AutoBanter

AutoBanter (http://www.autobanter.com/index.php)
-   VW water cooled (http://www.autobanter.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18)
-   -   Report: UAW hopeful it can unionize VW's Chattanooga plant (http://www.autobanter.com/showthread.php?t=370278)

Sean[_1_] September 3rd 11 09:24 PM
Report: UAW hopeful it can unionize VW's Chattanooga plant
 
On 2011-07-08, > wrote:
> The United Auto Workers has been trying for the past 30 years to unionize plants operated by foreign automakers in the South, but to date, there has been absolutely zero success. There are many reasons the UAW has consistently failed over time, including allegations of intimidation and fear tactics from transplant management. Some foreign automakers won't even hire former union employees for fear that the new hire could help organize the facility. And then there is the fact that unions aren't ne...

Hmmm... If workers for a particular place want to unionize of their own accord then fine. That should be their right. But I object to a union coming to an employer in a deliberate attempt to expand their footprint just for their own sake. Any union that starts acting more in the interest of self-preservation than the benefit of its members has become just as corrupt as the corporations it was created to keep in check.

In addition to believing that any worker should be allowed to join a union without penalty, no one should be forced to join a union in order to get a particular job. There's nothing inherently wrong with a mixed shop despite what unions would have you believe.

....Sean.

DogDiesel January 23rd 12 08:34 AM
Report: UAW hopeful it can unionize VW's Chattanooga plant
 

"Sean" > wrote in message
...
> On 2011-07-08, >
> wrote:
>> The United Auto Workers has been trying for the past 30 years to unionize
>> plants operated by foreign automakers in the South, but to date, there
>> has been absolutely zero success. There are many reasons the UAW has
>> consistently failed over time, including allegations of intimidation and
>> fear tactics from transplant management. Some foreign automakers won't
>> even hire former union employees for fear that the new hire could help
>> organize the facility. And then there is the fact that unions aren't
>> ne...
>
> Hmmm... If workers for a particular place want to unionize of their own
> accord then fine. That should be their right. But I object to a union
> coming to an employer in a deliberate attempt to expand their footprint
> just for their own sake. Any union that starts acting more in the interest
> of self-preservation than the benefit of its members has become just as
> corrupt as the corporations it was created to keep in check.
>
> In addition to believing that any worker should be allowed to join a union
> without penalty, no one should be forced to join a union in order to get a
> particular job. There's nothing inherently wrong with a mixed shop despite
> what unions would have you believe.
>
> ...Sean.

So you're ok with letting the non union member being harassed by management
without representation. Or being forced to do unsafe work union members
don't have too. Then fired. As soon as something goes wrong the non union
members cry for union representation.

Yup, yup, yup. you're as silly as your post.



Simon Finnigan January 30th 12 09:48 PM
Report: UAW hopeful it can unionize VW's Chattanooga plant
 
"DogDiesel" > wrote:
> "Sean" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2011-07-08, >
>> wrote:
>>> The United Auto Workers has been trying for the past 30 years to unionize
>>> plants operated by foreign automakers in the South, but to date, there
>>> has been absolutely zero success. There are many reasons the UAW has
>>> consistently failed over time, including allegations of intimidation and
>>> fear tactics from transplant management. Some foreign automakers won't
>>> even hire former union employees for fear that the new hire could help
>>> organize the facility. And then there is the fact that unions aren't
>>> ne...
>>
>> Hmmm... If workers for a particular place want to unionize of their own
>> accord then fine. That should be their right. But I object to a union
>> coming to an employer in a deliberate attempt to expand their footprint
>> just for their own sake. Any union that starts acting more in the interest
>> of self-preservation than the benefit of its members has become just as
>> corrupt as the corporations it was created to keep in check.
>>
>> In addition to believing that any worker should be allowed to join a union
>> without penalty, no one should be forced to join a union in order to get a
>> particular job. There's nothing inherently wrong with a mixed shop despite
>> what unions would have you believe.
>>
>> ...Sean.
>
> So you're ok with letting the non union member being harassed by management
> without representation. Or being forced to do unsafe work union members
> don't have too. Then fired. As soon as something goes wrong the non union
> members cry for union representation.

When the alternative is nobody being protected by union membership yes.
Being forced to join a union is evil, just as bad as the evil things that
some managers do.


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:05 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
AutoBanter.com