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> as a follow up, please Dan-d-man tell me why a helium balloon will burst
> when you release it into the "sky"?....the pressure inside the balloon
> decreases the higher it goes..but it still ruptures

True. The pressure inside the balloon lowers as the atmospheric pressures
lowers, and the ballooon ruptures because it expands beyond its elasticity
(elasticity is lost mostly due to stretching but also in part by the low
temperature of the environment), but what's the point of the observation?
How does it relate to Dan's position?

"Hal" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> GEEEEZ!!! You're running at 35psi all the way around??? Are you
>> suicidal???
>
> No Dan, I am not suicidal. ;) The sidewall on my tires says maximum
> inflation 44psi.

:) That's the rating of the tire, not the tire/car combination. Those tires
fit many different vehicles. A heavier vehicle require up to 44psi, but
yours doesn't.

On Wed, 4 May 2005 13:29:16 -0500, "Lorem Ipsum" >
wrote:

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>> as a follow up, please Dan-d-man tell me why a helium balloon will burst
>> when you release it into the "sky"?....the pressure inside the balloon
>> decreases the higher it goes..but it still ruptures
>
>True. The pressure inside the balloon lowers as the atmospheric pressures
>lowers, and the ballooon ruptures because it expands beyond its elasticity
>(elasticity is lost mostly due to stretching but also in part by the low
>temperature of the environment), but what's the point of the observation?
>How does it relate to Dan's position?

I think at this point he was trying to see exactly how far Dan had his
head up his ass. I could be wrong. Have been before.

"Stupid people are funny." - me

On Wed, 4 May 2005 06:37:05 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"
> wrote:

>
>"Jan Andersson" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> Kuhmo is the largest (by surface area) city in Finland :)
>>
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>> Lynn Martin wrote:
>> >
>> > Nobody even noticed that I spelled Kumho wrong! hee hee
>> >
>> > I am glad I take Zoloft. We all should after this thread! haha!
>> >
>
>All this time, I thought Kuhmo was a sushi.
>I have four of those Kuhmo's and a beer please.
>-tom
>

I'll have one of those Kuhmos and 4 beers, please. :-)

"Stupid people are funny." - me

"Lorem Ipsum" > wrote in message
...
> [... attributes lost ...]
> > as a follow up, please Dan-d-man tell me why a helium balloon will burst
> > when you release it into the "sky"?....the pressure inside the balloon
> > decreases the higher it goes..but it still ruptures
>
> True. The pressure inside the balloon lowers as the atmospheric pressures
> lowers, and the ballooon ruptures because it expands beyond its elasticity
> (elasticity is lost mostly due to stretching but also in part by the low
> temperature of the environment), but what's the point of the observation?
> How does it relate to Dan's position?
>
>
>

it relates simply because dan is proposing that stepping on a balloon will
in essence *raise* the pressure till it pops...it won't...the pressure
inside is just displaced from under the foot and the balloon stretches until
the surface ruptures.... what he thought it had to do with tires, I don't
know either, but he was kinda swinging at something, so I posed the question
to show that the balloon will still pop when the reverse of what he believes
happens...that's all...

"Shag" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 May 2005 13:29:16 -0500, "Lorem Ipsum" >
> wrote:
>
> >[... attributes lost ...]
> >> as a follow up, please Dan-d-man tell me why a helium balloon will
burst
> >> when you release it into the "sky"?....the pressure inside the balloon
> >> decreases the higher it goes..but it still ruptures
> >
> >True. The pressure inside the balloon lowers as the atmospheric pressures
> >lowers, and the ballooon ruptures because it expands beyond its
elasticity
> >(elasticity is lost mostly due to stretching but also in part by the low
> >temperature of the environment), but what's the point of the observation?
> >How does it relate to Dan's position?
>
> I think at this point he was trying to see exactly how far Dan had his
> head up his ass. I could be wrong. Have been before.
>
> "Stupid people are funny." - me

you are not wrong this time shag....<G>

thanks to Scott for this picture of dan:
http://www.angelfire.com/retro/ssterile/SINGLETON.html

That higher air pressure might make your ride a bit stiff. The tires
are part of the suspension on your little guy.

ogg



Lynn Martin wrote:
> I just got some new Kuhmo Tires, 165/80/15, (great deals for $26 a
piece on
> the net!) for my 1974 Superbeetle.
>
> Anyhow, I am going to get them mounted/etc. The "recommended tire
> pressure" listed on the glove compartment door says Front - 18 psi
and Rear
> 29 psi. This seems too low to me, especially in the front tires.
>
> Just wondering what pressures everyone else is running in a stock
size tire?
>
> Lynn
> 1974 Super

"Joey Tribiani" > wrote in message
news:gibee.1396$sy6.247@lakeread04...

>> True. The pressure inside the balloon lowers as the atmospheric pressures
>> lowers, and the ballooon ruptures because it expands beyond its
>> elasticity
>> (elasticity is lost mostly due to stretching but also in part by the low
>> temperature of the environment), but what's the point of the observation?
>> How does it relate to Dan's position?

> it relates simply because dan is proposing that stepping on a balloon will
> in essence *raise* the pressure till it pops...it won't...the pressure
> inside is just displaced from under the foot and the balloon stretches
> until
> the surface ruptures

He is right. If stepping on the balloon causes the skin to exceed its
capacity, then it behaves just as it would if it were at a high altitude,
and for the same reasons.

On Wed, 4 May 2005 19:51:59 -0500, "Lorem Ipsum" >
wrote:

>
>"Joey Tribiani" > wrote in message
>news:gibee.1396$sy6.247@lakeread04...
>
>>> True. The pressure inside the balloon lowers as the atmospheric pressures
>>> lowers, and the ballooon ruptures because it expands beyond its
>>> elasticity
>>> (elasticity is lost mostly due to stretching but also in part by the low
>>> temperature of the environment), but what's the point of the observation?
>>> How does it relate to Dan's position?
>
>> it relates simply because dan is proposing that stepping on a balloon will
>> in essence *raise* the pressure till it pops...it won't...the pressure
>> inside is just displaced from under the foot and the balloon stretches
>> until
>> the surface ruptures
>
>He is right. If stepping on the balloon causes the skin to exceed its
>capacity, then it behaves just as it would if it were at a high altitude,
>and for the same reasons.
>

Who are you, his boyfriend? (I typed up a much less flame-worthy
response to your post until I realized I didn't know why I bothered.)

"Stupid people are funny." - me

"Lorem Ipsum" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Joey Tribiani" > wrote in message
> news:gibee.1396$sy6.247@lakeread04...
>
> He is right. If stepping on the balloon causes the skin to exceed its
> capacity, then it behaves just as it would if it were at a high altitude,
> and for the same reasons.
>
>

you are semi-correct...which is the whole point...can you follow me?
stepping on the balloon puts MORE force on the outside(pressure)....high
altitude puts less....can't see how that would be it failing for "the same
reasons"....the "opposite" I could see, but you are wrong on "the same"...if
you need a more thorough explanation of this, and the post you replied to,
since its * APPARENT * you don't follow it, feel free to ask someone that
actually feels like educating people as I do not....