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In article >,
alan_m > wrote:
> On 19/02/2018 23:36, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> > In article >,
> > James Wilkinson Sword > wrote:
> >>> Nissan UK says the US is its second largest export market for UK
> >>> assembled models. After the EU.
> >
> >> the EU will soon be gone, and good ****ing riddance.
> >
> > And given the EU is Nissan UK's largest export market they will likely
> > soon be gone too. Along with lots of others - especially in financial
> > services.
> >

> Project fear continues!

In the lack of any firm plans for the way forward after Brexit, just what
do you expect?

We have had May promising Nissan they won't suffer financially after we
leave. So taxpayer's money to subsidise car production? Seems only
yesterday Boeing were objecting to what they thought was that.

> These days a car factory in only in existence as long as the model it
> was built for is still in production. Manufactures wanting to build a
> new model prefer a green field sites in countries that gives them
> maximum grants and the labour cost is cheapest. In the case of western
> Europe its likely to be the former soviet aligned countries that will
> get future car manufacturing/assembly jobs.

Very worrying that not only do those countries apparently have human
beings far more suited to pick fruit etc than the English, but also have
better skills for car building too?
Perhaps we should simply give up now...

> Alternatively, Europe will be importing many of the cars from China or
> India.

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On 20/02/2018 08:33, ultred ragnusen wrote:

> Luckily it's easy to dismount, remount, and statically balance (and
> dynamically test) a tire yourself,

You are joking! I've seen on many occasions how much effort goes into
removing/replacing a tyre from/on the rim using the specialised tyre
fitting equipment. There is also the 15/30 minutes for blowing up a
completely flat tyre with one of those little 12V compressors that fit
into the cigarette lighter socket.

I can just see all those inexperienced people breaking/chipping their
alloy rims using breaker bars.

For the money I pay to get a puncture repaired (and dynamically
balanced) by a tyre shop it's not worth the effort to even consider
Do-it-Yourself. Without researching prices, I'll bet here in the UK the
cost of obtaining one or two proper tyre repair patches would actually
be close to the cost of using someone who does it for a living.




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On 20/02/2018 11:03, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> Very worrying that not only do those countries apparently have human
> beings far more suited to pick fruit etc than the English, but also have
> better skills for car building too?
> Perhaps we should simply give up now...

Henry Ford established over 100 years ago that you don't have to have
much skill to assemble a car. To be competitive it just needs to be
cheaper either by having cheaper labour cost and/or offsetting a lot of
the spend on new factories and equipment with generous "regional grants"
that will be given to deprived eastern EU countries (and/or to bale out
many of the financial basket cases in southern Europe).

If you don't think car assembly jobs are not going to migrate ask
someone from the USA what happened to Detroit.

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On 20/02/2018 04:58, ultred ragnusen wrote:
> wrote:
>
>>> Take a look at that biker's concept of a "pocket knife" at 53 seconds!
>>> https://youtu.be/M5_nK8V-nU0?t=53
>>
>> Compared to what's in my pocket at the moment...
>> http://www.coldsteel.com/recon-1-tan...0-50-edge.html
>>
>> After using it for a few years, I'm not that crazy about the tanto
>> style, but it is good for prying out nails.
>
> Jesus. That's battle gear for heaven's sake!
>
> This is what I consider to be a typical pocket knife.
> https://media.midwayusa.com/producti...365/365933.jpg
>

Carry the former in the UK and you would probably be arrested if stopped
or if you used it in public.


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ultred ragnusen explained on 18/02/2018 :
> And I can visualize how to mechanically clamp a bolt in a vise to hang the
> torque wrench on - but then - how do you calibrate the two types?

I can imagine, when building them that they simply check the
calibration on a pass / fail basis. The only way I can think to adjust
them is via shims under the spring, to increase the tension.

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ultred ragnusen wrote on 18/02/2018 :
> I think not - but I've heard people say use the shortest extension bar you
> can get your hands on. I don't understand why. It should be the same torque
> if I used a 16-inch extension bar, right?

I place a hand on the head of the wrench to support it, whilst pressing
down for the click, so the extension should make little difference.

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In article >,
alan_m > wrote:
> On 20/02/2018 11:03, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> > Very worrying that not only do those countries apparently have human
> > beings far more suited to pick fruit etc than the English, but also have
> > better skills for car building too?
> > Perhaps we should simply give up now...

> Henry Ford established over 100 years ago that you don't have to have
> much skill to assemble a car. To be competitive it just needs to be
> cheaper either by having cheaper labour cost and/or offsetting a lot of
> the spend on new factories and equipment with generous "regional grants"
> that will be given to deprived eastern EU countries (and/or to bale out
> many of the financial basket cases in southern Europe).

> If you don't think car assembly jobs are not going to migrate ask
> someone from the USA what happened to Detroit.

And Trump apparently has conned many into voting for him by saying he'll
get those jobs back. In exactly the same way as Brexiteers have conned the
poor in the UK into thinking the EU is the cause of their woes.

However, comparing car production in the heyday of Detroit and now is a
nonsense. Globilasation has changed the way components are sourced.

But then I do realise most Brexiteers base their hopes on when Britain
ruled the waves. Rather than the world today.

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On 20/02/2018 14:00, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

>And Trump apparently has conned many into voting for him by saying
>he'll get those jobs back.

Or was it the population just got fed up with the corrupt political
class and wanted something different, good or bad?

> But then I do realise most Brexiteers base their hopes on when Britain
> ruled the waves. Rather than the world today.
>

You have no idea why most people who voted to leave did so.

I predict that staying in the EU or leaving will have exactly the same
result with regards car assembly - it will migrate towards the poorer
Eastern European countries in much the same way as many other industries
have disappeared from the UK during the 40 years of EEC/EU membership.

Ask French and German car workers why their jobs are at risk, and both
these countries are not leaving the EU.

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On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 2:12:25 AM UTC-10, alan_m wrote:
>
> Henry Ford established over 100 years ago that you don't have to have
> much skill to assemble a car. To be competitive it just needs to be
> cheaper either by having cheaper labour cost and/or offsetting a lot of
> the spend on new factories and equipment with generous "regional grants"
> that will be given to deprived eastern EU countries (and/or to bale out
> many of the financial basket cases in southern Europe).
>
> If you don't think car assembly jobs are not going to migrate ask
> someone from the USA what happened to Detroit.
>
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My guess is that eventually, the factory jobs will come back to these United States. That's going to be good and bad news. Who the heck aspires to have a factory job? That's like wanting to grow up to be a coal miner.

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In article >,
alan_m > wrote:
> I predict that staying in the EU or leaving will have exactly the same
> result with regards car assembly - it will migrate towards the poorer
> Eastern European countries in much the same way as many other industries
> have disappeared from the UK during the 40 years of EEC/EU membership.

> Ask French and German car workers why their jobs are at risk, and both
> these countries are not leaving the EU.

There is more to making cars - especially above budget level - than just
finding the cheapest place to do it.

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