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ChrisKlinger November 20th 12 03:53 AM

Tig or Mig
 
What is best for replacing body panles?

ChrisKlinger

Gary Tateosian November 20th 12 11:27 PM

Tig or Mig
 
On Monday, November 19, 2012 9:53:25 PM UTC-6, ChrisKlinger wrote:
> What is best for replacing body panles?
>
>
>
> ChrisKlinger


Whichever you are most skilled at using. John Kelly does amazing work with a torch.

TIG would likely be better between the two with equally competent operators.

MIG is easier to use.

ChrisKlinger November 21st 12 01:11 AM

Tig or Mig
 
Gary Tateosian wrote:

> On Monday, November 19, 2012 9:53:25 PM UTC-6, ChrisKlinger

wrote:
>> What is best for replacing body panles?
>>
>>
>>
>> ChrisKlinger

>
> Whichever you are most skilled at using. John Kelly does

amazing work with
> a torch.
>
> TIG would likely be better between the two with equally

competent
> operators.
>
> MIG is easier to use.


thanks Gareth

KWW[_2_] November 21st 12 10:50 AM

Tig or Mig
 
On 11/20/2012 7:11 PM, ChrisKlinger wrote:
> Gary Tateosian wrote:
>
>> On Monday, November 19, 2012 9:53:25 PM UTC-6, ChrisKlinger

> wrote:
>>> What is best for replacing body panles?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ChrisKlinger

>>
>> Whichever you are most skilled at using. John Kelly does

> amazing work with
>> a torch.
>>
>> TIG would likely be better between the two with equally

> competent
>> operators.
>>
>> MIG is easier to use.

>
> thanks Gareth
>

"Fig" would be great though.... just sit back and eat a Fig cookie ...
hiring the work to be done. ;)
KWW

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Jan Andersson[_4_] November 26th 12 03:51 AM

Tig or Mig
 
On 11/20/2012 8:11 PM, ChrisKlinger wrote:
> Gary Tateosian wrote:
>
>> On Monday, November 19, 2012 9:53:25 PM UTC-6, ChrisKlinger

> wrote:
>>> What is best for replacing body panles?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ChrisKlinger

>>
>> Whichever you are most skilled at using. John Kelly does

> amazing work with
>> a torch.
>>
>> TIG would likely be better between the two with equally

> competent
>> operators.
>>
>> MIG is easier to use.

>
> thanks Gareth


Since you have to ask.... I'd say MIG ;)

I would say definitely MIG, it's cheaper and easier to learn, I think.
Then again I haven't owned a TIG yet, I see it as the tool of choice for
aluminum work, where MIG would fall flat on it's face even with a spool
gun, in comparison.

Jan

Olli Lammi[_2_] November 26th 12 07:22 PM

Tig or Mig
 
On 26.11.2012 05:51, Jan Andersson wrote:
>>>>ChrisKlinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What is best for replacing body panles?

>
> Since you have to ask.... I'd say MIG ;)
>
> I would say definitely MIG, it's cheaper and easier to learn, I think.
> Then again I haven't owned a TIG yet, I see it as the tool of choice for
> aluminum work, where MIG would fall flat on it's face even with a spool
> gun, in comparison.


This said, having never welded any body panels using any method. My
welding experience is mostly welding 0.5 mm thick square pipes together
to form different kinds of household objects (to mount car tyres to
wall, store fire wood etc.). I have welded using both MIG and TIG.
Some of this might also sound obvious, but decided to write it anyway.

I would go MIG for that kind of work. A lot easier to tag pieces to
their assumed places first. A lot easier to weld in hard to access
places where you necessarily cannot see everything. Lot easier to weld
in short lenghts here and there to let things cool down and minimize
bending the objects.

You can make nicer weld with TIG and for example for pipe welding TIG
should be the tool. MIG weld usually needs more grinding and polishing,
if the object needs to look nice.

MIG is not handy, if you have different materials to weld. With TIG you
basically just change the filler material stick and you can weld
different stuff (aluminium, steel, stainless steel, ...). With MIG you
have to pull out the old wire, feed ahother reel and if I recall right,
the gas is also different for example for steel and stainless steel.
With TIG you can also weld without filler, just melt the two objects
together.

Someone with more skill with TIG might say, all can be done using it,
but in my experience, I would start with MIG.

MIG or TIG, I think most important is to practise, have a test piece of
similar material and thickness. Test and adjust the current and wire
feed (MIG) before starting the actual work.

My thoughts of it.

---
Olli

ChrisKlinger November 28th 12 12:44 AM

Tig or Mig
 
Olli Lammi wrote:

> On 26.11.2012 05:51, Jan Andersson wrote:
>>>>>ChrisKlinger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What is best for replacing body panles?

>>
>> Since you have to ask.... I'd say MIG ;)
>>
>> I would say definitely MIG, it's cheaper and easier to

learn, I think.
>> Then again I haven't owned a TIG yet, I see it as the tool

of choice for
>> aluminum work, where MIG would fall flat on it's face even

with a spool
>> gun, in comparison.

>
> This said, having never welded any body panels using any

method. My
> welding experience is mostly welding 0.5 mm thick square

pipes together
> to form different kinds of household objects (to mount car

tyres to
> wall, store fire wood etc.). I have welded using both MIG

and TIG.
> Some of this might also sound obvious, but decided to write

it anyway.
>
> I would go MIG for that kind of work. A lot easier to tag

pieces to
> their assumed places first. A lot easier to weld in hard to

access
> places where you necessarily cannot see everything. Lot

easier to weld
> in short lenghts here and there to let things cool down and

minimize
> bending the objects.
>
> You can make nicer weld with TIG and for example for pipe

welding TIG
> should be the tool. MIG weld usually needs more grinding and

polishing,
> if the object needs to look nice.
>
> MIG is not handy, if you have different materials to weld.

With TIG you
> basically just change the filler material stick and you can

weld
> different stuff (aluminium, steel, stainless steel, ...).

With MIG you
> have to pull out the old wire, feed ahother reel and if I

recall right,
> the gas is also different for example for steel and

stainless steel.
> With TIG you can also weld without filler, just melt the two

objects
> together.
>
> Someone with more skill with TIG might say, all can be done

using it,
> but in my experience, I would start with MIG.
>
> MIG or TIG, I think most important is to practise, have a

test piece of
> similar material and thickness. Test and adjust the current

and wire
> feed (MIG) before starting the actual work.
>
> My thoughts of it.
>
> ---
> Olli


Thank you all. I had many doubts after reading in different
locations, but your tips have pointed me firmly to mig.

I used to do great with oxy-acetylene and a henrob low-
pressure torch, but, even with care, some warping was
unavoidable.

Chris

tricky[_2_] December 30th 12 10:24 AM

Tig or Mig
 


On 28/11/12 00:44, ChrisKlinger wrote:
> Olli Lammi wrote:
>
>> On 26.11.2012 05:51, Jan Andersson wrote:
>>>>>> ChrisKlinger wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is best for replacing body panles?
>>>
>>> Since you have to ask.... I'd say MIG ;)
>>>
>>> I would say definitely MIG, it's cheaper and easier to

> learn, I think.
>>> Then again I haven't owned a TIG yet, I see it as the tool

> of choice for
>>> aluminum work, where MIG would fall flat on it's face even

> with a spool
>>> gun, in comparison.

>>
>> This said, having never welded any body panels using any

> method. My
>> welding experience is mostly welding 0.5 mm thick square

> pipes together
>> to form different kinds of household objects (to mount car

> tyres to
>> wall, store fire wood etc.). I have welded using both MIG

> and TIG.
>> Some of this might also sound obvious, but decided to write

> it anyway.
>>
>> I would go MIG for that kind of work. A lot easier to tag

> pieces to
>> their assumed places first. A lot easier to weld in hard to

> access
>> places where you necessarily cannot see everything. Lot

> easier to weld
>> in short lenghts here and there to let things cool down and

> minimize
>> bending the objects.
>>
>> You can make nicer weld with TIG and for example for pipe

> welding TIG
>> should be the tool. MIG weld usually needs more grinding and

> polishing,
>> if the object needs to look nice.
>>
>> MIG is not handy, if you have different materials to weld.

> With TIG you
>> basically just change the filler material stick and you can

> weld
>> different stuff (aluminium, steel, stainless steel, ...).

> With MIG you
>> have to pull out the old wire, feed ahother reel and if I

> recall right,
>> the gas is also different for example for steel and

> stainless steel.
>> With TIG you can also weld without filler, just melt the two

> objects
>> together.
>>
>> Someone with more skill with TIG might say, all can be done

> using it,
>> but in my experience, I would start with MIG.
>>
>> MIG or TIG, I think most important is to practise, have a

> test piece of
>> similar material and thickness. Test and adjust the current

> and wire
>> feed (MIG) before starting the actual work.
>>
>> My thoughts of it.
>>
>> ---
>> Olli

>
> Thank you all. I had many doubts after reading in different
> locations, but your tips have pointed me firmly to mig.
>
> I used to do great with oxy-acetylene and a henrob low-
> pressure torch, but, even with care, some warping was
> unavoidable.
>
> Chris


I bought a TIG set up to learn . I already use MIG.
I was learning quite well untill I ran out of gas (argon) and then found
out how much it is to replace :0
So , I use MIG all the time again now. As Olli said, TIG welds can be
real pretty !, but MIG needs dressing afterwards.

Also, something no one has mentioned, you can use MIG one handed, to get
in those hard to reach places. TIG, as in torch, you need two hands, and
the extra access for both.

Rich


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