On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:58:37 -0500,
(Brent P) wrote:

>In article >, Spike wrote:
>> I still do not see where, with evidence that many users of the
>> Autobahn violate lane discipline every day (and that's according to
>> the Autobahn enforcement and management divisions),
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>I didn't argue they violated it, I argue they follow it far more than US
>drivers. And they do so without much in the way of enforcement. There is
>very sparse enforcement on the autobahn, and when there is, they go after
>things like tailgating, as that is the major problem there last I heard.
>If we only had it so good.

That is not accurate according to the Management and Enforcement
agencies of the Autobahn. There are cameras for monitoring traffic,
and enforcement uses a wide range of specialized, marked and unmarked,
car and motorcycle patrols, as well as roadside monitoring. They go
after violators of a wide range of traffic laws, including,
lighting,signaling, speed, adverse conditions operation, lane
changing at speed, proper lane maintenance, etc etc etc. I get the
impression you have not personally driven the Autobahn, nor studied
the management of it's use. If what you say is contrary to what the
management and enforcement operations of the Autobahn, and the German
government say, how can anything you say be taken seriously?

Law enforcement is there to enforce the law... and that includes
traffic laws. Police officers don't make the laws. You put down the
enforcement model, as if the cops make the rules. Talk to the
politicians. There are a lot of changes we would like to see, but we
have to live with what the system hands us. You act as if our sole
motivation is revenue. It's clear you don't personally know many, if
any at all, police officers. You clearly have no idea what they are
about, or what they have to contend with from people who seem to think
they are above the law because they know better than the enforcement
officer, and everyone else.
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>Also driver training in the USA is practically non-existant. People just
>sort of decide on their own personal set of rules. This includes cops.

I do agree that driver training can be different in scope from one
area to another. You see that elsewhere in the world. For example, in
Belgium you were required to have a driver's license if you bought a
new car, but if you bought a used car it was not required. In some
countries, a license is unheard of for the masses. I know what my son
went through to get his license. The number of months of restricted
driving (things like not permitted to have other teens in the car is
the law for new young drivers), etc. I'm getting the feeling you have
selected a single region where you have experienced your peeves, and
applied that to the entire country. People are different from one zone
to another. Just as rural people are less apt to lock their homes than
people living in major metro areas. I've lived in MA, NY, ME, IN, FL,
MN, CA, WA, AK, rural and metro areas, and traveled through most of
the rest of the country. My experience is fairly extensive.


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