Hello Everyone --

Just thought I'd let you know that my SES light came on again just
152 miles after they fixed the problem according to Saturn Engineering
instructions. They kept the car for three days to do it!!!!!!

One thing is very clear to me: Saturn dealer doesn't know what to do
and gets instructions from Saturn Engineering. Second. Saturn
Engineering has never been to engineering school. Three Saturn
management should learn about how to keep a customer loyal. Their
regional customer service gives me the same spiel everytime I call
them: Sorry Mr. R. We intend to conract the dealer and work with him
on your problem . I want results -- not fiction. I sent a letter to
their president, yesterday. Probably will get no response!!!!

Hey Saturn. How about getting with it. The car is obviously a lemon.
You put out a product that will be illegal in New York State come
April 1 of next year. How do you meet EPA STANDARDS when you design
and manufacture and sell a car that you can't repair. Is it your
political connections?

I for one will never buy another Saturn and GM is out of my vocabulary
as well. Maybe Saturn should design pedal cars for tots. Come to
think of it, they would probably fail as well.

George

Following is a long saga of dealing with P0442 code on a 2000-Saturn
SL2:

Saturn has yet to fix this vehicle with reliability or credibility;
the manufacturer doesn't seem to have the answer, either. Problem
started 2 days after 3-year warranty was up: Last visit, car was in
shop for three days. Car has never been to an outside mechanic.
Notice repeat part replacements on this low mileage car. Come
4/1/2005 this car will not pass inspection in New York State. In
fairness, Saturn has not charged me, but I can't even get another
dealer to take this car as a trade-in.

Any suggestions on what Saturn mechanics failed to do? They claim car
passes pressure tests and smoke tests -- that the car is mechanically
sound -- that there is no leak.

George


Date Miles Part and Part serial number and job

>04-Nov-2002 10622 PCM Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor 21025106 Replace
>04-Nov-2002 10622 Connector 12117087 Repair ALDL/DLC/SES
>02-Jun-2003 12875 State Inspecrion
>10-Jun-2003 12996 None No Repair
>17-Jun-2003 13113 Seal-F/PM 21008100 Replace Fuel Pump Seal
>07-Jul-2003 13339 Solenoid, Evap. Emiss. Cannister Purge 10293954 Replaced Valve ASM
>07-Jul-2003 13339 Solenoid, Evap. Emiss. Cannister Purge 21007370 Replaced Tank ASM
>23-Jul-2003 13509 Fuel Vapor Pressure Sensor 16238399 Replaced
>11-Aug-2003 13773 Solenoid, Evap. Rmiss. Cannister Purge 21008461 Replaced Solenoid
>16-Sep-2003 14242 PCM Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor 21025106 Replace
>21-Oct-2003 14605 Tank ASM 21007370 Replace Fuel Tank
>21-Oct-2003 14605 Cannister 17098073 Replace Fuel Vapor Cannister
>21-Oct-2003 14605 Valve ASM 10293954 Replace Vaklve for Evap. Emiss Cannister Vent Solenoid
>21-Oct-2003 14605 Pump Kit 21015152 Replace in tank Fuel Pump
>06-Jan-2004 15467 Fuel Tank Filler Neck 21008388 Replace fuel tank filler neck
>04-May-2004 16672 Engine Control Module (PCM/ECM) 21025128 Replace Computer
>14-Jun-2004 17217 PCM Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor 21025106 Replace
>14-Jun-2004 17217 Fuel Tank Cap 22660002 Replace
>27-Jul-2004 17567 Fuel Vapor Pressure Sensor 16238399 Replace