Thread: The last straw
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Old July 19th 15, 06:33 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Budd Cochran[_2_]
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Default The last straw


"J. Clarke" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On 7/18/2015 4:57 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> > In article >,

>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> Funny you should ask ... I are one (small engines to heavy equipment,
>> >> including diesels), but I've not been able to keep up with these
>> >> computerized injection systems due to working other jobs and because I
>> >> didn't go to one of the diploma mills like WyoTech (my middle son went
>> >> to Wyo
>> >> @ Laramie and was constantly calling home to learn how to do things
>> >> his
>> >> "instructor" couldn't do)... and I am 68 years old, you see.
>> >>
>> >> Oh, and being on fixed income I can't afford the $100+ /hour
>> >> diagnostic fees
>> >> IF they have the right scanner (currently $1500+ US to buy if they can
>> >> find
>> >> one) for an OBD1 (no retained codes) system.
>> >>
>> >> The symptoms, if it a carbureted engine, are like gasoline
>> >> contaminated with
>> >> water but the first thing I did was put in two cans of HEET (alcohol)
>> >> at a
>> >> fill up from a trusted station (where I've got my gas for years) so
>> >> water
>> >> isn't likely and a settling test (a small amount pumped into a glass
>> >> container by the fuel pump and set aside for an hour) shows no water
>> >> or
>> >> foriegn material.
>> >
>> > Have you managed to find out what isn't working, specifically?
>> >

>> Well, obviously not if I'm wanting to sell it and if you had read my
>> posts more carefully you wouldn't have asked because it would also have
>> been obvious that I would have fixed/replaced the defective item.
>>
>> It's a bit hard to be in two places at once, ya know.

>
> So how _ever_ did you get by before you had a computer to tell you scan
> codes?


What computer to scan codes??? t's a OBD1 system and DOES NOT retain codes.

If you truly knew the old Renix F.I. system you would know that as well as I
do and as mentioned the correct test ing equipment is very rare and
expensive today.
>
>> For example: I can't be watching the tach for an RPM drop while also
>> reading a voltmeter connected to the ignition module (my wife is not
>> mechanically inclined along with being on O2 24/7 and I do not have any
>> available help in my neighborhood).
>>
>> Or reading a fuel pressure tester (as if I have one!) when checking RPM
>> drops on the tach.
>>
>> Get the idea????

>
> Yeah, the idea I get is that you seem awful short of tools for someone
> claiming to be a trained mechanic. Harbor Freight will sell you a
> multimeter with tach for 35 bucks and a fuel pressure tester for 20
> bucks. I find it strange that an experienced mechanic would shotgun the
> problem to the tune of 1500 bucks without spending a hundred or so on
> the tools to do a proper diagnosis.


And I find it strange that you cannot seem to grasp the concept that I just
might not, on my limited and fixed income, be able to afford to keep the
$7000 dollars (1960's value ... about $75000 in today's dollars) worth of
tools I had at one time (had to hock most in the divorce in '73) nor run
down to the nearest Harbor Freight (well known for low quality tools, btw)
40 miles away in my XJ that isn't dependable enough to trust outside of the
city limits and neither H.F. nor Wally World carries the Renix system test
equipment for $19.95 (special today only!!!).
>
>> Now. I would appreciate it if everyone would engage brain before asking
>> more questions of this type.
>>
>> You want more info? Read previous postings about the 89 XtremeJunker by
>> me ... it's all there.

>
> Where? Google can't find it either in the main search or in Groups.


What newsreader are you using?? I use either Outlook Express on the XP PC
(this one) or Mozilla Thunderbird on my Win7 PC and all I have to do is
download more than, let's say, 300 articles to get the old threads.

But I belive the pertinent articles are no more than 3-4 months back.

>> As for what is not working "specifically", how about "the whole
>> dangblasted Renix system"?

>
> So which is it, is it an OBD1 system or is it a Renix system? And when
> you say "the whole blasted system" do you mean that there is no signal
> on _any_ of the engine control wiring?


Renix used the "no retained codes" OBD1 type programming.

And I mean the whole darn system sucks from the first computerized engine
management systms to todays crap.

But, based on the responses you've given me, I'd say you are probably an
advocated for modern engine control systems and consider anything prior to
be not worth consideration even though it was far more "user friendly" and
dependable.


--
Budd

Tolerance cannot be legislated, demanded
or coerced.

It must be given freely and unconditionally.



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