Nancy Adams > wrote in
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> On Oct 1, 7:25*pm, chuckcar > wrote:
>> Tom Adams > wrote
>> innews:6e7a9ce3-6811-42a0-b48c-b698
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>> > On Sep 30, 4:25*pm, chuckcar > wrote:
>> >> Tom Adams > wrote
>> >> innews:60ed4c25-2a29-467a-b97b-1c29
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>> >> > ESC is considered to be the greatest advance in safety since the
>> >> > seatbelt. *It will be required on all 2012 cars, but it's still
>> >> > optional or not available on some 2010 and 2011 models:
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>> >> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro...ntrol#Effectiv
>> >> >ene ss
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>> >> Perfect for people that have no idea how to drive a car. Required
>> >> for badly designed cars like this one:
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>> >>http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-.../28660_1015018
>> >>7.
>> > In general, cars are among the worst designed consumer products,
>> > close to the worst of all.
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>> > Your has a 1 in 500 chance of killing you. *Add up all the cars you
>> > will own and that gets
>> > you to 1 in 85. *And that does not even include all the non-fatal
>> > injuries.
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>> > What's worse than that? Cigarettes are the only one I can think of.
>>
>> > BTW: If you had the slightest idea of what you are talking about,
>> > you would have linked to a picture of some SUV, not a sedan.
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>> If you did you wouldn't use superlatives in decribing it.
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>> Lighten up FCS. You don't recognise anyone in that shot?
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>> You don't seem to have much consistancy in what you say either:
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>> ps.
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>> Look it's a crutch. What would remove it is tougher driving tests and
>> retests. Nothing else other than a massive increase in police
>> employment is going to work. In Finland for example, you have to be
>> able to do a powerslide to get a licence. ABS is necessary in
>> emergencies.
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> What a joke, you are not aware that ABS didn't pan out. No evidence it
> ever saved a single life.
>
Then you've never read any newpapers. It happens daily. If you stop in a
shorter distance - assuming you're not some idiot that doesn't wear
seatbelts and fly out the windshield - it simply does.

> If you want to drive at the edge of oversteer and understeer, hit the
> off button.
>
When there *is* one. There isn't far more often than the reverse. And do
*don't* turn it off for such. Just the reverse. I assume you're talking
about Traction control here - the above appeared after my sig and no where
near any relevant paragraph of mine.

> Your bizarre opinions don;t change the facts: 1 person will die for
> every 1500 or so new motor vehicles sold without ESC between now and
> the start of the 2012 model year (when it's mandated).

You have an actual study to back this up?

I'll tell you what will give you even better stats: ban consumer SUV
purchases in cases where they're not actually needed. By SUV's I
mean: crossovers, minivans, what are *actually* called SUV's, vans and
trucks. All the above serve a purpose, but are rarely bought for such.

They're already declining in sales and there's a glut on the market. Has
been for a few years now.


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