On 28/01/2018 8:47 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 16:37:44 +1100, Xeno >
> wrote:
>
>> On 27/01/2018 1:47 PM, Mad Roger wrote:
>>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:13:56 -0800,
>>> Oren wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why is it you think the clutch pedal "feel" is not an aspect of the
>>>> adjustment? The throw out bearing needs to release from the clutch
>>>> plate in the bell housing. You can't adjust it by a ruler. You need
>>>> a little slop in the pedal so the plate is not always engaged at the
>>>> risk of burning the plate.
>>>>
>>>> ...at least back in the day. Two cents.
>>>
>>> It's not my vehicle, and the "feel" stinks no matter what position it's in.
>>
>> The feel doesn't stink just because *you* don't like it.
>>>
>>> What changes is that it engages early, or late, but not in a way that I
>>> like either way.
>>
>> It will either take up early or it will take up late. It cannot do both,
>> either one or the other. Clutches simply cannot work the way you are
>> imagining they do.
>>>
>>> So I can't adjust it by feel because there is no position that feels right
>>> to me.
>>
>> This is a situation where pedancy will stuff you up right royally.
>>>
>>> Therefore, I just want to adjust it by the book.
>>
>> Do you have the *book* handy? If not, you are lost.
>>
>> The method used to adjust a clutch will depend entirely on the mechanism
>> employed. There are 3 general possibilities in common use; hydraulic,
>> cable, mechanical linkage. Each of those will have variants and the
>> differences will make a difference to how and where it is adjusted.
>>
>> Best you get to it and RTFM.
>>>
>>> If only I knew what to measure as I think it's for a millimeter or two of
>>> 'slop' between the rounded end of the bolt and the master cylinder piston
>>> cup.
>>>
>>> But I don't feel that slop in any case.
>>
>> If you can't feel the play, it doesn't have any.
>>
>> If it is meant to have play, then fix it so it does.
>>
>>> And I don't know where to measure it either.
>>
>> For master cylinder clearance - At the pedal pushrod in most cases.
>> For slave cylinder clearance - at the slave cylinder in most cases.
>>>
>>> Hence the question.
>>>
> Better than 90% of vehicles with standard transmissions today have
> NO MANUAL ADJUSTMENT PROVISIONS.
>
> Mad MaX is an IDIOT.
>
Yep, manufacturing tolerances have improved out of sight in recent years.

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Xeno