Jim Behning wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:25:22 -0400, Mike Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> Jim Behning wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 00:51:31 -0400, Mike Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim Behning wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:26:23 -0400, Mike Smith
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Behning wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:58:57 +0100, "caroline"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Jim Behning" wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If I am not mistaken the Passat is made by Audi.
>>>>>>>> *ROFLMFAO*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An Audi Passat? That's a new one on me ;o)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> VW in my mind
>>>>>> "In my mind"? How 'bout trying "in reality" for a while. The Passat is
>>>>>> made by VWAG, in Emden and Zwickau, in plants where (AFAIK) no Audis are
>>>>>> made.
>>>>> I wonder if this article takes things out of my mind and in to
>>>>> reality? http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...how/447927.cms
>>>>> VW has made cars in various plants scattered about the world. They
>>>>> even made Rabbits and Golfs in Pennsylvania for a few years.
>>>> No duh. But what you *said* was that "the Passat is made by Audi".
>>>> That statement is false. And the article you cited doesn't even address
>>>> the issue; it talks about cars to be built by *Skoda*. Why can't you
>>>> just admit you were wrong?
>>> I did not state I was right or wrong. What I suggested is that I
>>> doubt that the plant workers wear a VW hat one day, a Skoda hat
>>> another day and a Audi hat another day. The badge on the car might
>>> change but who assembles the car does not. So is the question "What is
>>> the definition of make?" Does make means engineered or does make mean
>>> assembled?
>> <sigh> Regardless of the answers to any of the above, *Audi does not
>> manufacture the Passat*. Yes, there is a lot of platform sharing in the
>> VWAG family, but the simple fact remains that *Audi does not manufacture
>> the Passat*. Boy, it must really be bothering you to be wrong about
>> this, huh?
>>
>>> So answer me this, who make the the Toyota Corrolla and the Pontiac
>>> Vibe? They roll off the same assembly line in California.
>> Both cars are made by NUMMI, a joint venture between GM and Toyota.
>> Which has nothing to do with the fact that the Passat is manufactured by
>> VW in VW plants, and *not by Audi*.
> Yes it bothers me that I am wrong. Not a lot though. What bothers me
> is that I cannot find production figures easily which I am
> unfortunately sure would prove me wrong.

I'm not sure the burden of proof really works that way. Do you just go
around making random utterances, then expecting someone to prove you
*wrong*?

> I did see Emden as the
> production source on a Passat at the US VW dealer the other day. I
> have not visited an Audi dealer to see if the manufacturing plant was
> listed. I happened to be there for a brake light switch recall on my
> car. I have had my tail between my legs for a week fearing Mean Mike.
> ;-(

Um, I think maybe you need to get out more. Or at least away from Usenet.

> Try as I might obfuscation is not working on Mike. It is not working
> on me either. Hey Mike, have you found any sources that do not require
> a membership fee that list manufacturing sites and production numbers
> for major automobiles?

No, and I'm certainly not about to spend extra money over an argument in
a Usenet group.

> This would be to humor my desire for nerd
> statisitics. Production numbers for the Corvette are bit easier to
> find and one plant. They do use just one plant over the years for the
> Corvette or has it moved around?

FWIW, Wikipedia says: "It is built today exclusively at a General Motors
assembly plant in Bowling Green, Kentucky, but in the past it was built
in Flint, Michigan and St. Louis, Missouri."

--
Mike Smith