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must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message ... > The Fourth Generation Camaro's an import, too: > http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclec...istory-4.shtml > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > http://www.billhughes.com/ > > Dave Milne wrote: > > > > That top one is a Camaro isn't it ? > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
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What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It
doesn't. Made in America? It's not. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O http://www.billhughes.com/ Dave Milne wrote: > > must be missing the point - where does it say that ? > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
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I didn't see the bit where it says it was an import. Where were Camaros made
? They were a US design weren't they ? Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message ... > What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It > doesn't. Made in America? It's not. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > http://www.billhughes.com/ > > Dave Milne wrote: > > > > must be missing the point - where does it say that ? > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
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John Davies wrote:
> > Nope - a typical unmodified Wrangler is around 3500 pounds. The > typical compact sedan is around 3200 pounds, with the larger sedans > pushing 4000 or more, so in reality they are pretty equally matched in > mass. My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ. > Equal weights colliding, one with crumple zones and one with tub on a > steel frame - guess which one is safer for the occupants? Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle. > Have you ever looked at pics of old wrecked cars? They had thick steel > bodies, no crumple zones and no seat belts. Usually the front end was > tweaked a little and the left side of the windshield is gone from the > driver being thrown forward and killed. With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than absorbed by the vehicle. |
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Except in the real world. your Subaru crumple zones are what
absorbs the rigidly of the TJ frame bring it's occupants slowly to a stop with our bumper in the deceased Subaru's passengers mouths. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O http://www.billhughes.com/ B a r r y wrote: > > John Davies wrote: > > My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ. > > Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle. > > With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than > absorbed by the vehicle. |
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Well...the triplets used to being in tight quarters...
MidnightDad wrote: > A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure > out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may > have to sell it. -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
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Quebec Canada wasn't it?
/Peter "Dave Milne" > wrote in message news > I didn't see the bit where it says it was an import. Where were Camaros made > ? They were a US design weren't they ? > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message > ... > > What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It > > doesn't. Made in America? It's not. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > http://www.billhughes.com/ > > > > Dave Milne wrote: > > > > > > must be missing the point - where does it say that ? > > > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > |
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I really have no idea - I'd always assumed they were US built.
Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message ... > Quebec Canada wasn't it? > > /Peter > > "Dave Milne" > wrote in message > news > > I didn't see the bit where it says it was an import. Where were Camaros > made > > ? They were a US design weren't they ? > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message > > ... > > > What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It > > > doesn't. Made in America? It's not. > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > http://www.billhughes.com/ > > > > > > Dave Milne wrote: > > > > > > > > must be missing the point - where does it say that ? > > > > > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > > > > > |
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I think they will find that three car seats in a Wrangler is alot like 17
college kids in a VW. You can do it. Once. "MidnightDad" > wrote in message ... > A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure > out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may > have to sell it. |
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