CJ-7 Key wont turn all the way

"Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
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"Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
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> Ok gang,
> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up somehow.
> Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get
> at the rod that turns inside the column?
>
> Thanks

Ok, so I bought a new cylinder, installed it, and everything is fine now.
Total cost with Steering wheel puller and lock plate release tool and new
cylinder...about $100. My guess is that's a whole lot better than dropping
it off at the Jeep dealer. Thanks for everyone's help.

Jo

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Does that mean that "The Girl" guessed it right - first?

DANG!

Glad you got it fixed!


K.

Ok Kate...here's your nickel
"Kate" > wrote in message ...
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> "Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
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> "Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
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>> Ok gang,
>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
>> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
>> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up somehow.
>> Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get
>> at the rod that turns inside the column?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> Ok, so I bought a new cylinder, installed it, and everything is fine now.
> Total cost with Steering wheel puller and lock plate release tool and new
> cylinder...about $100. My guess is that's a whole lot better than dropping
> it off at the Jeep dealer. Thanks for everyone's help.
>
> Jo
>
> --
>
> Does that mean that "The Girl" guessed it right - first?
>
> DANG!
>
> Glad you got it fixed!
>
>
> K.
>
>
>
>

Thanks sweetie!
:¬D

K.
"Glenn news" > wrote in message
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Ok Kate...here's your nickel
"Kate" > wrote in message
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> "Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
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> "Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
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>> Ok gang,
>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
>> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
>> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up
>> somehow.
>> Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get
>> at the rod that turns inside the column?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> Ok, so I bought a new cylinder, installed it, and everything is fine now.
> Total cost with Steering wheel puller and lock plate release tool and new
> cylinder...about $100. My guess is that's a whole lot better than
> dropping
> it off at the Jeep dealer. Thanks for everyone's help.
>
> Jo
>
> --
>
> Does that mean that "The Girl" guessed it right - first?
>
> DANG!
>
> Glad you got it fixed!
>
>
> K.
>
>
>
>

Kate wrote:

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> "Glenn news" > wrote
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> use a little lube on the lock cylinder once in a while
> and that will improve its longevity.
>>
>
> Also, do not carry a big ring of keys.
> Keep your keyring light, just a couple of keys (1 house, 2 Jeep) and a fob
> if you must.
>
> The weight of heavy keyrings has been the death of many ignition locks.

Be careful of that "lube" - it's easy to gum up the works. The one I like
best is a suspension of graphite in a very light oil/solvent sold as
speedometer cable lubs. A bit messy if you get carried away but it cleans
the pins and such and is not affected by cold temps.

--
Will Honea

"DougW" > wrote in message
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> Old Crow wrote:
>> "Jeff Strickland" wrote...
>>> "Jo Baggs" wrote ...
>>>> "Jo Baggs" wrote...
>>>>> Ok gang,
>>>>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned
>>>>> to the first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine
>>>>> start detent. It almost feels like the rod inside the steering
>>>>> column is jammed up somehow. Anyone have instructions on how to
>>>>> install a new key cylinder and/or get at the rod that turns inside
>>>>> the column?
>
>>>> Ok, so I bought a new cylinder, installed it, and everything is
>>>> fine now. Total cost with Steering wheel puller and lock plate
>>>> release tool and new cylinder...about $100. My guess is that's a
>>>> whole lot better than dropping it off at the Jeep dealer. Thanks
>>>> for everyone's help.
>
>>> So, the lockset itself was broken? I woulda guessed the linkage.
>
>> That's the second one of these I've seen in like a month where it was
>> the lock cylinder rather than the rack. That's the only reason I was
>> thinking "lock cylinder" when I saw the op.
>
> Got me wondering what is failing in the cylinder. Some had a cast
> tab on the back that wore out or sheared if it was turned against
> a locked steering wheel.
>
> --
> DougW
>


Not sure about the poster's, but the one I fixed(that I fully expected to be
the pot metal rack when I started the job)ended up being the tumblers. The
lock cyl wouldn't even turn after I got it out of the column. The key
didn't look all that worn, either.

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Old Crow
'82 FLTC(P) 'Mistress Pearl'
'87 FLTC 'Crosseyed Mary'
'61 F-100
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, SLOB#13, MAMBM

"Kate" > wrote in message
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> Thanks sweetie!
> :¬D
>
> K.
> "Glenn news" > wrote in message
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> Ok Kate...here's your nickel
> "Kate" > wrote in message
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>> "Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
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>> "Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
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>>> Ok gang,
>>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
>>> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
>>> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up
>>> somehow.
>>> Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get
>>> at the rod that turns inside the column?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> Ok, so I bought a new cylinder, installed it, and everything is fine now.
>> Total cost with Steering wheel puller and lock plate release tool and new
>> cylinder...about $100. My guess is that's a whole lot better than
>> dropping
>> it off at the Jeep dealer. Thanks for everyone's help.
>>
>> Jo
>>
>> --
>>
>> Does that mean that "The Girl" guessed it right - first?
>>
>> DANG!
>>
>> Glad you got it fixed!
>>
>>
>> K.

Kate,
yes, you got it right. In fact if I had only listened to you in the first
place, it would have saved me the trouble of taking off the ignition switch
too no avail. Of course, the good news is if anything else goes wrong along
the column, I now know how to take the thing apart.

"Jo Baggs" > wrote
>> Ok, so I bought a new cylinder, installed it, and everything is fine now.
>> Total cost with Steering wheel puller and lock plate release tool and new
>> cylinder...about $100. My guess is that's a whole lot better than
>> dropping
>> it off at the Jeep dealer. Thanks for everyone's help.
>>
>> Jo
>>
>> --
>>
>> Does that mean that "The Girl" guessed it right - first?
>>
>> DANG!
>>
>> Glad you got it fixed!
>>
>>
>> K.

Kate,
yes, you got it right. In fact if I had only listened to you in the first
place, it would have saved me the trouble of taking off the ignition switch
too no avail. Of course, the good news is if anything else goes wrong along
the column, I now know how to take the thing apart.
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I dunno if I'd go THAT far, but it always good to get as many opinions as
you can before you tear into unfamiliar territory.
There are so many things that can go wrong that it's always a good idea to
have as much information as you can before you start tearing stuff apart.

The only reason I thought of it is my own past experience, with of all
things,
my ex the repo man (he popped a lot of locks and could even get an old one
to go without popping it if he held his mouth right)
and my old Chevys. Had more than one of them do the same thing and it was
always the same problem. The little cast housing was either kaput or
something had sprung sideways inside.

I'll bet you're tickled now that you learned all about it though!

K.