Way to disable passenger airbay in '97 TJ?

I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold with
rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.

I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and an
adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
vehicle....

TW

"Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message
...
> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front seat of
> trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a means of
> adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep children in the front
> seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected riding in the front seat ...
>
>
>
>
>
> "TW" (delete this)> wrote in message
> ...
>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an airbag
>> from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would void the
>> "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that, you will be
>> walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>
>> TW
>>
>> "Jason Backshall" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "RobM" > wrote in message
>>> oups.com...
>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ.
>>>>
>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I need
>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>
>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one of you
>>>> can shed some light.
>>>
>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal.
>>>
>>> J.
>>>
>>
>

"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
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> Airbags are designed for brain dead adults who refuse to use seatbelts,
> nothing else.
>

Complete and utter nonsense.

In order for an airbag to be effective, you *must* be wearing your
seatbelt - not doing so will often result in serious injury or even death as
a result of the driver/passenger being in the wrong position when the bag
inflates.

J.

If the seat belt restraints work as designed the passengers will
never impact the steering wheel nor dash. Understand?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Jason Back shall wrote:
>
> Complete and utter nonsense.
>
> In order for an airbag to be effective, you *must* be wearing your
> seatbelt - not doing so will often result in serious injury or even death as
> a result of the driver/passenger being in the wrong position when the bag
> inflates.
>
> J.

Yes I did. '02 Wrangler Sport with a back seat straight from the factory,
and it came with a passenger air bag cutoff switch standard.

Tom

"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
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> You didn't buy the '02 with a back seat.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> mabar wrote:
> >
> > My '02 TJ had a passenger side air-bag cutoff switch standard. My '06 TJ
> > does not have a cutoff switch.
> >
> > This is progress???
> >
> > Tom

Jason Backshall wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Airbags are designed for brain dead adults who refuse to use seatbelts,
> > nothing else.
> >
>
> Complete and utter nonsense.
>
> In order for an airbag to be effective, you *must* be wearing your
> seatbelt - not doing so will often result in serious injury or even death as
> a result of the driver/passenger being in the wrong position when the bag
> inflates.
>
> J.

You should read some history. Even from this link someone else posted:

American airbag designs triggering much more quickly than airbags
designed for other countries, to protect occupants not wearing seat
belts.

And:

they were touted in the 1960s and 70s as a potential seat belt
replacement,

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
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My 02 X had a back seat from the factory as well, and had a cut off switch.
My 05 doesn't.

Patrick
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"mabar" > wrote in message
...
> Yes I did. '02 Wrangler Sport with a back seat straight from the factory,
> and it came with a passenger air bag cutoff switch standard.
>
> Tom
>
> "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
> ...
>> You didn't buy the '02 with a back seat.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> http://www.billhughes.com/
>>
>> mabar wrote:
>> >
>> > My '02 TJ had a passenger side air-bag cutoff switch standard. My '06
>> > TJ
>> > does not have a cutoff switch.
>> >
>> > This is progress???
>> >
>> > Tom
>
>

Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't got a
back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable feature to give a
truck-like cargo area.

All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking "no"
for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch that the
'97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps you can as
well.





"TW" (delete this)> wrote in message
...
>
> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold with
> rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>
> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and an
> adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
> vehicle....
>
> TW
>
> "Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front seat
>> of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a means of
>> adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep children in the
>> front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected riding in the front
>> seat ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" (delete this)> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would void
>>> the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that, you will
>>> be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jason Backshall" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "RobM" > wrote in message
>>>> oups.com...
>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I need
>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>
>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one of
>>>>> you
>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>
>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal.
>>>>
>>>> J.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

My '00 Sport has the cutoff switch as well. Back seat came factory
installed.

Wifey's '04 Unlimited did not come with the switch.

"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> You didn't buy the '02 with a back seat.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> mabar wrote:
>>
>> My '02 TJ had a passenger side air-bag cutoff switch standard. My '06 TJ
>> does not have a cutoff switch.
>>
>> This is progress???
>>
>> Tom

"Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message
...
> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't got
> a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable feature to
> give a truck-like cargo area.

Yup, for both Australia and New Zealand

We're pretty limited for choice here.. No Rubicon or anything of the sort.
The Wrangler is available in 'Sport' model by default, with a Renegade pack
on top of that should you so desire. The 2.5L 4cyl isn't available here
either.. although that may be a good thing

All models are sold with back seat as standard.. I believe they're also sold
with aircon and CD as standard too?

Hence the $29,990 asking price for the entry-level model down under (down
from $33,990 a few years ago!)

J.

As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All come in
two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or hard-top (or
both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local dealer that they
will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option starting from Jan '07.
No decision yet on Rubi.

Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig..... Not
much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.

TW

"Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message
...
> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't got
> a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable feature to
> give a truck-like cargo area.
>
> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking "no"
> for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch that the
> '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps you can as
> well.
>
>
>
>
>
> "TW" (delete this)> wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>
>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and an
>> adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>> vehicle....
>>
>> TW
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front seat
>>> of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a means
>>> of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep children in the
>>> front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected riding in the front
>>> seat ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" (delete this)> wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that, you
>>>> will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>
>>>> TW
>>>>
>>>> "Jason Backshall" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> "RobM" > wrote in message
>>>>> oups.com...
>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one of
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal.
>>>>>
>>>>> J.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>