Putting two tow straps together???

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"Seahag" > wrote in message
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> Two bowlines?
>
> http://www.apparent-wind.com/knots/bowline/
>
> Seahag
>
> "4X4PLAY" > wrote in message
> news:2dJpf.13208$wg4.4127@edtnps84...
>> Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
>> doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>>
>> --
>> Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
>> http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
>> http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/4696/jeepsgif3iq.gif
>>
>
>

Jim Gemmill wrote:
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> "Rusted" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > bowlines don't slip, but put 8K of pulling power on them and they won't
> come
> > untied either.
> >
> >
> > "Seahag" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Two bowlines?
> > >
> > > http://www.apparent-wind.com/knots/bowline/
> > >
> > > Seahag
> > >
> > > "4X4PLAY" > wrote in message
> > > news:2dJpf.13208$wg4.4127@edtnps84...
> > >> Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
> > >> doweling and still be able to get them apart??
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
> > >> http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
> > >> http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/4696/jeepsgif3iq.gif
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> A bowline on a bite may be easier to untie after hard pull.
> SEE http://www.netknots.com/html/boating_knots.html
> for details
>
> >

If you make a knot, bowline or on a bight in a snatch strap that gets
used to pull something out of mud say, better make it a pretty one
because that knot will be very likely permanent.

There 'is' a reason they put loops on snatch straps. The loop on the
end is super easy to mate up with the loop on the next strap to make
extensions. These even get pretty tight, so folks stick a dowel or
stick in the mating area of the loops to help pry it open.

It is easy. You hold the loop of the first strap up in the air and put
the loop of the second strap 'over' it. You then take the far end of
the second strap and pass it 'through' the loop of the first strap.
This gives you a figure 8 knot that you can put a stick into to help it
open later.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Mike said it all, how could such a simple subject have generated so much
controversy. Oh, of course... this is the Internet.

Mike Romain wrote:
> Jim Gemmill wrote:
>
>>"Rusted" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>bowlines don't slip, but put 8K of pulling power on them and they won't
>>
>>come
>>
>>>untied either.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Seahag" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>Two bowlines?
>>>>
>>>>http://www.apparent-wind.com/knots/bowline/
>>>>
>>>>Seahag
>>>>
>>>>"4X4PLAY" > wrote in message
>>>>news:2dJpf.13208$wg4.4127@edtnps84...
>>>>
>>>>>Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
>>>>>doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
>>>>>http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
>>>>>http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/4696/jeepsgif3iq.gif
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>A bowline on a bite may be easier to untie after hard pull.
>>SEE http://www.netknots.com/html/boating_knots.html
>>for details
>>
>>
>
> If you make a knot, bowline or on a bight in a snatch strap that gets
> used to pull something out of mud say, better make it a pretty one
> because that knot will be very likely permanent.
>
> There 'is' a reason they put loops on snatch straps. The loop on the
> end is super easy to mate up with the loop on the next strap to make
> extensions. These even get pretty tight, so folks stick a dowel or
> stick in the mating area of the loops to help pry it open.
>
> It is easy. You hold the loop of the first strap up in the air and put
> the loop of the second strap 'over' it. You then take the far end of
> the second strap and pass it 'through' the loop of the first strap.
> This gives you a figure 8 knot that you can put a stick into to help it
> open later.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

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Carl wrote:
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> D-shackle, if they have loop ends.
>
> Carl

http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...02106753& p=1
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4X4PLAY wrote:
>
> Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
> doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>
> --
> Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
> http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
> http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/4696/jeepsgif3iq.gif

Dowel in this case would be a large piece of wood, like a piece of an axe
handle. And sticking it in the middle of a knot is the idea.

"Earle Horton" > wrote in message
news:1135078850.0084af2f24e1684b151acb7cf9d962ff@r oc.usenetexchange.com...
> Dowel? Dowels are made for glued peg joints in furniture, and random
> handicraft activities. They are cut with no particular attention to the
> grain or consistency of the wood. I read a piece a while ago on making a
> ramrod for a muzzle loading firearm. The author was of the opinion, that
> if
> you would like to have a piece of wood stuck through the palm of your
> hand,
> there was nothing better to make a ramrod out of. He on the other hand
> always used a piece of straight grain hickory, selected and carved for the
> purpose.
>
> I suppose that if you wanted to stick a dowel in the middle of a knot, to
> make it easier to undo, that would be all right. But knowing how
> "inventive" people can be, including one in a tool kit is asking for
> trouble.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> ...
>> You figure 8 the loops and stick the dowel through so they don't jam up.
>>
>> You don't use the dowel to hold one loop through the other. There were
>> some videos shown a while back that showed the dowel going ballistic.
>>
>> We had a long thread on it I believe.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> 4X4PLAY wrote:
>> >
>> > Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
>> > doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
>> > http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
>> > http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/4696/jeepsgif3iq.gif
>
>

4X4PLAY wrote:
> Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
> doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>

Although it's usually used for rope, a Zeppelin Bend or Rosendahl Bend
(same knot) will fit the bill:

http://www.geocities.com/roo_two/Zeppelin.html

Somehow, I have this picture of an ax slinging through the air.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Dowel in this case would be a large piece of wood, like a piece of an axe
> handle. And sticking it in the middle of a knot is the idea.

:-) Actually I made one from an axe handle or it may have been a sledge
handle, just cut it about 12" long.

"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
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> Somehow, I have this picture of an ax slinging through the air.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Dowel in this case would be a large piece of wood, like a piece of an axe
>> handle. And sticking it in the middle of a knot is the idea.

Thank you, and I didn't see you wrote it was just a piece of it.
But I can still hear it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> :-) Actually I made one from an axe handle or it may have been a sledge
> handle, just cut it about 12" long.