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Ethanol in Grand Cherokee - becoming OT
Vito wrote:
> Trucks do pay higher taxes but not enough to compensate for the damage they do > to roads. Blame Nixon. The interstates were designed to support a given weight > and trucks were limited to 60,000# IIRC so as not to exceed that even if > slightly overloaded. When Nixon ordered 55MPH the industry hollered so he upped > the limit to 80,000. That flexes the roadbed too much creating breakup and rapid > wear. You can see the damage as tire-size ridges on asphault interstates - > asphault simply cannot support the weight. I love driving over the six inch ridges at intersections from big trucks. Really shakes my kidneys! Jeeps bounce a lot more then passenger cars do. |
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Ethanol in Grand Cherokee - becoming OT
Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> Vito wrote: > >> Trucks do pay higher taxes but not enough to compensate for the damage >> they do >> to roads. Blame Nixon. The interstates were designed to support a >> given weight >> and trucks were limited to 60,000# IIRC so as not to exceed that even if >> slightly overloaded. When Nixon ordered 55MPH the industry hollered >> so he upped >> the limit to 80,000. That flexes the roadbed too much creating breakup >> and rapid >> wear. You can see the damage as tire-size ridges on asphault >> interstates - >> asphault simply cannot support the weight. > > > I love driving over the six inch ridges at intersections from big trucks. > Really shakes my kidneys! Jeeps bounce a lot more then passenger cars do. It's really much more fun on in bumper-to-bumper traffic on slick roadways at 70 MPH in a 5-ton truck -- with an axle width just a few inches narrower than all the big trucks run. |
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Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Not any glow fuel I ever used. Typically alcohol, sometimes with a bit
of nitromethane and an oil. The older ones definitely used castor oil, which had pretty much a smaller but similar effect as the aircraft castor oil did on older pilots. Aka why there was always an outhouse near the landing fields. L.W.(ßill) Hughes III proclaimed: > "castor oil flavoured" You have to do better than that! And yes I > remember the smell, very much like model airplane fuel, which of course > is petroleum. > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > http://www.billhughes.com/ |
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Ethanol in Grand Cherokee - becoming OT
If you don't contract out construction of your highways to your governors illiterate brother in law, the trucks don't do near as much damage. Vito proclaimed: > Trucks do pay higher taxes but not enough to compensate for the damage they do > to roads. Blame Nixon. The interstates were designed to support a given weight > and trucks were limited to 60,000# IIRC so as not to exceed that even if > slightly overloaded. When Nixon ordered 55MPH the industry hollered so he upped > the limit to 80,000. That flexes the roadbed too much creating breakup and rapid > wear. You can see the damage as tire-size ridges on asphault interstates - > asphault simply cannot support the weight. > > The solution is not higher taxes but lighter loads and/or more wheels/tires to > spread it over a greater area. > > "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote ... > >> Truckers if they don't have the prorated Arizona tag must pay at >>their boarder seventy five bucks each time they go the hundred miles to >>Phoenix. And that just one of the many excise taxes I PAID! So don't >>wrote that ignorant bullsh*t! >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O http://www.billhughes.com/ >> >>Bret Ludwig wrote: >> >>> The other problem is that vehicles wear roads disproportionately as to >>>weight. A 1974 Cadillac Eldorado doesn't wear roads any more than a >>>Toyota Tercel, but a tractor trailer at 80,000 lbs wears them at >>>something like thirty times the rate of the Cadillac. The speed of the >>>truck and the distance between the driver and trailer tandems puts a >>>ripple on the road at a certain pitch or length. If trucks paid their >>>proportional share of road wear and services trucking would be much >>>more expensive. Efficient regional railroads, not the highways, are >>>the cheapest and most efficient way to move heavy freight. > > > |
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Kind of like the three billion dollars we gave New Orleans to
reinforce their dikes? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O http://www.billhughes.com/ Lon wrote: > > If you don't contract out construction of your highways to your > governors illiterate brother in law, the trucks don't do near as much > damage. |
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Ethanol in Grand Cherokee - becoming OT
Yeah, there'll probably be some really big women in those gay bars down
along the waterfront by next year. Oh, you meant the other type.... I figger you got two choices since we've screwed the railroads into extinction: 1. Subsidize truckers. 2. Starve to death. And not be able to get a casket shipped. L.W.(ßill) Hughes III proclaimed: > Kind of like the three billion dollars we gave New Orleans to > reinforce their dikes? > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > http://www.billhughes.com/ > > Lon wrote: > >>If you don't contract out construction of your highways to your >>governors illiterate brother in law, the trucks don't do near as much >>damage. |
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Ethanol in Grand Cherokee - becoming OT
"Lee Ayrton" > wrote>
> It's really much more fun on in bumper-to-bumper traffic on slick > roadways at 70 MPH in a 5-ton truck -- with an axle width just a few > inches narrower than all the big trucks run. > Especially with tires prone to hydroplane .... |
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Ethanol in Grand Cherokee - becoming OT
"Lon" > wrote
> > If you don't contract out construction of your highways to your > governors illiterate brother in law, the trucks don't do near as much > damage. > To be sure, but nobody has a way to stop it so we need a work-around. |
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