2007 Unlimited Spotted

Aah.
Thanks.

Dave

"L.W.(Bill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
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> Tank.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Nope, don't get it !
> > Explain please ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland

Wasn't the TJ an improvement over the YJ?

"L.W.(Bill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
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> And something has changed?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Nospam wrote:
>>
>> While I agree with everyone's comments, I heard all of the same comments
>> in
>> 1997 when the TJ was released.
>>
>> Rob

Tom Greening wrote:

>> I then noticed that the customer was a mean-faced, middle-aged woman
>> with big hair and an attitude.

> Quite possibly the mean face and attitude was caused by an unsolicited
> rude comment about a vehicle she was interested in purchasing to please
> her, and not you.

I'd say that DC has their demographic studies honed to a science. I
could never, EVER buy something that ugly.

Upon reflection, I'd have to say the female and the '07 Unlimited were a
very good match. One never knows when they may have to traverse a
tricky, deep pothole on the way to the Bingo parlor.

Uncontrollable coil springs??????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> Wasn't the TJ an improvement over the YJ?

Nospam wrote:

> While I agree with everyone's comments, I heard all of the same comments in
> 1997 when the TJ was released.

What changed in 97? I know about square headlights to round, and coil
springs instead of leafs, both changes I could take or leave.

Now however, we are faced with a Hummer clone and minivan engine. I may
warm to the PT-like interior, but never the Unlimited's body design, and
the jury's still out on the engine. I seriously doubt it will EVER
prove to be as durable at the 4.0's.

Why not get a smaller and more powerful Grand Cherokee?

"Outatime" > wrote in message
. ..
> Nospam wrote:
>
>> While I agree with everyone's comments, I heard all of the same comments
>> in 1997 when the TJ was released.
>
> What changed in 97? I know about square headlights to round, and coil
> springs instead of leafs, both changes I could take or leave.
>
> Now however, we are faced with a Hummer clone and minivan engine. I may
> warm to the PT-like interior, but never the Unlimited's body design, and
> the jury's still out on the engine. I seriously doubt it will EVER prove
> to be as durable at the 4.0's.

"Outatime" > wrote in message
news *whining and snivelling snipped*

>
> I then noticed that the customer was a mean-faced, middle-aged woman with
> big hair and an attitude.
>
> God help us all.

There have been a few in these parts, the four doors.
I think they are kind of cool.
I stopped and looked at one on the local lot and the guys were in it
checking it out, They tried to convince me I should trade mine in, I told
them it wasn't my type of rig, nice but not for me.

I would not go buy one as a replacement vehicle for my TJ but if I needed a
four door anything, oh hell yea, I'd run out and get one right now.

They have a lot of options for comfort, though I have not driven one they
appear to be comfortable on the inside and I like the look of them.
ESPECIALLY the black and the green.

No, they aren't the classic look that everyone has become accustomed to, but
they are a damn fine looking rig.

Sadly, all things must change or they become stagnant.

Oh AND
The two I have seen on the road so far, have been driven by 40 something
white males... so much for stereotypes.

Kate
(a mean faced middle aged woman with a TJ - HAAH!)

"Outatime" > wrote in message
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> Nospam wrote:
>
>> While I agree with everyone's comments, I heard all of the same comments
>> in 1997 when the TJ was released.
>
> What changed in 97? I know about square headlights to round, and coil
> springs instead of leafs, both changes I could take or leave.
>
> Now however, we are faced with a Hummer clone and minivan engine. I may
> warm to the PT-like interior, but never the Unlimited's body design, and
> the jury's still out on the engine. I seriously doubt it will EVER prove
> to be as durable at the 4.0's.

If tehe engine is anything like the one in the Liberty, it may not be a good
thing.
The libby needed more suds for it'ws weight. I would have liked to have seen
this larger rig come with a small V8 or some REAL horsepower.

Kate

"Tom Greening" > wrote in message
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>
> YJ, TJ, and now whatever J this model is, all had/have their fair share of
> people jumping up to claim they had seen the "end of an era".

Agreed. Some people just don't like change. Just goes to show, the more
things change, the more they stay the same.

Funny
> how many buyers these monstrosities ended up finding.

Especially from serious off-roaders. With every Wrangler model, the majority
never see pavement, that's not a recent concept. The fact that one person
saw one potential buyer that probably won't use it off road, he's decided
it's unfit for public sale. Time will tell.

The TJ's introduction of coils springs has been the single most important
development in the Wrangler line in terms of overall off-road performance
and on-road manners. Even if Bill doesn't think so. Lots of "purists"
deplored the idea, but in the last 10 years the TJ has been made the new
benchmark for off-road prowess. A lot of the things we, as users, have done
with their TJ's to make them more capable have found their way into the KJ:
longer control arms, a way to disconnect the front sway bar, etc.

Wifey's actually trading her 04 TJL for a KJL. It makes sense for us, we
have three kids and the seating for 5 means we can all go off-roading in the
same vehicle when the kids get bigger. I have her convinced to wait at least
until '08 because new models always have bugs. And there is a rumor that the
'08 may have a diesel mill available, which piques my interest.

If we'd all get off the "what you run" bandwagon and be more concerned with
"why you run," the the cumulative stress level of the group would drop
considerably.

"Outatime" > wrote in message
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> Nospam wrote:
>
>> While I agree with everyone's comments, I heard all of the same comments
>> in 1997 when the TJ was released.
>
> What changed in 97? I know about square headlights to round, and coil
> springs instead of leafs, both changes I could take or leave.
>
> Now however, we are faced with a Hummer clone and minivan engine. I may
> warm to the PT-like interior, but never the Unlimited's body design, and
> the jury's still out on the engine. I seriously doubt it will EVER prove
> to be as durable at the 4.0's.