Help fighting speeding tickets

"Justin" > wrote in message
...
> In rec.motorcycles leo > wrote:
>
> : court fee. The point is cop stood there for a whole 3
> hours waiting. It's
> : pretty costly for the town/court. The whole system is
> money gouting by
> : government and insurance companies. Why do we citizen
> pay for the cop to sit
> : around to hand oput ticket rather than doing crime
> prevention? I don't see
> : any reduction in traffic fatality.
>
> You fool - the reason that cop had to stand there for
> three hours was
> *because* all those idiots were there fighting the
> tickets. If they'd all
> just admitted the guilt and paid the fine, that cop
> *could* have been out
> doing his job.
>


ROTFLMAO...you stupid ****! It's all about revenue
generation...do esad. I can't STAND idiots like
you....****ing auto drivers. Ought to be a law against your
damn cars, trucks etc. too many damn wheels.

> Speeding tickets reduce speeding, and reducing speeding
> reduces accidents,
> and that's part of the government's job - protecting its
> citizenry.

No it doesn't and no it isn't.

>When
> you say "doing crime prevention", what exactly do you
> mean?

WOW! The utter stupidity of you people in the auto groups is
astounding! No wonder I can't stand soccer moms in
mini-vans...they are almost as stupid, ignorant and servile
civil slaves as their husbands. I do hope you get neutered
before you reproduce you ignorant, thick headed, mouth
breathing, pig ****ing, **** eating cager.


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In rec.motorcycles Scott en Aztlan > wrote:

: If he'd been doing his job in the first place, there would have been
: no tickets to fight, and he wouldn't have wasted 3 hours in court.
: Instead, he sat at the side of the road with a doughnut and a radar
: gun.

He - the cop - did not make the decision to sit at the side of the road,
his superiors did. He was doing his job, so if there's a complaint, it
needs to go further up the ladder than just this cop or "cops" in
general. The system needs some revamping, for sure.

: Cops could prevent a lot more accidents if they targeted the dangerous
: drivers, like LLBs, Passholes, and Sloths. These drivers cause road

Absolutely, but the problems are all interconnected. To a large part any
irregularities in smooth traffic flow are dangerous. By commenting that
reducing speeding reduces accidents, I don't mean to imply that this is
the *only* thing that should be targeted, or that it should *always* be
targeted. Speeding through residential areas - *definitely* should be
ticketed, for example. Slow drivers in the left lane of the highway -
*definitely*. And so forth.

: If cops would put as much emphasis on enforcing the KRETP laws as they
: do on enforcing the speed laws the roads would be much safer and flow
: much more freely.

Sure would, I agree.

Best regards,
Justin
'02 Shadow VT750DC

In rec.motorcycles Scott en Aztlan > wrote:

: If he'd been doing his job in the first place, there would have been
: no tickets to fight, and he wouldn't have wasted 3 hours in court.
: Instead, he sat at the side of the road with a doughnut and a radar
: gun.

He - the cop - did not make the decision to sit at the side of the road,
his superiors did. He was doing his job, so if there's a complaint, it
needs to go further up the ladder than just this cop or "cops" in
general. The system needs some revamping, for sure.

: Cops could prevent a lot more accidents if they targeted the dangerous
: drivers, like LLBs, Passholes, and Sloths. These drivers cause road

Absolutely, but the problems are all interconnected. To a large part any
irregularities in smooth traffic flow are dangerous. By commenting that
reducing speeding reduces accidents, I don't mean to imply that this is
the *only* thing that should be targeted, or that it should *always* be
targeted. Speeding through residential areas - *definitely* should be
ticketed, for example. Slow drivers in the left lane of the highway -
*definitely*. And so forth.

: If cops would put as much emphasis on enforcing the KRETP laws as they
: do on enforcing the speed laws the roads would be much safer and flow
: much more freely.

Sure would, I agree.

Best regards,
Justin
'02 Shadow VT750DC

Keith Schiffner wrote:

> WOW! The utter stupidity of you people in the auto groups is
> astounding!

I doubt it. Besides, I can assure you that neither leo nor Justin are
regular posters in rec.autos.driving. Since you evidently are posting
from rec.motorcycles, then by process of elimination, the stupidity is
originating from posters reading misc.legal.

Keith Schiffner wrote:

> WOW! The utter stupidity of you people in the auto groups is
> astounding!

I doubt it. Besides, I can assure you that neither leo nor Justin are
regular posters in rec.autos.driving. Since you evidently are posting
from rec.motorcycles, then by process of elimination, the stupidity is
originating from posters reading misc.legal.

"Arif Khokar" > wrote in message
...
> Keith Schiffner wrote:
>
>> WOW! The utter stupidity of you people in the auto groups
>> is astounding!
>
> I doubt it. Besides, I can assure you that neither leo
> nor Justin are regular posters in rec.autos.driving.
> Since you evidently are posting from rec.motorcycles, then
> by process of elimination, the stupidity is originating
> from posters reading misc.legal.

I dunno<tongue in cheek> if you rode a motorcycle you would
never cease to be amazed at the stupidity of people who
don't ride. I only know half a dozen lawyers that ride, no
judges and the only police officer who rode died in a single
vehicle roll over(Ford exploder) so no...it's generally the
cagers and **** house lawyers that are stupid. Most
motorcyclists are not stupid just miss-informed.

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"Arif Khokar" > wrote in message
...
> Keith Schiffner wrote:
>
>> WOW! The utter stupidity of you people in the auto groups
>> is astounding!
>
> I doubt it. Besides, I can assure you that neither leo
> nor Justin are regular posters in rec.autos.driving.
> Since you evidently are posting from rec.motorcycles, then
> by process of elimination, the stupidity is originating
> from posters reading misc.legal.

I dunno<tongue in cheek> if you rode a motorcycle you would
never cease to be amazed at the stupidity of people who
don't ride. I only know half a dozen lawyers that ride, no
judges and the only police officer who rode died in a single
vehicle roll over(Ford exploder) so no...it's generally the
cagers and **** house lawyers that are stupid. Most
motorcyclists are not stupid just miss-informed.

--
Nefarious Necrologist 42nd Degree
Some people ride, some just like to show off their butt
jewelry once in a while.
Dum vivimus, vivamus
<3 )3~~ <3 )3~~ <3 )3~ <3 )3~
<3 )~ <3 )~

In article >, Justin > wrote:
>In rec.motorcycles leo > wrote:
>
>: court fee. The point is cop stood there for a whole 3 hours waiting. It's
>: pretty costly for the town/court. The whole system is money gouting by
>: government and insurance companies. Why do we citizen pay for the cop to sit
>: around to hand oput ticket rather than doing crime prevention? I don't see
>: any reduction in traffic fatality.
>
>You fool - the reason that cop had to stand there for three hours was
>*because* all those idiots were there fighting the tickets. If they'd all
>just admitted the guilt and paid the fine, that cop *could* have been out
>doing his job.

In this country, at least as it was designed, it is not up to the
defendant to admit guilt. It is up to the government to prove it.

In any case, if all those people had admitted guilt and paid the fine,
the cop would not have been out doing crime prevention. He would have
been out getting more revenue by writing more tickets.

In article >, Justin > wrote:
>In rec.motorcycles leo > wrote:
>
>: court fee. The point is cop stood there for a whole 3 hours waiting. It's
>: pretty costly for the town/court. The whole system is money gouting by
>: government and insurance companies. Why do we citizen pay for the cop to sit
>: around to hand oput ticket rather than doing crime prevention? I don't see
>: any reduction in traffic fatality.
>
>You fool - the reason that cop had to stand there for three hours was
>*because* all those idiots were there fighting the tickets. If they'd all
>just admitted the guilt and paid the fine, that cop *could* have been out
>doing his job.

In this country, at least as it was designed, it is not up to the
defendant to admit guilt. It is up to the government to prove it.

In any case, if all those people had admitted guilt and paid the fine,
the cop would not have been out doing crime prevention. He would have
been out getting more revenue by writing more tickets.

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 06:36:47 GMT, "leo" > wrote:

>Alan Moore wrote:
>> On 12 Dec 2004 20:44:19 -0800, "jhonny" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> After reading so many posts and getting a few tickets myself. I
>>> decided to put my knowledge to some good use and make a website to
>>> help people fight speeding tickets or any kind of moving voilations
>>> by providing them the right information, here is the links
>>> http://www.fightyourticket.net I would like to thank all the people
>>> who helped me and continue to give me their support for this cause.
>>> Once again here is the links http://www.fightyourticket.net any
>>> feedback will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> The best (i.e. most successful) strategy is not to get the tickets in
>> the first place. If you can't spot the cops, learn to control your
>> speed.
>>
>> Al Moore
>> DoD 734
>
>my niece fight for a ticket; everybody else was talked down by the cop to
>plead guilty. She lost it as expected but the judge waived the fine, just
>court fee. The point is cop stood there for a whole 3 hours waiting. It's
>pretty costly for the town/court. The whole system is money gouting by
>government and insurance companies. Why do we citizen pay for the cop to sit
>around to hand oput ticket rather than doing crime prevention?

>I don't see
>any reduction in traffic fatality.

From what?
Have you been driving so long that you can remember when traffic cops
*didn't* do what they are doing now?

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