Portrait of a bad driver

Around 12/19/2004 11:01 AM, Dave Head wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:47:03 -0800, John David Galt
> > wrote:
>
>>Unfortunately true. As they taught me in driving school, accidents caused by
>>LLBs tend to be behind the LLB rather than include him/her.
>
> I have not been involved in any such accidents. Period. Nobody has tried and
> failed to avoid me in any such situation, period. I'm not the cause of anyone
> else's accident, period.

That you know of. As you've demonstrated, you're not the most observant
of drivers.

> Try and spin it any way you want, but you're wrong.

Nope, he's absolutely right.

> This way I choose to drive
> is to minimize risk to myself first, and others second.

Isn't it interesting that your actual behavior is in direct opposition
to your stated goal?

Improper driving does *not* minimize risk to you or anyone around you.

Driving properly, if you would ever try it, would indeed minimize risk.

> It works.

It's a kludge that just makes things worse for *everybody*.

> Nobody's been hurt on the highways because of me.

Again, that you know of.


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"John David Galt" > wrote in message
...
> Dave Head wrote:
>> On 19 Dec 2004 07:37:25 -0800, "Harry K" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>1. Doesn't know how to use the rear view mirrors
>>>2. Thinks a certain number over posted is the safest speed rather than
>>>the flow speed.
>>>3. Doesn't know/understand KRETP concept
>>>4. Doesn't know what 'go with the flow' means.
>>>Gee, that sounds like someone we all know and abhor.
>>>
>>>Harry K
>>
>>
>> And someone who has never had his name written as a participant in any
>> police
>> accident report on this planet over a 40+ year driving career.
>
> Unfortunately true. As they taught me in driving school, accidents caused
> by
> LLBs tend to be behind the LLB rather than include him/her.

By definition then, if all people drove similar to the way Dave drives, then
there would be far fewer accidents overall. There would be no one to "block"
which apparently is the main reason that makes the KRETP group to wreck.

These are all interesting discussions...bordering on comical. One think
I've notices. There are radicals on both sides. I'm in the same club as
Dave as it pertains to accidents....none in almost 35 years. The only
ticket I ever received was back in the mid 70's doing 65 in a 55 on I-95.
But, I move right when not passing anyone...which is the difference I have
with Dave. I do this because I don't want any part of being in the middle
of the constant battle between the KRETP crowd and the LLB crowd. (although
apparently it is safe over there for LLBers...only unsafe for the KRETPers).
From the "outsiders" perspective, both sides look darn silly to me! The
lengths of danger and escalation each will go to for something that is of
little consequence (either actively trying to slow speeders OR speeders
trying desperately to get to their destination 30-seconds sooner). It's the
dumbest damn thing I've ever seen (or read about here). Can't each side
give in just a little bit? KREPT folks, just slow down a little? LLB's
move right more often?

"John David Galt" > wrote in message
...
> Dave Head wrote:
>> On 19 Dec 2004 07:37:25 -0800, "Harry K" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>1. Doesn't know how to use the rear view mirrors
>>>2. Thinks a certain number over posted is the safest speed rather than
>>>the flow speed.
>>>3. Doesn't know/understand KRETP concept
>>>4. Doesn't know what 'go with the flow' means.
>>>Gee, that sounds like someone we all know and abhor.
>>>
>>>Harry K
>>
>>
>> And someone who has never had his name written as a participant in any
>> police
>> accident report on this planet over a 40+ year driving career.
>
> Unfortunately true. As they taught me in driving school, accidents caused
> by
> LLBs tend to be behind the LLB rather than include him/her.

By definition then, if all people drove similar to the way Dave drives, then
there would be far fewer accidents overall. There would be no one to "block"
which apparently is the main reason that makes the KRETP group to wreck.

These are all interesting discussions...bordering on comical. One think
I've notices. There are radicals on both sides. I'm in the same club as
Dave as it pertains to accidents....none in almost 35 years. The only
ticket I ever received was back in the mid 70's doing 65 in a 55 on I-95.
But, I move right when not passing anyone...which is the difference I have
with Dave. I do this because I don't want any part of being in the middle
of the constant battle between the KRETP crowd and the LLB crowd. (although
apparently it is safe over there for LLBers...only unsafe for the KRETPers).
From the "outsiders" perspective, both sides look darn silly to me! The
lengths of danger and escalation each will go to for something that is of
little consequence (either actively trying to slow speeders OR speeders
trying desperately to get to their destination 30-seconds sooner). It's the
dumbest damn thing I've ever seen (or read about here). Can't each side
give in just a little bit? KREPT folks, just slow down a little? LLB's
move right more often?

Garth Almgren > wrote in
:

> Around 12/19/2004 11:01 AM, Dave Head wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:47:03 -0800, John David Galt
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Unfortunately true. As they taught me in driving school, accidents
>>>caused by LLBs tend to be behind the LLB rather than include him/her.
>>
>> I have not been involved in any such accidents. Period. Nobody has
>> tried and failed to avoid me in any such situation, period. I'm not
>> the cause of anyone else's accident, period.
>
> That you know of. As you've demonstrated, you're not the most
> observant of drivers.
>
>> Try and spin it any way you want, but you're wrong.
>
> Nope, he's absolutely right.
>
>> This way I choose to drive
>> is to minimize risk to myself first, and others second.
>
> Isn't it interesting that your actual behavior is in direct opposition
> to your stated goal?
>
> Improper driving does *not* minimize risk to you or anyone around you.
>
> Driving properly, if you would ever try it, would indeed minimize
> risk.
>
>> It works.
>
> It's a kludge that just makes things worse for *everybody*.
>
>> Nobody's been hurt on the highways because of me.
>
> Again, that you know of.
>
>

DPH is also missing that his view is now a case of "I'm right and the world
is all wrong".

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

Garth Almgren > wrote in
:

> Around 12/19/2004 11:01 AM, Dave Head wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:47:03 -0800, John David Galt
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Unfortunately true. As they taught me in driving school, accidents
>>>caused by LLBs tend to be behind the LLB rather than include him/her.
>>
>> I have not been involved in any such accidents. Period. Nobody has
>> tried and failed to avoid me in any such situation, period. I'm not
>> the cause of anyone else's accident, period.
>
> That you know of. As you've demonstrated, you're not the most
> observant of drivers.
>
>> Try and spin it any way you want, but you're wrong.
>
> Nope, he's absolutely right.
>
>> This way I choose to drive
>> is to minimize risk to myself first, and others second.
>
> Isn't it interesting that your actual behavior is in direct opposition
> to your stated goal?
>
> Improper driving does *not* minimize risk to you or anyone around you.
>
> Driving properly, if you would ever try it, would indeed minimize
> risk.
>
>> It works.
>
> It's a kludge that just makes things worse for *everybody*.
>
>> Nobody's been hurt on the highways because of me.
>
> Again, that you know of.
>
>

DPH is also missing that his view is now a case of "I'm right and the world
is all wrong".

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

Well since you have admitted you can't tell what's happening behind you
in the mirrors, how do you -know- you haven't caused and accident??
Harry K

Well since you have admitted you can't tell what's happening behind you
in the mirrors, how do you -know- you haven't caused and accident??
Harry K

I forgot to add:

5. Refuses to take advice.

Harry K

I forgot to add:

5. Refuses to take advice.

Harry K

On 19 Dec 2004 18:19:46 -0800, "Harry K" > wrote:

>Well since you have admitted you can't tell what's happening behind you
>in the mirrors, how do you -know- you haven't caused and accident??
>Harry K

I keep a fairly good scan for cops and other things out the back via the
internal mirror. If there would have been a recent wreck, I'd have seen it.
No sudden wreck has appeared on the 6 that wasn't there before I passed it.

DPH