Ford's "Easy Fuel" capless fuel filler?

I just learned that the 2010 (and perhaps earlier) Ford
Explorers, and other Ford models, have what Ford calls
"Easy Fuel" capless fuel fillers. As near as I can
tell, instead of unscrewing a cap, one inserts the gas
pump nozzle into an opening which automatically moves
aside for fueling, and immediately closes when the
nozzle is withdrawn. So far, no problems.

I also learned that one can buy a locking cover, to
protect your gas tank from someone siphoning gas out.
However, Ford says on one of its websites that it is
almost impossible to siphon gas out, due to a second
"one-way valve" on the tank where the filler attaches.
That sounds OK to me too.

Here is the potential problem I'm wondering if any of
you have faced. The website also suggests that gas can
be placed into your tank ONLY with a properly sized
nozzle from a gas pump. Suppose you run out of gas,
and need to add gas from a plastic 2- or 5-gallon gas
can? Can one do it, or does that second "one-way
valve" deep into the filler keep the gas from entering
the tank?

Has anyone here been successful in adding gas (other
than at a gas station) to a Ford which is equipped with
this relatively new device?

Thanks.

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CWLee
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cows. Believing we should hire for quality, not
quotas, and
promote for performance, not preferences.

I have locking gas caps on both of my Dodge vans.
I don't think Ford's ''Easy Fuel'' capless thingy is such a ''Bright''
idea.Suppose some creeps want to put whatever kinds of crap into those
capless fuel tanks?
Pouring fuel from a small gasoline container into capless fuel tanks
should work ok.If not, Ford has screwed up!
cuhulin

In article >,
wrote:

> I have locking gas caps on both of my Dodge vans.
> I don't think Ford's ''Easy Fuel'' capless thingy is such a ''Bright''
> idea.

I'll bet that their P04XX EVAP code warranty claims drop considerably.

> Suppose some creeps want to put whatever kinds of crap into those
> capless fuel tanks?

It would make no difference than if they had a conventional gas cap.
(duh)
However, most fuel doors have inside release mechanisms, so as long as
the vehicle is locked, it wouldn't be that easy.

> Pouring fuel from a small gasoline container into capless fuel tanks
> should work ok.If not, Ford has screwed up!
> cuhulin

"aarcuda69062" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> wrote:
>
>> I have locking gas caps on both of my Dodge vans.
>> I don't think Ford's ''Easy Fuel'' capless thingy is such a
>> ''Bright''
>> idea.

It seems to work Ok. I always feel weird when I fill up my F150. I
just open the fuel door and stick in the nozzle. When I am finished I
just pull the nozzle out and close the door. It is fast and efficient
and I never spill any gass.

> I'll bet that their P04XX EVAP code warranty claims drop
> considerably.
>
>> Suppose some creeps want to put whatever kinds of crap into those
>> capless fuel tanks?

You can worry about everythig. I've never had this happen in 40 years
of driving.

> It would make no difference than if they had a conventional gas cap.
> (duh)
> However, most fuel doors have inside release mechanisms, so as long
> as
> the vehicle is locked, it wouldn't be that easy.

Ford has mostly quit building cars with inside fule release levers.

>> Pouring fuel from a small gasoline container into capless fuel
>> tanks
>> should work ok.If not, Ford has screwed up!

Most gas cans you buy have poperly sized nozzles (at least all the
ones we own do).

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/car...gravation.html

Ed

I doubt if most people use a funnel with small portable gas containers.I
doubt those handy dandy funnels that Ford supplies with Easy Fuel
vehicles will stay with most of those Easy Fuel vehicles for a long
while.Funnels and other thingys have a habit of getting lost.
cuhulin

> wrote in message
...
>I doubt if most people use a funnel with small portable gas
>containers.I
> doubt those handy dandy funnels that Ford supplies with Easy Fuel
> vehicles will stay with most of those Easy Fuel vehicles for a long
> while.Funnels and other thingys have a habit of getting lost.
> cuhulin

I hear what you are saying. I didn't know what the funnel was for. It
was in with the tire changing equipment (jack, crank, wrench,etc.).
Shortly afer I got the F150 I ran over something on the highway and
had to change a tire by the side of the road. I thought the funnel was
some sort of device to help you guide the jack crank into the winch
that lets you lower the spare tire. I stuck the funnel into the hole
where you insert the crank shaft thinking it would better align the
shaft. It did a poor job of this! Only later when I actually looked
through the Owner's Guide did I find out what it really was. Ford
should have label the thing for us idiots.

Ed

CWLee wrote:
>

> Here is the potential problem I'm wondering if any of you have faced.
> The website also suggests that gas can be placed into your tank ONLY
> with a properly sized nozzle from a gas pump.

Gas pump nozzles have been like that for years, ever since unleaded gas
came in. The pump nozzle for unleaded gas is smaller than one for
leaded gas so you can't put leaded in by mistake.

They also make gas cans nozzles 'unleaded' size and gravity gets by the
internal 'valve' I have even seen those one way anti siphon 'valves' as
a simple coil spring inside the tube.

Mike
2000 Cherokee Sport
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and
Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com

On Nov 21, 2:46*pm, Mike Romain > wrote:
> CWLee wrote:
>
> > Here is the potential problem I'm wondering if any of you have faced. *
> > The website also suggests that gas can be placed into your tank ONLY
> > with a properly sized nozzle from a gas pump. *
>
> Gas pump nozzles have been like that for years, ever since unleaded gas
> came in. *The pump nozzle for unleaded gas is smaller than one for
> leaded gas so you can't put leaded in by mistake.
>
> They also make gas cans nozzles 'unleaded' size and gravity gets by the
> internal 'valve' *I have even seen those one way anti siphon 'valves' as
> a simple coil spring inside the tube.
>
> Mike
> 2000 Cherokee Sport
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 'New' frame and everything else in '09. *Some Canadian Bush Trip and
> Build Photos:http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com
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I see this "capless filler" as a GOOD example of NASCAR making it's
way too far into public life.

And something else enters my mind when I think about Ford's new
innovation - it starts with the letter "f" and ends in smoke...

-CC

Mike Romain wrote:
> CWLee wrote:
>>
>
>> Here is the potential problem I'm wondering if any of you have faced.
>> The website also suggests that gas can be placed into your tank ONLY
>> with a properly sized nozzle from a gas pump.
>
> Gas pump nozzles have been like that for years, ever since unleaded gas
> came in. The pump nozzle for unleaded gas is smaller than one for
> leaded gas so you can't put leaded in by mistake.
>
> They also make gas cans nozzles 'unleaded' size and gravity gets by the
> internal 'valve' I have even seen those one way anti siphon 'valves' as
> a simple coil spring inside the tube.

My 67 Barracuda had a quick-fill chrome cap that you opened by pressing
on the release on the side and flipped it open. That was certainly "
"boss." My mother 70 Barracuda had the filler located behind the spring
loaded license plate holder. That was "not too cool." I'm glad that
they're trying to make gimmicky gas fillers again.

>
> Mike
> 2000 Cherokee Sport
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and
> Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com

dsi1 > wrote:
>
>My 67 Barracuda had a quick-fill chrome cap that you opened by pressing
>on the release on the side and flipped it open. That was certainly "
>"boss." My mother 70 Barracuda had the filler located behind the spring
>loaded license plate holder. That was "not too cool." I'm glad that
>they're trying to make gimmicky gas fillers again.

Agreed. The current Ford system is definitely "far out." Since the
current generation of gas cans has a nozzle specifically designed to
fit like the filler nozzle on the pump, I don't see that it would be
any issue. "Totally wicked" quick-fill systems should function in a
"groovy way" with the modern cans.

There are some old cans out there that don't have a long nozzle on
them, just a short spout. Those would work with cars designed for
leaded gas, but when unleaded came along the modern narrow nozzle
standard came out specifically to prevent "hodads" from pouring
leaded gas into a car designed only for unleaded.
--scott

>
>>
>> Mike
>> 2000 Cherokee Sport
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and
>> Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com


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