Good off-roading video

Heard of Walkerton, Ontario?

Cow/Bull **** polluted local drinking water and killed a dozen ppl and 600
or so got sick.
Granted, the guys looking after the water system were negligent....but
nonetheless, cows ****ting in streams EN MASSE is NOT good for the
environment.

That much **** in the water can wreck the streams breading habitat for a
season. Ok...only one season, but they cross it every year. So they're now
up there as far as pollutant contributors killing the environment.

Both sides are guilty to a degree....but lets be sure that if we're putting
restrictions on the side that doesn't offer up mass profits, then we should
put restrictions on the ones that are $$-makers.


"wkearney99" > wrote in message
...
> From: "Kevin S" >
>> Borrowed this link from another board I read.
>> http://www.bigcountryoff-road.com/Past%20Events/adg.wmv
>
>
> Animals crossing streams don't leave hydrocarbon pollutants. Cows may
> well
> **** in the streams but it's bio-mass and will naturally degrade. Oil
> from
> a transfer case won't. Nor will the oils from the tires and the like.
> Likewise the run off caused by trails is considerably worse than even
> stampedes of animals.
>
> While I'm all for reasonable uses of of the outdoors, there's plenty of
> bull**** on both sides. The video's just a collection of one side's
> bull**** and pandering.
>

Great video, especially the end with the kids, made me a little misty...





In article >,
DragonRider > wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 14:10:02 -0700, "Kevin S"
> > wrote:
>
> >Borrowed this link from another board I read.
> >
> >http://www.bigcountryoff-road.com/Past%20Events/adg.wmv
>
> Excellent video and great points are made. Thank you for sharing it.
>

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Great video, especially the end with the kids, made me a little misty...





In article >,
DragonRider > wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 14:10:02 -0700, "Kevin S"
> > wrote:
>
> >Borrowed this link from another board I read.
> >
> >http://www.bigcountryoff-road.com/Past%20Events/adg.wmv
>
> Excellent video and great points are made. Thank you for sharing it.
>

--
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|???L --O|||||||O-
()_)?()_) ????? )_)

2300 seriously sick there and seven dead and a town ruined by bad
publicity.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SteveBrady wrote:
>
> Heard of Walkerton, Ontario?
>
> Cow/Bull **** polluted local drinking water and killed a dozen ppl and 600
> or so got sick.
> Granted, the guys looking after the water system were negligent....but
> nonetheless, cows ****ting in streams EN MASSE is NOT good for the
> environment.
>
> That much **** in the water can wreck the streams breading habitat for a
> season. Ok...only one season, but they cross it every year. So they're now
> up there as far as pollutant contributors killing the environment.
>
> Both sides are guilty to a degree....but lets be sure that if we're putting
> restrictions on the side that doesn't offer up mass profits, then we should
> put restrictions on the ones that are $$-makers.
>
> "wkearney99" > wrote in message
> ...
> > From: "Kevin S" >
> >> Borrowed this link from another board I read.
> >> http://www.bigcountryoff-road.com/Past%20Events/adg.wmv
> >
> >
> > Animals crossing streams don't leave hydrocarbon pollutants. Cows may
> > well
> > **** in the streams but it's bio-mass and will naturally degrade. Oil
> > from
> > a transfer case won't. Nor will the oils from the tires and the like.
> > Likewise the run off caused by trails is considerably worse than even
> > stampedes of animals.
> >
> > While I'm all for reasonable uses of of the outdoors, there's plenty of
> > bull**** on both sides. The video's just a collection of one side's
> > bull**** and pandering.
> >

2300 seriously sick there and seven dead and a town ruined by bad
publicity.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SteveBrady wrote:
>
> Heard of Walkerton, Ontario?
>
> Cow/Bull **** polluted local drinking water and killed a dozen ppl and 600
> or so got sick.
> Granted, the guys looking after the water system were negligent....but
> nonetheless, cows ****ting in streams EN MASSE is NOT good for the
> environment.
>
> That much **** in the water can wreck the streams breading habitat for a
> season. Ok...only one season, but they cross it every year. So they're now
> up there as far as pollutant contributors killing the environment.
>
> Both sides are guilty to a degree....but lets be sure that if we're putting
> restrictions on the side that doesn't offer up mass profits, then we should
> put restrictions on the ones that are $$-makers.
>
> "wkearney99" > wrote in message
> ...
> > From: "Kevin S" >
> >> Borrowed this link from another board I read.
> >> http://www.bigcountryoff-road.com/Past%20Events/adg.wmv
> >
> >
> > Animals crossing streams don't leave hydrocarbon pollutants. Cows may
> > well
> > **** in the streams but it's bio-mass and will naturally degrade. Oil
> > from
> > a transfer case won't. Nor will the oils from the tires and the like.
> > Likewise the run off caused by trails is considerably worse than even
> > stampedes of animals.
> >
> > While I'm all for reasonable uses of of the outdoors, there's plenty of
> > bull**** on both sides. The video's just a collection of one side's
> > bull**** and pandering.
> >

I think we are talking about reasonable uses. I doubt anyone here drives up
and down streams for the hell of it, or plans to change the tranny fluid in
the middle of the river. This may be a collection of only one sides point
of view, but it's not one that usually gets seen. I love the outdoors, and
I also love to take the Jeep out and enjoy it. I spend just as much time on
hiking trips as I do taking the Jeep out, but if that makes me a bad person,
so be it. I also hunt though, so I'm probably going to hell anyways.

> While I'm all for reasonable uses of of the outdoors, there's plenty of
> bull**** on both sides. The video's just a collection of one side's
> bull**** and pandering.
>

I think we are talking about reasonable uses. I doubt anyone here drives up
and down streams for the hell of it, or plans to change the tranny fluid in
the middle of the river. This may be a collection of only one sides point
of view, but it's not one that usually gets seen. I love the outdoors, and
I also love to take the Jeep out and enjoy it. I spend just as much time on
hiking trips as I do taking the Jeep out, but if that makes me a bad person,
so be it. I also hunt though, so I'm probably going to hell anyways.

> While I'm all for reasonable uses of of the outdoors, there's plenty of
> bull**** on both sides. The video's just a collection of one side's
> bull**** and pandering.
>

Couldn't remember the actual numbers....but more than there shoulda been, no
doubt!


"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
> 2300 seriously sick there and seven dead and a town ruined by bad
> publicity.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SteveBrady wrote:
>>
>> Heard of Walkerton, Ontario?
>>
>> Cow/Bull **** polluted local drinking water and killed a dozen ppl and
>> 600
>> or so got sick.
>> Granted, the guys looking after the water system were negligent....but
>> nonetheless, cows ****ting in streams EN MASSE is NOT good for the
>> environment.
>>
>> That much **** in the water can wreck the streams breading habitat for a
>> season. Ok...only one season, but they cross it every year. So they're
>> now
>> up there as far as pollutant contributors killing the environment.
>>
>> Both sides are guilty to a degree....but lets be sure that if we're
>> putting
>> restrictions on the side that doesn't offer up mass profits, then we
>> should
>> put restrictions on the ones that are $$-makers.
>>
>> "wkearney99" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > From: "Kevin S" >
>> >> Borrowed this link from another board I read.
>> >> http://www.bigcountryoff-road.com/Past%20Events/adg.wmv
>> >
>> >
>> > Animals crossing streams don't leave hydrocarbon pollutants. Cows may
>> > well
>> > **** in the streams but it's bio-mass and will naturally degrade. Oil
>> > from
>> > a transfer case won't. Nor will the oils from the tires and the like.
>> > Likewise the run off caused by trails is considerably worse than even
>> > stampedes of animals.
>> >
>> > While I'm all for reasonable uses of of the outdoors, there's plenty of
>> > bull**** on both sides. The video's just a collection of one side's
>> > bull**** and pandering.
>> >

Couldn't remember the actual numbers....but more than there shoulda been, no
doubt!


"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
> 2300 seriously sick there and seven dead and a town ruined by bad
> publicity.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SteveBrady wrote:
>>
>> Heard of Walkerton, Ontario?
>>
>> Cow/Bull **** polluted local drinking water and killed a dozen ppl and
>> 600
>> or so got sick.
>> Granted, the guys looking after the water system were negligent....but
>> nonetheless, cows ****ting in streams EN MASSE is NOT good for the
>> environment.
>>
>> That much **** in the water can wreck the streams breading habitat for a
>> season. Ok...only one season, but they cross it every year. So they're
>> now
>> up there as far as pollutant contributors killing the environment.
>>
>> Both sides are guilty to a degree....but lets be sure that if we're
>> putting
>> restrictions on the side that doesn't offer up mass profits, then we
>> should
>> put restrictions on the ones that are $$-makers.
>>
>> "wkearney99" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > From: "Kevin S" >
>> >> Borrowed this link from another board I read.
>> >> http://www.bigcountryoff-road.com/Past%20Events/adg.wmv
>> >
>> >
>> > Animals crossing streams don't leave hydrocarbon pollutants. Cows may
>> > well
>> > **** in the streams but it's bio-mass and will naturally degrade. Oil
>> > from
>> > a transfer case won't. Nor will the oils from the tires and the like.
>> > Likewise the run off caused by trails is considerably worse than even
>> > stampedes of animals.
>> >
>> > While I'm all for reasonable uses of of the outdoors, there's plenty of
>> > bull**** on both sides. The video's just a collection of one side's
>> > bull**** and pandering.
>> >