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Old July 15th 08, 09:38 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
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What is the current preferred tire rotation pattern for radial tires?

My Chrysler owners book and Michelin give the traditional X pattern.
My tire dealer says definitely front to rear, which he did but that
means my sidewalls on the curb side take all the wear.

My tires are about 50% worn.
TIA
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Old July 16th 08, 01:29 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
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Default preferred tire rotation pattern

who wrote:
> What is the current preferred tire rotation pattern for radial tires?
>
> My Chrysler owners book and Michelin give the traditional X pattern.
> My tire dealer says definitely front to rear, which he did but that
> means my sidewalls on the curb side take all the wear.
>
> My tires are about 50% worn.
> TIA


Unless you have *directional* tread pattern tires (which would be
indicated by a label and arrow showing required direction of rotation on
the sidewall), you should either move fronts straight back and move the
rears to the opposite side on the front *OR* move the backs straight
forward and move the fronts to opposite side on the rear. Choose *one*
of those two and do that pattern consistently over the life of a given
set of tires. That way, over the series of rotations that you will give
them over their life, you maximize the evening out of irregular wear
patterns, which is the purpose of rotating them (along with reducing
likelihood of their becoming noisy and/or non-optimum handling). (If
you think about it, with one of those two patterns, each tire will have
at least one turn at every position over its life.)

Your tire dealer is either grossly incompetent *OR* they noticed that
your tires have directional rotation tread.

If you've not rotated your tires over the first half of their life, you
won't gain optimum tread life by starting to rotate at this late date,
but you will gain something. If they rotate them for free, then it's
worth doing. If they charge you for it, then it's questionable whether
you will have a net savings. To really benefit from rotation, it should
be done every 5000 to 7000 miles. For most people who take decent care
of their cars, a rule of thumb would be either every oil change or every
other oil change depending on what you use for the change interval.

Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')
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Old July 18th 08, 09:54 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
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Default preferred tire rotation pattern

In article >,
Bill Putney > wrote:

> who wrote:
> > What is the current preferred tire rotation pattern for radial tires?
> >
> > My Chrysler owners book and Michelin give the traditional X pattern.
> > My tire dealer says definitely front to rear, which he did but that
> > means my sidewalls on the curb side take all the wear.
> >
> > My tires are about 50% worn.
> > TIA

>
> Unless you have *directional* tread pattern tires (which would be
> indicated by a label and arrow showing required direction of rotation on
> the sidewall), you should either move fronts straight back and move the
> rears to the opposite side on the front *OR* move the backs straight
> forward and move the fronts to opposite side on the rear. Choose *one*
> of those two and do that pattern consistently over the life of a given
> set of tires. That way, over the series of rotations that you will give
> them over their life, you maximize the evening out of irregular wear
> patterns, which is the purpose of rotating them (along with reducing
> likelihood of their becoming noisy and/or non-optimum handling). (If
> you think about it, with one of those two patterns, each tire will have
> at least one turn at every position over its life.)
>
> Your tire dealer is either grossly incompetent *OR* they noticed that
> your tires have directional rotation tread.
>
> If you've not rotated your tires over the first half of their life, you
> won't gain optimum tread life by starting to rotate at this late date,
> but you will gain something. If they rotate them for free, then it's
> worth doing. If they charge you for it, then it's questionable whether
> you will have a net savings. To really benefit from rotation, it should
> be done every 5000 to 7000 miles. For most people who take decent care
> of their cars, a rule of thumb would be either every oil change or every
> other oil change depending on what you use for the change interval.
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> address with the letter 'x')


THX Bill. No my tires aren't directional and I previously have rotated X
pattern on a regular basis.
I'll now continue with the X rotation you also recommend.
The tire dealer obviously confused the directional tire rotation
recommendation.
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Old July 19th 08, 03:40 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
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Default preferred tire rotation pattern

Recently had my van in at WallyWorld for oil change & (free) tire rotation.
(I always specify the fronts going straight back & the rears crossing going
forward.) They actually paged me back to the service desk to tell me that
the tech said all the tires had exactly the same tread depth so did I really
want to rotate them. I gave the clerk "that look" and told her that the
tires were like that *because* I got them rotated regularly...

"Bill Putney" > wrote in message
...
> who wrote:
>> What is the current preferred tire rotation pattern for radial tires?
>>
>> My Chrysler owners book and Michelin give the traditional X pattern.
>> My tire dealer says definitely front to rear, which he did but that means
>> my sidewalls on the curb side take all the wear.
>>
>> My tires are about 50% worn.
>> TIA

>
> Unless you have *directional* tread pattern tires (which would be
> indicated by a label and arrow showing required direction of rotation on
> the sidewall), you should either move fronts straight back and move the
> rears to the opposite side on the front *OR* move the backs straight
> forward and move the fronts to opposite side on the rear. Choose *one* of
> those two and do that pattern consistently over the life of a given set of
> tires. That way, over the series of rotations that you will give them
> over their life, you maximize the evening out of irregular wear patterns,
> which is the purpose of rotating them (along with reducing likelihood of
> their becoming noisy and/or non-optimum handling). (If you think about
> it, with one of those two patterns, each tire will have at least one turn
> at every position over its life.)
>
> Your tire dealer is either grossly incompetent *OR* they noticed that your
> tires have directional rotation tread.
>
> If you've not rotated your tires over the first half of their life, you
> won't gain optimum tread life by starting to rotate at this late date, but
> you will gain something. If they rotate them for free, then it's worth
> doing. If they charge you for it, then it's questionable whether you will
> have a net savings. To really benefit from rotation, it should be done
> every 5000 to 7000 miles. For most people who take decent care of their
> cars, a rule of thumb would be either every oil change or every other oil
> change depending on what you use for the change interval.
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address
> with the letter 'x')



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Old July 19th 08, 01:23 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
Bill Putney
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Default preferred tire rotation pattern

Ron Seiden wrote:
> Recently had my van in at WallyWorld for oil change & (free) tire rotation.
> (I always specify the fronts going straight back & the rears crossing going
> forward.) They actually paged me back to the service desk to tell me that
> the tech said all the tires had exactly the same tread depth so did I really
> want to rotate them. I gave the clerk "that look" and told her that the
> tires were like that *because* I got them rotated regularly...


Hah hah! Great story!

Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')
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Old July 19th 08, 01:25 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
Bill Putney
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Default preferred tire rotation pattern

who wrote:

> THX Bill. No my tires aren't directional and I previously have rotated X
> pattern on a regular basis.
> I'll now continue with the X rotation you also recommend.
> The tire dealer obviously confused the directional tire rotation
> recommendation.


As long as you realize it's not an X. Only two get crossed to the other
side, the other two go straight to the other end, no crossing.

Bill Putney
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