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V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:33:11 -0700, L.W. (Bill) Hughes III wrote:
> I repeat > I repeat > I repeat > I repeat > I repeat You sure as hell do. Constantly. Including all the tons of food you consume. (Enough to feed half the starving /worthwhile/ people in the world, Mr. Methane.) And my 'Trep can still outrun ANYTHING you've got or ever will have, and you know it, too. Just one more irritating thing you're jealous of. Pbblba. -- "I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups." -- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2) -- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer |
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V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
Well, one thing you can release the clutch at idol on the I6 and you just
crawl along. If you do this with a V6 it stalls. Coasty "Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message news:Xc8Ui.21997$od4.9082@trnddc04... > The jury is out, but as a general rule the V6 makes its power at speeds > well off of idle, but the old I6 makes 80% or 90% of its torque while > idling. The result is that the old I6 makes for better rock crawling > because you can select 1st in 4LO and have more than enough power to creep > (crawl) over stuff. > > On the other hand, the V6 makes its power at speed, so it will make for a > far more pleasant commute -- where engine speeds are high, and thus > noisey. > > I can't say for certain, but the odds favor the new V6 to be a poor > performer for offroading. Having said that, the old 225 Even Fire (and, > for that matter the Odd Fire as well) were very desirable engines in the > olden days. But, when those motors were in production, they were > essentially V8s with two chopped off of one end. The point being, they had > a long stroke, which is where torque comes from. A motor with a short > stroke will produce torque further up on the RPM band, and offroaders > (rock crawlers) prefer the torque to be very low on the RPM band. It is > far better to pull a stump at idle than it is to yank it at 3000 RPM. > > > > > > "Jack Carter" > wrote in message > . .. >> Maybe you should check out the gear ratios in the 6-speed transmission >> and then take one for a test drive - preferably one with the optional >> 3.73 axles. If you're open minded - as opposed to empty headed - you >> might change your mind! >> >> >> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message >> ng.com... >>> Yup, it would appear you now have a mini van engine. No more crawling >>> up the sides of sand pits or over rocks at 400-500 rpm like the old 6 >>> would do. You now need tire spinning, hole digging, rpm to get >>> anyplace. >>> >>> Probably better on the highway. >>> >>> Mike >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>> >>> >>> Jack Carter wrote: >>>> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by >>>> Mitsubushi. Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine >>>> and that it's used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a >>>> long time. >> >> > |
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V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
Right on !!! Maybe sometime in the next millenium some of the diehards on
this board will come to their senses and realize that the World doesn't stand still. Progress has been made. Don't condemn it without trying it !! "Fred Garvin" > wrote in message ... > Jeep Stuff: > > I agree. I own 3 TJs and a 08 JK. I really enjoy the JK, on and off > road, better than the others. It's my plan is to make this the last Jeep > I own, so I dig the Lifetime warranty. I believe we'll see more folks who > *actually own* or have owned legacy Jeeps and a JK report in the same > consensus. > > Other Stuff: > > I've been away from this group for a while, but it seems that there are a > few crusty individuals that seem to say "if I'm not doing it, it ain't > right." Pink Freud *seems* to be a crazy dude, but I'm starting to think > he may have some valid points buried in his posts. And is there anyone > else here that finds it interesting (and maybe as equally neurotic) that > Bill feels a need to constantly respond to him?!? > > -Fred > > > "Jack Carter" > wrote in message > . .. >> I'm not the least bit "worried" about it - just curious. I've owned six >> Wranglers, starting with a CJ5. And I liked all of 'em. The one I traded >> in on the new one was an '03 Sport. And it was a terrific performer. But >> I like the '08 far better than any of them - off or on road, but >> admitedly especially on road. With the six-speed transmission and a >> really down-in-the-basement 1st and 2nd gears, it's a ball to drive >> anywhere. And the torque and horsepower curves seem to sum up everything >> very well. >> >> >> "ULB" > wrote in message >> ups.com... >>> On Oct 25, 7:40 am, "Jack Carter" > >>> wrote: >>>> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by >>>> Mitsubushi. >>>> Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that >>>> it's >>>> used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time. >>> >>> since you already own the vehicle, why worry about it? Especially if >>> you just bought it with the lifetime warranty. >>> >>> >> >> > |
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V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
On Oct 25, 9:02 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III"
> wrote: > I didn't see anything my '57 T-Bird couldn't easily drive. Look around > Jennifer's page for what a Jeep's made for: http://jbjeep.terahex.com/ > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > / > > "nrs" > wrote in message > > ps.com... > > > Here is the link. It is in Spanish so not everyone here will > > understand but the general consensus was that the JK did a bit > > better. You will see from the pictures that it was tough terrain and > > the vehicles were used hard. > > http://www.jeeperos.com/foros/showth...ghlight=compar... > > > > - Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I believe you. '57 Tbird, 6" lift, 33s. LOL! |
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V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
"Fred Garvin" > wrote:
> Anybody else tired of sorting through the mess laid out by these > two to get to real Jeep topics? No, not since I set up my scorefile to kill any posts and replies from the groups main troll. Windows Mail does have a kill feature, or better yet, you might consider a newsreader that enables scoring, that's what works for me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorefile -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
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V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
So...
Bring on the mini van engines! I do have the sand pit in mind within an hour of Toronto Canada for the shootout and don't mind sitting up top of the pit rim taking photos of the attempts to follow me up there. On the last shootout, we figured a TJ with 12.5's locked both front and rear 'can' follow my open diff'ed 'pizza cutter' 9.5's up the pit walls. Others, well.... got lots and lots of photos of the attempts.... I also have photos of a TJ 4.0 being 'walked' up the sand pit wall. The 'driver' from this newsgroup is literally outside walking. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... wrote: > Right on !!! Maybe sometime in the next millenium some of the diehards on > this board will come to their senses and realize that the World doesn't > stand still. Progress has been made. Don't condemn it without trying it !! > > > "Fred Garvin" > wrote in message > ... >> Jeep Stuff: >> >> I agree. I own 3 TJs and a 08 JK. I really enjoy the JK, on and off >> road, better than the others. It's my plan is to make this the last Jeep >> I own, so I dig the Lifetime warranty. I believe we'll see more folks who >> *actually own* or have owned legacy Jeeps and a JK report in the same >> consensus. >> >> Other Stuff: >> >> I've been away from this group for a while, but it seems that there are a >> few crusty individuals that seem to say "if I'm not doing it, it ain't >> right." Pink Freud *seems* to be a crazy dude, but I'm starting to think >> he may have some valid points buried in his posts. And is there anyone >> else here that finds it interesting (and maybe as equally neurotic) that >> Bill feels a need to constantly respond to him?!? >> >> -Fred >> >> >> "Jack Carter" > wrote in message >> . .. >>> I'm not the least bit "worried" about it - just curious. I've owned six >>> Wranglers, starting with a CJ5. And I liked all of 'em. The one I traded >>> in on the new one was an '03 Sport. And it was a terrific performer. But >>> I like the '08 far better than any of them - off or on road, but >>> admitedly especially on road. With the six-speed transmission and a >>> really down-in-the-basement 1st and 2nd gears, it's a ball to drive >>> anywhere. And the torque and horsepower curves seem to sum up everything >>> very well. >>> >>> >>> "ULB" > wrote in message >>> ups.com... >>>> On Oct 25, 7:40 am, "Jack Carter" > >>>> wrote: >>>>> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by >>>>> Mitsubushi. >>>>> Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that >>>>> it's >>>>> used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time. >>>> since you already own the vehicle, why worry about it? Especially if >>>> you just bought it with the lifetime warranty. >>>> >>>> >>> > > |
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V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: , , , , , for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their penis, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a terrorist. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email or Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) Hughes III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, faggot writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your pursuing fag names, as fake as you. Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW really are!!!!! God, why do these stupid queer traitors keep following me around? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O http://www.billhughes.com/ "Pink Freud©®" > wrote in message news > > You sure as hell do. > > Constantly. > > Including all the tons of food you consume. (Enough to feed half the > starving /worthwhile/ people in the world, Mr. Methane.) > > And my 'Trep can still outrun ANYTHING you've got or ever will have, and > you know it, too. > > Just one more irritating thing you're jealous of. > > Pbblba. > > -- |
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V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
Good day, My wife and I both have driven the new Jeep and find it to be a good overall vehicle both on road and off road. Although we didn't do any real hard core off road **** kicking, we did cover some pretty crazy stuff on the logging roads in behind Pemberton, the Stein divide, Litton. Plenty of power. As far as a Mitsubishi engine is concerned, I have 2 Dodge Colts AKA Mitsubishi Colts which are still going strong and one has over 250,000.00 miles and the other with 300,000.00 miles. So engine reliability isn't an issue as far as I am concerned. Mitsubishis vehicles all so do well off road in World Rallye Championship and Dakar Rally. Strange, I don't see Jeeps in the winners circle! And that is one hard core off road event. Oh and IFS too boot! Imagine that. Cheers On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:52:06 -0400, reboot > wrote: >On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:40:01 -0500, "Jack Carter" > wrote: > >>A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by Mitsubushi. >>Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's >>used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time. >> > >yes it's a mini-van motor but it isn't produced by Mitsu - in fact >Chrysler has run a Mitsu motor in more than a few years (the last i >remember was in the Sebring two generations past). > >this is a 60 degree cast iron block push rod motor and while it is >more free revving and has a higher red line than the 4.0, it is tuned >for low rpm torque. mini-van moms appreciate the same driving >characteristics that jeepers do ... torquey off the line, smooth idle, >good tip in response, not peaky or pipey torque and hp curves. > >a good source or information on JKs is found on Allpar.com > >http://www.allpar.com/model/jeep/wrangler.html > >reboot > > >--- >avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 071025-1, 10/25/2007 >Tested on: 10/25/2007 8:52:07 PM >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. >http://www.avast.com > > |
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V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
Before Corvettes became a classic and smog laws tightened there were
literally thousands in my local deserts: http://www.jtruck.net/misc/4x4cars/full/RedCorvette.jpg A little nitrous and the water pumpers honk! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O http://www.billhughes.com/ "nrs" > wrote in message oups.com... > > I believe you. '57 Tbird, 6" lift, 33s. LOL! > |
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