Hengst or Mann oil filter?

I have gone either 15,000 miles or 25,000 miles on an oil change with
that truck. Now I just need to remember when the last year was I
changed it as I do not drive it often. I did have a white oil filter
pop a pinhole leak in one of the Rabbits. Then I started using Frams
for the Rabbits. I never had a problem with oil draining out of those
filters. Now the Toyota filters are mounted horizontally. I can wait a
half hour and that filter is empty. That is a bonus.

No sludge in my engines when I remove valve covers. I suspect using
Mobil synthetic oils for the last 20+ years is why.

You know the Toyota engine as well as the VW use pretty good cast
iron. I am not so sure of GM, Ford or Chrysler. I have a customer tell
me they traded in their GM little wagon. Maybe a Cavalier size wagon.
He had 300,000 miles on that with just a few starter/alternators
changes. I suspect many cars this side of Yugos can last a long time.
Especially when you live in a warm, not in the salt area of the world.

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:42:14 -0500, "dave AKA vwdoc1"
> wrote:

>
>"Jim Behning" > wrote
>
>snip
>
>> My Toyota with 270,000 miles and no visible wear in the cylinders asks
>> "Why not use Fram?" Yes I know the answer. Toyota is such a superior
>> vehicle that uses only the finest cast iron for its blocks that it can
>> survive 20 years of crappy oil filters and Mobil 1 and still show
>> little signs of wear.
>
>Because you are a wise owner and change your oil regularly and THAT is why
>your Toy is doing so well! ;-)
>
>Info for others to read:
>http://www.knizefamily.net/minimopar...reference.html
>Also google "fram filter explode"
>I have not had a fram explode on me, but I stopped using fram oil filters
>about 20+ years ago.
>
>
>> Yes I use Mann and Mahle on my 2003 TDI with only 202,000 miles. I
>> expect if I do not change work around that that car will see 500,000
>> before I tire of it.
>>
>
>lol..............What no FRAM for the TDI! <g>

Well in your case, and mine since I don't change the oil often in my '83
Audi 4000s nor my '88 Cherokee, we can afford a better oil filter! ;-)
Gee that reminds me to change the oils in these vehicles, it is the end of
an even year! lol

I had one 2nd gen Jetta 1.8l that created so much oil pressure that it shut
the engine down. Oil filter held but I don't remember the brand. :-(

Was that a white Purolator filter that sprung a leak?
I think I had 1 Mann filter that started leaking on a 1.8t engine. I am
glad I caught it before it leaked out much.

BTW How often do you change the filter in the TDI?

"Jim Behning" > wrote in message
...
>I have gone either 15,000 miles or 25,000 miles on an oil change with
> that truck. Now I just need to remember when the last year was I
> changed it as I do not drive it often. I did have a white oil filter
> pop a pinhole leak in one of the Rabbits. Then I started using Frams
> for the Rabbits. I never had a problem with oil draining out of those
> filters. Now the Toyota filters are mounted horizontally. I can wait a
> half hour and that filter is empty. That is a bonus.
>
> No sludge in my engines when I remove valve covers. I suspect using
> Mobil synthetic oils for the last 20+ years is why.
>
> You know the Toyota engine as well as the VW use pretty good cast
> iron. I am not so sure of GM, Ford or Chrysler. I have a customer tell
> me they traded in their GM little wagon. Maybe a Cavalier size wagon.
> He had 300,000 miles on that with just a few starter/alternators
> changes. I suspect many cars this side of Yugos can last a long time.
> Especially when you live in a warm, not in the salt area of the world.
>
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:42:14 -0500, "dave AKA vwdoc1"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jim Behning" > wrote
>>
>>snip
>>
>>> My Toyota with 270,000 miles and no visible wear in the cylinders asks
>>> "Why not use Fram?" Yes I know the answer. Toyota is such a superior
>>> vehicle that uses only the finest cast iron for its blocks that it can
>>> survive 20 years of crappy oil filters and Mobil 1 and still show
>>> little signs of wear.
>>
>>Because you are a wise owner and change your oil regularly and THAT is why
>>your Toy is doing so well! ;-)
>>
>>Info for others to read:
>>http://www.knizefamily.net/minimopar...reference.html
>>Also google "fram filter explode"
>>I have not had a fram explode on me, but I stopped using fram oil filters
>>about 20+ years ago.
>>
>>
>>> Yes I use Mann and Mahle on my 2003 TDI with only 202,000 miles. I
>>> expect if I do not change work around that that car will see 500,000
>>> before I tire of it.
>>>
>>
>>lol..............What no FRAM for the TDI! <g>

TDI get new oil and filter every 10,000 miles as per book. Oil
analysis shows oil is fine at that interval and could go longer.

I guess I could use a different filter on the Toyota but my anecdotal
has shown no reason to worry. Especially since that vehicle is in
retirement with only a few thousand miles a year. Right now it seems
to have a bad tank of gas. I will drive in more to burn up that tank
so I can drain, inspect and fill with fresh fuel from one of my
regular refuel suppliers. I do have an oil change for the Toyota as I
forgot when I changed it last. I just changed the oil in the John
Deere. I thought I had a new filter for the JD but I did not. Given
that I don't use that but 30 hours or less a year I doubt there is
much dirt trapped in it. I did drain the oil out of the filter though.
I will install a fresh filter next time I go by the JD store.

I think it may have been a Puralotor.

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:19:27 -0500, "dave AKA vwdoc1"
> wrote:

>Well in your case, and mine since I don't change the oil often in my '83
>Audi 4000s nor my '88 Cherokee, we can afford a better oil filter! ;-)
>Gee that reminds me to change the oils in these vehicles, it is the end of
>an even year! lol
>
>I had one 2nd gen Jetta 1.8l that created so much oil pressure that it shut
>the engine down. Oil filter held but I don't remember the brand. :-(
>
>Was that a white Purolator filter that sprung a leak?
>I think I had 1 Mann filter that started leaking on a 1.8t engine. I am
>glad I caught it before it leaked out much.
>
>BTW How often do you change the filter in the TDI?
>
>"Jim Behning" > wrote in message
.. .
>>I have gone either 15,000 miles or 25,000 miles on an oil change with
>> that truck. Now I just need to remember when the last year was I
>> changed it as I do not drive it often. I did have a white oil filter
>> pop a pinhole leak in one of the Rabbits. Then I started using Frams
>> for the Rabbits. I never had a problem with oil draining out of those
>> filters. Now the Toyota filters are mounted horizontally. I can wait a
>> half hour and that filter is empty. That is a bonus.
>>
>> No sludge in my engines when I remove valve covers. I suspect using
>> Mobil synthetic oils for the last 20+ years is why.
>>
>> You know the Toyota engine as well as the VW use pretty good cast
>> iron. I am not so sure of GM, Ford or Chrysler. I have a customer tell
>> me they traded in their GM little wagon. Maybe a Cavalier size wagon.
>> He had 300,000 miles on that with just a few starter/alternators
>> changes. I suspect many cars this side of Yugos can last a long time.
>> Especially when you live in a warm, not in the salt area of the world.
>>
>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:42:14 -0500, "dave AKA vwdoc1"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Jim Behning" > wrote
>>>
>>>snip
>>>
>>>> My Toyota with 270,000 miles and no visible wear in the cylinders asks
>>>> "Why not use Fram?" Yes I know the answer. Toyota is such a superior
>>>> vehicle that uses only the finest cast iron for its blocks that it can
>>>> survive 20 years of crappy oil filters and Mobil 1 and still show
>>>> little signs of wear.
>>>
>>>Because you are a wise owner and change your oil regularly and THAT is why
>>>your Toy is doing so well! ;-)
>>>
>>>Info for others to read:
>>>http://www.knizefamily.net/minimopar...reference.html
>>>Also google "fram filter explode"
>>>I have not had a fram explode on me, but I stopped using fram oil filters
>>>about 20+ years ago.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes I use Mann and Mahle on my 2003 TDI with only 202,000 miles. I
>>>> expect if I do not change work around that that car will see 500,000
>>>> before I tire of it.
>>>>
>>>
>>>lol..............What no FRAM for the TDI! <g>
>

Hengst makes OEM oil filtration systems for Mercedes A-class and Audi
S4 V8 5V. So maybe the Hengst only shows up in newer VWs (incl. 3.6L
VR6).

http://www.hengst.de/conpresso/_rubr...tems__Oi l_EN






On Oct 13, 5:30*am, Jim Behning
> wrote:
> I have never seen Hengst from *my vendors. I always get Mann or Mahle.
> I buy oil filters in the 6 or 10 pack. Whatever the quantitly of bulk
> is. I buy stuff for my TDI at TDI related sites. Or for the gasser I
> usewww.parts4vw.comorwww.germanautoparts.comA lot of the online
> places are not really VW oriented parts places. The TDI sites or the
> two I listed seem to actually own and repair VWs. Many of the other
> places are no more VW oriented than NAPA or Advanced or Pep Boys.

I see. I know that VW tries to have at least 2 sources for many
things. I gather there are two vendors for the sunroof mechanism in my
car. I just never heard of Hengst but I live in a small world.

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:33:59 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

>Hengst makes OEM oil filtration systems for Mercedes A-class and Audi
>S4 V8 5V. So maybe the Hengst only shows up in newer VWs (incl. 3.6L
>VR6).
>
>http://www.hengst.de/conpresso/_rubr...tems__Oi l_EN
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Oct 13, 5:30*am, Jim Behning
> wrote:
>> I have never seen Hengst from *my vendors. I always get Mann or Mahle.
>> I buy oil filters in the 6 or 10 pack. Whatever the quantitly of bulk
>> is. I buy stuff for my TDI at TDI related sites. Or for the gasser I
>> usewww.parts4vw.comorwww.germanautoparts.comA lot of the online
>> places are not really VW oriented parts places. The TDI sites or the
>> two I listed seem to actually own and repair VWs. Many of the other
>> places are no more VW oriented than NAPA or Advanced or Pep Boys.