{{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition

On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:34:22 -0500, Wickeddoll wrote:

>
> "sharx35" ...
>>
>> "Wickeddoll" ...
>>>
>>> "Dave L"
>>>>> "dbu'"
>>>>>>> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>>>>>>> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
>>>>>>> >> >> they were
>>>>>>> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Way cool!
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
>>>>>>> >> > drove
>>>>>>> >> > up
>>>>>>> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf
>>>>>>> >> > had no
>>>>>>> >> > desire to go with him!).
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > -Dave
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they
>>>>>>> >> did that,
>>>>>>> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
>>>>>>> >> them
>>>>>>> >> all.
>>>>>>> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> :-)
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Natalie
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>>>>>>> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
>>>>>>> that, I
>>>>>>> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>>>>>>> happens
>>>>>>> to their own remains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
>>>>> exhibit, when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>>>>> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
>>>>> and practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>>>>>
>>>>> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>>>>> that these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
>>>>> people should probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very
>>>>> respectful of the displays.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>>>>> healthy lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box,
>>>>> in which you can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them
>>>>> there! LOL Who knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed
>>>>> smoke-free, but at least it got their attention.
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Natalie
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I thought the displays of a smoker's lungs vs. healthy lungs would
>>>> have grabbed some attention. It was amazing on the "how" they did that.
>>>> At least it didn't smell like formaldehyde (from what I remember). I
>>>> remember taking a look in one of my brother's college classes - a room
>>>> of cadavers being examined and dissected. Came out of there still
>>>> smelling the formaldehyde...
>>>>
>>>> -Dave
>>>>
>>>
>>> Gawd, autopsies used to gross me out - not because of the sights, but the
>>> sounds.
>>>
>>> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
>>> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
>>> body starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
>>> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking.
>>> It's a horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>>>
>>> *shudder*
>>>
>>> Natalie
>>
>> In Alberta, the law requires that the body be in a closed container when
>> inserted into the crematory.
>>
>
> That's probably true here too, but that would burn a lot more quickly than
> bone, I would think.
>
> Natalie

The bone burns (turns to charcoal, basically, at 1400-1800 Fahrenheit),
but basically keeps its shape. The remains are frequently transferred to a
separate cylindrical container with hardened steel balls inside, and the
whole container is then rotated until the bone is broken down into very
small fragments.



--
Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts
on the unthinking.

-John Maynard Keynes, economist (1883-1946)

On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:09:29 -0800, L.W.(ßill)Hughes III wrote:

> Thanks God for Jeep, the ones made by Willys, and Ford.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>
> http://www.billhughes.com/jeep_bookmark.htm


Another dumbass comment made by the resident dumbass.


>
>
> "Socks" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>>
>> One word.
>>
>> GERMAN

--
Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts
on the unthinking.

-John Maynard Keynes, economist (1883-1946)

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:35:36 +0000, Pink Freud©® wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:06:22 -0800, L.W.(ßill)Hughes III wrote:
>
>> A young Canadian soldier was attending some college courses between
>> assignments
>>
>> He had also completed missions in Afghanistan.
>>
>> One of the courses had a professor who was a vowed atheist. One day the
>> professor shocked the class when he came in. He Looked to the ceiling and
>> flatly stated, 'God, if you are real, then I want you to knock me off this
>> platform. I'll give you exactly 15 minutes.'
>>
>> The lecture room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop. Ten minutes went by
>> and the professor proclaimed, 'Here I am God. I'm still waiting.' It got
>> down to the last couple of minutes when the young soldier got out of his
>> Chair, went up to the professor, and cold-cocked him; knocking him off the
>> platform. The professor was out cold. The young man went back to his seat
>> and sat there, silently. The other students were shocked and stunned and sat
>> there looking on in silence.
>>
>> The professor eventually came to, noticeably shaken, looked at the soldier
>> and asked, 'What the hell is the matter with! you? Why did you do that?'
>>
>> Came the reply,
>>
>> 'God was too busy today protecting our soldiers who are protecting your
>> right to talk stupid and act like an asshole. So, He sent me'
>
>
> Untrue folktale; dates to at least 1820 Pennsylvania.
>
> Original 'kicker' was for g0d to keep a piece of chalk from breaking when
> the professor dropped it.
>
> Funny story that never happened.


Make that 1920 Pennsylvania.


>
>
>>
>> --
>> God Break Bill Hughes O|||||||O
>>
>> http://www.billhughes.com/jeep_bookmark.htm
>>
>>
>> "Socks" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm an atheist and a Dutchman to boot.

--
Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts
on the unthinking.

-John Maynard Keynes, economist (1883-1946)

"Pink Freud©®" <
, Wickeddoll wrote:
>
>>
>> "sharx35" ...
>>>> "Dave L"
>>>>>> "dbu'"
>>>>>>>> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>>>>>>>> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
>>>>>>>> >> >> they were
>>>>>>>> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> Way cool!
>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when
>>>>>>>> >> > I
>>>>>>>> >> > drove
>>>>>>>> >> > up
>>>>>>>> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf
>>>>>>>> >> > had no
>>>>>>>> >> > desire to go with him!).
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> > -Dave
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they
>>>>>>>> >> did that,
>>>>>>>> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
>>>>>>>> >> them
>>>>>>>> >> all.
>>>>>>>> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> :-)
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Natalie
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>>>>>>>> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> that, I
>>>>>>>> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>>>>>>>> happens
>>>>>>>> to their own remains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to
>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
>>>>>> exhibit, when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>>>>>> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
>>>>>> and practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>>>>>> that these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
>>>>>> people should probably skip it. I thought everything they did was
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> respectful of the displays.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>>>>>> healthy lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear
>>>>>> box,
>>>>>> in which you can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> there! LOL Who knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed
>>>>>> smoke-free, but at least it got their attention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I thought the displays of a smoker's lungs vs. healthy lungs
>>>>> would
>>>>> have grabbed some attention. It was amazing on the "how" they did
>>>>> that.
>>>>> At least it didn't smell like formaldehyde (from what I remember). I
>>>>> remember taking a look in one of my brother's college classes - a room
>>>>> of cadavers being examined and dissected. Came out of there still
>>>>> smelling the formaldehyde...
>>>>>
>>>>> -Dave
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gawd, autopsies used to gross me out - not because of the sights, but
>>>> the
>>>> sounds.
>>>>
>>>> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
>>>> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
>>>> body starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're
>>>> dead)
>>>> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking.
>>>> It's a horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>>>>
>>>> *shudder*
>>>>
>>>> Natalie
>>>
>>> In Alberta, the law requires that the body be in a closed container when
>>> inserted into the crematory.
>>>
>>
>> That's probably true here too, but that would burn a lot more quickly
>> than
>> bone, I would think.
>>
>> Natalie
>
> The bone burns (turns to charcoal, basically, at 1400-1800 Fahrenheit),
> but basically keeps its shape. The remains are frequently transferred to a
> separate cylindrical container with hardened steel balls inside, and the
> whole container is then rotated until the bone is broken down into very
> small fragments.
>

Ah, thanks.

Natalie

"Pink Freud©®" > wrote in message
news
> On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:34:22 -0500, Wickeddoll wrote:
>
>>
>> "sharx35" ...
>>>
>>> "Wickeddoll" ...
>>>>
>>>> "Dave L"
>>>>>> "dbu'"
>>>>>>>> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>>>>>>>> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
>>>>>>>> >> >> they were
>>>>>>>> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> Way cool!
>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when
>>>>>>>> >> > I
>>>>>>>> >> > drove
>>>>>>>> >> > up
>>>>>>>> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf
>>>>>>>> >> > had no
>>>>>>>> >> > desire to go with him!).
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> > -Dave
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they
>>>>>>>> >> did that,
>>>>>>>> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
>>>>>>>> >> them
>>>>>>>> >> all.
>>>>>>>> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> :-)
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Natalie
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>>>>>>>> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> that, I
>>>>>>>> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>>>>>>>> happens
>>>>>>>> to their own remains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to
>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
>>>>>> exhibit, when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>>>>>> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
>>>>>> and practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>>>>>> that these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
>>>>>> people should probably skip it. I thought everything they did was
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> respectful of the displays.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>>>>>> healthy lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear
>>>>>> box,
>>>>>> in which you can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> there! LOL Who knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed
>>>>>> smoke-free, but at least it got their attention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I thought the displays of a smoker's lungs vs. healthy lungs
>>>>> would
>>>>> have grabbed some attention. It was amazing on the "how" they did
>>>>> that.
>>>>> At least it didn't smell like formaldehyde (from what I remember). I
>>>>> remember taking a look in one of my brother's college classes - a room
>>>>> of cadavers being examined and dissected. Came out of there still
>>>>> smelling the formaldehyde...
>>>>>
>>>>> -Dave
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gawd, autopsies used to gross me out - not because of the sights, but
>>>> the
>>>> sounds.
>>>>
>>>> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
>>>> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
>>>> body starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're
>>>> dead)
>>>> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking.
>>>> It's a horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>>>>
>>>> *shudder*
>>>>
>>>> Natalie
>>>
>>> In Alberta, the law requires that the body be in a closed container when
>>> inserted into the crematory.
>>>
>>
>> That's probably true here too, but that would burn a lot more quickly
>> than
>> bone, I would think.
>>
>> Natalie
>
> The bone burns (turns to charcoal, basically, at 1400-1800 Fahrenheit),
> but basically keeps its shape. The remains are frequently transferred to a
> separate cylindrical container with hardened steel balls inside, and the
> whole container is then rotated until the bone is broken down into very
> small fragments.

Then, and only then, are the "cremains" suitable for scattering. To not
pulverize them would create a situation where the scatterers of the ashes
would be freaked out.



>
>
>
> --
> Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts
> on the unthinking.
>
> -John Maynard Keynes, economist (1883-1946)
>

L.W.(ßill)Hughes III wrote:
> A young Canadian soldier was attending some college courses between
> assignments
>
> He had also completed missions in Afghanistan.
>
> One of the courses had a professor who was a vowed atheist. One day the
> professor shocked the class when he came in. He Looked to the ceiling and
> flatly stated, 'God, if you are real, then I want you to knock me off this
> platform. I'll give you exactly 15 minutes.'
>
> The lecture room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop. Ten minutes went by
> and the professor proclaimed, 'Here I am God. I'm still waiting.' It got
> down to the last couple of minutes when the young soldier got out of his
> Chair, went up to the professor, and cold-cocked him; knocking him off the
> platform. The professor was out cold. The young man went back to his seat
> and sat there, silently. The other students were shocked and stunned and sat
> there looking on in silence.
>
> The professor eventually came to, noticeably shaken, looked at the soldier
> and asked, 'What the hell is the matter with! you? Why did you do that?'
>
> Came the reply,
>
> 'God was too busy today protecting our soldiers who are protecting your
> right to talk stupid and act like an asshole. So, He sent me'
>

Uh, so you think a guy who attacks people for no reason and hears God
talking to him is a good role model? Good one, Hughesie.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:46:00 -0800, Some Guy
> wrote:

>L.W.(ßill)Hughes III wrote:
>> A young Canadian soldier was attending some college courses between
>> assignments
>>
>> He had also completed missions in Afghanistan.
>>
>> One of the courses had a professor who was a vowed atheist. One day the
>> professor shocked the class when he came in. He Looked to the ceiling and
>> flatly stated, 'God, if you are real, then I want you to knock me off this
>> platform. I'll give you exactly 15 minutes.'
>>
>> The lecture room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop. Ten minutes went by
>> and the professor proclaimed, 'Here I am God. I'm still waiting.' It got
>> down to the last couple of minutes when the young soldier got out of his
>> Chair, went up to the professor, and cold-cocked him; knocking him off the
>> platform. The professor was out cold. The young man went back to his seat
>> and sat there, silently. The other students were shocked and stunned and sat
>> there looking on in silence.
>>
>> The professor eventually came to, noticeably shaken, looked at the soldier
>> and asked, 'What the hell is the matter with! you? Why did you do that?'
>>
>> Came the reply,
>>
>> 'God was too busy today protecting our soldiers who are protecting your
>> right to talk stupid and act like an asshole. So, He sent me'
>>
>
>Uh, so you think a guy who attacks people for no reason and hears God
>talking to him is a good role model? Good one, Hughesie.

Well said.
I personally think that religion is a crutch for man kind and that
most people who buy into it are week minded.

Socks wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:46:00 -0800, Some Guy
> > wrote:
>
>> L.W.(ßill)Hughes III wrote:
>>> A young Canadian soldier was attending some college courses between
>>> assignments
>>>
>>> He had also completed missions in Afghanistan.
>>>
>>> One of the courses had a professor who was a vowed atheist. One day the
>>> professor shocked the class when he came in. He Looked to the ceiling and
>>> flatly stated, 'God, if you are real, then I want you to knock me off this
>>> platform. I'll give you exactly 15 minutes.'
>>>
>>> The lecture room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop. Ten minutes went by
>>> and the professor proclaimed, 'Here I am God. I'm still waiting.' It got
>>> down to the last couple of minutes when the young soldier got out of his
>>> Chair, went up to the professor, and cold-cocked him; knocking him off the
>>> platform. The professor was out cold. The young man went back to his seat
>>> and sat there, silently. The other students were shocked and stunned and sat
>>> there looking on in silence.
>>>
>>> The professor eventually came to, noticeably shaken, looked at the soldier
>>> and asked, 'What the hell is the matter with! you? Why did you do that?'
>>>
>>> Came the reply,
>>>
>>> 'God was too busy today protecting our soldiers who are protecting your
>>> right to talk stupid and act like an asshole. So, He sent me'
>>>
>> Uh, so you think a guy who attacks people for no reason and hears God
>> talking to him is a good role model? Good one, Hughesie.
>
> Well said.
> I personally think that religion is a crutch for man kind and that
> most people who buy into it are week minded.

I don't have a problem with religion, but I do have a problem with
people using religion to justify actions they shouldn't, this joke being
a case in point. And, for that matter, Hughes.