Floor Jack Recommendation?

aetmos wrote:
> On Mar 5, 10:31 am, "L.W.\(ßill\)Hughes III"
> > wrote:
>> They were pre- Chinese. The old shops we see still have their original
>> 1920s vintage.
>
>
> Yeah, the Chinese Craftsman jacks seem to be crap. I almost chalked my
> experience up to bad luck and bought another one because they were on
> sale a week ago, but then I read the reviews online. Seems just about
> everyone has the exact same problem. The seals blow out, sometimes
> within a few months...I guess I had pretty good luck with it lasting 4
> years. Then again, I'm no professional. I only use it maybe 10 times a
> year. Are there still any "Made in the USA" or at least "Made
> Somewhere with Good Quality Control Standards" floor jacks?
>
>> With a proper floor jack, I only have to raise my axle 2" or so to
>> change a tire, not jack the bumper 3' or more in the air to get the
>> spring loaded wheel up off the ground.
>
> I've always wondered if it's okay to lift it by the axle. I always
> lift from the jack points on the frame. Good to know I can use the
> axle. Though, not on the pumpkin, I guess.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom

Correct, the pumpkin appears to be dangerous on some of the new units,
they can't hold the vehicle's weight.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com

Can't go wrong the http://www.billhughes.com/temp/WJjackPoints.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O


"aetmos" > wrote in message
...

Yeah, the Chinese Craftsman jacks seem to be crap. I almost chalked my
experience up to bad luck and bought another one because they were on
sale a week ago, but then I read the reviews online. Seems just about
everyone has the exact same problem. The seals blow out, sometimes
within a few months...I guess I had pretty good luck with it lasting 4
years. Then again, I'm no professional. I only use it maybe 10 times a
year. Are there still any "Made in the USA" or at least "Made
Somewhere with Good Quality Control Standards" floor jacks?

I've always wondered if it's okay to lift it by the axle. I always
lift from the jack points on the frame. Good to know I can use the
axle. Though, not on the pumpkin, I guess.

Thanks,
Tom



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On Mar 5, 11:43*am, "L.W.\(ßill\)Hughes III"
> wrote:
> * * * Can't go wrong thehttp://www.billhughes.com/temp/WJjackPoints.pdf


Wait, this seems to be saying no to jack up a Jeep on the axle. So the
frame is the only safe lift point?

Thanks,
Tom

"aetmos" > wrote in message
...
> On Mar 5, 11:43 am, "L.W.\(ßill\)Hughes III"
> > wrote:
>> Can't go wrong thehttp://www.billhughes.com/temp/WJjackPoints.pdf
>
>
> Wait, this seems to be saying no to jack up a Jeep on the axle. So the
> frame is the only safe lift point?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom

That's what it says. I gotta be skeptical that the axle tubes can't handle
it, but that's what it says. The danger is probably that people will put
them too far inboard, and the cheap aluminum pumpkin will stress out. Or
maybe, you know how clumsy some people are, that the axle tube would slip
off the jack pad. I put a jack under the U-bolts or shock hangers on my
Wrangler, but you don't have a Wrangler. Hell I put it under the pumpkin
sometimes, but I have a steel pumpkin.

My Chinese Craftsman jack lasted at least thirteen years, and I picked up
lots of things with it that I guess shouldn't have. It still works, but it
leaks.

Cheers,

Earle


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Earle Horton wrote:
> "aetmos" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mar 5, 11:43 am, "L.W.\(ßill\)Hughes III"
>> > wrote:
>>> Can't go wrong thehttp://www.billhughes.com/temp/WJjackPoints.pdf
>>
>>
>> Wait, this seems to be saying no to jack up a Jeep on the axle. So the
>> frame is the only safe lift point?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>
> That's what it says. I gotta be skeptical that the axle tubes can't
> handle it, but that's what it says. The danger is probably that people
> will put them too far inboard, and the cheap aluminum pumpkin will
> stress out. Or maybe, you know how clumsy some people are, that the
> axle tube would slip off the jack pad. I put a jack under the U-bolts
> or shock hangers on my Wrangler, but you don't have a Wrangler. Hell I
> put it under the pumpkin sometimes, but I have a steel pumpkin.
>
> My Chinese Craftsman jack lasted at least thirteen years, and I picked
> up lots of things with it that I guess shouldn't have. It still works,
> but it leaks.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>

Ya but that is not what it 'shows' in the diagram 'and' it's thee
aluminum WJ one they are referring to. The diagram shows the rear axle
tubes or the spring mounts being used in the rear.

Does the person asking have a WJ? If not....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com

Good day,
Back in 1985 my whole family pooled together and bought me a
wretchedly expensive SnapOn Long chassis service jack(Floor jack).
10 ton lifting capacity and a 27 inch maximum lift capacity.
I have treated this piece of equipment like it's an investment and
have religiously serviced and maintained it over the last 20 years.
Granted, they spent well over $1000.00 to $1500.00 back then.
The old saying "You get what you pay for!" Holds true.

Ry'

"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
ng.com...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "aetmos" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mar 5, 11:43 am, "L.W.\(ßill\)Hughes III"
>>> > wrote:
>>>> Can't go wrong thehttp://www.billhughes.com/temp/WJjackPoints.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> Wait, this seems to be saying no to jack up a Jeep on the axle. So the
>>> frame is the only safe lift point?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom
>>
>> That's what it says. I gotta be skeptical that the axle tubes can't
>> handle it, but that's what it says. The danger is probably that people
>> will put them too far inboard, and the cheap aluminum pumpkin will stress
>> out. Or maybe, you know how clumsy some people are, that the axle tube
>> would slip off the jack pad. I put a jack under the U-bolts or shock
>> hangers on my Wrangler, but you don't have a Wrangler. Hell I put it
>> under the pumpkin sometimes, but I have a steel pumpkin.
>>
>> My Chinese Craftsman jack lasted at least thirteen years, and I picked up
>> lots of things with it that I guess shouldn't have. It still works, but
>> it leaks.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>
> Ya but that is not what it 'shows' in the diagram 'and' it's thee aluminum
> WJ one they are referring to. The diagram shows the rear axle tubes or
> the spring mounts being used in the rear.
>
> Does the person asking have a WJ? If not....
>
His wife's got some kind of GC. These threads do get long sometimes.

Earle

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"noneofyourbusiness" > wrote in message
...
>
> I've never heard anyone else decry the value of a Hi-lift jack.
> (You WERE referring to those common jacks many off-roaders have on
> their bumpers, right?...if not, "nevermind"!)
>
> I got a flat tire this weekend (out by the Salton Sea), and for some
> reason thought it was a bad idea to put the stock Jeep floor jack
> under the axle. After maxing the jacks travel (while under the frame),
> it came up half an inch short of getting the spare tire on
>
> Used my friends Hi-lift jack (placed in a notched area along the edge
> of the body) to get the Jeep lifted the last inch or so.
>
> Other than some minor denting in the door (fender?) panel, it worked
> just fine.
>



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Hi Earle,
It's an 04:

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"Earle Horton" > wrote in message news:fqnio5$4m7
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>
> His wife's got some kind of GC. These threads do get long sometimes.
>
> Earle
>



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Yes, it's an '04 Grand Cherokee, so yes, a WJ. From the picture, I
guess it's okay to jack it up from the outer edge of the rear axle,
but not the front. I suppose that makes sense, since the front is
likely heavier...

Thanks,
Tom

On Mar 5, 8:48*pm, "L.W.\(ßill\)Hughes III"
> wrote:
> Hi Earle,
> * * It's an
> * * * * God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> * * * *
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>
> "Earle Horton" > wrote in message news:fqnio5$4m7
>
> > His wife's got some kind of GC. *These threads do get long sometimes.
>
> > Earle
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