4 cyl. mileage, lift & tire size

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 04:35:06 GMT, Bryan wrote:
>
> What kind of real world mpg are the 6 cyl.'s getting?

My mileage has ranged from 13.6 mpg to 20 mpg with the lifetime
average at 16.1 mpg right now. This is an '05 Sport picked up in the
middle of December, currently with ~3500 miles on it.

Note that the cold and the snow around here reduce gas mileage. (an
old car I drove one winter was getting 20 in Dec. before it got real
cold, but only got 15 the whole winter) The last few tanks have given
me better mileage than the earlier ones did.

> Every mile counts as I do a lot of driving as part of my job and every penny
> in the tank is one less in my pocket.
> So far I am satisfied with the performance of the 4 cyl., even here in the
> mountains.
>
> Do the 6 cyl. motors get into the 20's on mileage?

No, but its really hard to stall it and the torque is great :-). It
pulls like a truck, not like a ricer!

-D

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My 86 CJ7 with the 4.2 gets a nice 23 US mpg highway very consistently.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Bryan wrote:
>
> What kind of real world mpg are the 6 cyl.'s getting?
> Every mile counts as I do a lot of driving as part of my job and every penny
> in the tank is one less in my pocket.
> So far I am satisfied with the performance of the 4 cyl., even here in the
> mountains.
>
> Do the 6 cyl. motors get into the 20's on mileage?
>
> Bryan
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I wish you had bought a six.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > http://www.billhughes.com/

Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
> as soon as i find a lift that triangulates front
> and rear (so that i can throw my track bars away) ill be lifting my '05.

Hello bumpsteer.

You're not going to find a "manufactured" lift kit with a triangulated
front. Would be stupid for anyone to sell cuz it would leave the rig
handling like s*&t.

Any hard core rock crawling rigs you see with a triangulated front are
using full hydraulic steering (hydraulic pump, self centering orbital
valve, and a double ended cylinder (ram)).....or they're 100% trail
only, and it doesn't matter if it handles like s*&t, or thirdly, it's a
wicked booty fab rig that no sane person would drive.

Without full hydro, you have a drag link going from the steering box to
the passenger side knuckle, and the track bar matches the draglink to
make sure the axle follows a path such that axle travel occurs in such a
way as to not promote bumpsteer.

Not to be a downer, but don't hold your breath for a triangulated front kit.

Cheers,
Paul

Same Chrylser engine being used in the PT Cruiser, Neon, and others.
Though I think the Neon may be down to a 2.0L now.....

Paul

k_902 wrote:
> I was wondering since JEEP dropped the 2.5 l4 for a 2.4 l4. Who's making
> this engine??? I've heard of alot of cars now using a 2.4 l4, turning out to
> be a popular choice...
>

31's, 4cyl's, and hills just don't go together. I've had my 99 TJ SE for
about 2.5 years now. I've done multi-day road trips, hills, rocks, mud...
just about everything. I've had stock tires, 31s, and now 33s.

Leave the stock size on there if you want stock performance. When I went
from 31s to stock (came with 31s used -- got free stockers) I noticed a HUGE
difference. When I went from 31s to 33s, again, a HUGE difference. That
said, I have enough little tweaks to make my 33s liveable. I still use 5th
gear all the time (just not on hills) and get 18mpg on average in the city.
I haven't done any major road trips since putting on the 33s to say what my
highway mileage is (but I think it's worse -- have to continuously downshift
if there's a headwind or hills -- causes much higher RPMs). I also have a
4" lift, so that may affect my mileage negatively.

By the way Bill -- plenty of rock crawling and no broken D35 yet. I just
air down to about 10 psi for maximum traction and take it easy over the
obstacles. :-) Of course when my locker gets here, I may be sending you
pics to post. We'll see...

Eric
99 TJ SE


"Bryan" > wrote in message
...
>I have been lurking around here for a while, and last week I took the
>plunge and bought my first Wrangler, a new '05 4 cyl. 6-speed SE.
> Initial cost and mpg were very important, as this will be my daily driver
> and I cover a lot of ground.
>
> After my initial outing in mud (the day after I drove the new jeep home),
> I observed two things that I would like to change but I do not want to
> kill my mpg (23mpg so far, but it is not broken in yet, hoping for more).
> The two changes are that I would like to add 2-3" of lift, and a bigger
> tire (215/75 stock). Hoping for around 3-4" of lift total including the
> tires.
>
> I was thinking of coil spacers and 235/75 tire, or perhaps a 30x9.50
> I wouldn't even mind a 31x10.50 if it wouldn't kill my gearing (live in
> the mountains of WV, got to be able to pull up those hills).
> Though I realize the 31's will fit without a lift, I want the lift to get
> a little extra clearance at the rear so I won't drag my receiver as I need
> to be able to tow a small utility trailer from time to time. On the first
> outing I manage to drag the receiver while backing up, lost the little
> "JEEP" plug that goes in there. Had to turn around the next day and drive
> all the way back up in the mountains and retrieve it.
> Poor me, having to go 4 wheelin' again !
> :-)
>
> Anyone here had any experience with this?
> What is the most reasonable and inexpensive way to get that 2-3" of lift?
> What about increasing tire size?
> How did it affect your mpg?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bryan
>
>

Your four doesn't have enough power to break the puny Dana 35c. Do
you see any four cylinders, he http://www.billhughes.com/dana35c/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O


Eric wrote:
>
> 31's, 4cyl's, and hills just don't go together. I've had my 99 TJ SE for
> about 2.5 years now. I've done multi-day road trips, hills, rocks, mud...
> just about everything. I've had stock tires, 31s, and now 33s.
>
> Leave the stock size on there if you want stock performance. When I went
> from 31s to stock (came with 31s used -- got free stockers) I noticed a HUGE
> difference. When I went from 31s to 33s, again, a HUGE difference. That
> said, I have enough little tweaks to make my 33s liveable. I still use 5th
> gear all the time (just not on hills) and get 18mpg on average in the city.
> I haven't done any major road trips since putting on the 33s to say what my
> highway mileage is (but I think it's worse -- have to continuously downshift
> if there's a headwind or hills -- causes much higher RPMs). I also have a
> 4" lift, so that may affect my mileage negatively.
>
> By the way Bill -- plenty of rock crawling and no broken D35 yet. I just
> air down to about 10 psi for maximum traction and take it easy over the
> obstacles. :-) Of course when my locker gets here, I may be sending you
> pics to post. We'll see...
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE

i just filled up (after second full tank) on my '05 rubicon. 11.6 around
town, little to no interstate driving on that tank. :-(

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"k_902" > wrote in message
...
>I was wondering since JEEP dropped the 2.5 l4 for a 2.4 l4. Who's making
> this engine??? I've heard of alot of cars now using a 2.4 l4

its all part of dieters cross platform plan. the engine came over from the
dodge neon.

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"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> Drive no faster than fifty five.

.....youve never visited montana, huh bill? :-)

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"Paul Keating" > wrote in message
. ..
> You're not going to find a "manufactured" lift kit with a triangulated
> front. Would be stupid for anyone to sell cuz it would leave the rig
> handling like s*&t.

http://rockcrawler.com/features/news...raflex_lcg.asp im
waiting on it to prove itself in the field a little before spending the
money, but its said to handle awesome on the highway. i guess only time
will tell.

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