Ford Fusion reverse gear

On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:43:35 -0500, Toyota MDT in MO wrote:

> Alan Mac Farlane wrote:
>> Jim Warman wrote:
>> >
>> There are no noises from the transmission. The car has only 21,000
>> miles on it.
>>
>>
>> take it back to the factory shop ... don't think it will cost you a
>> thing ... warrenty thingy as it must be a new car even if it is a 2006
>> would think.
>>
>> wow ... what a buy kinda sort of thing.
>>
>> 3 years old and only what ... 500 miles a month roadwork so far.
>>
>> on the face of it ... you got a good deal and it is worth keeping
>> around perhaps.
>>
>> sumbuddie just making wild guess now
>>
>> :?
>>
>>
> ? indeed. Did your post have a point?

I *THINK* he was telling him to take it do the dealer and try to press for
warranty repair. I know Toyota now has 3 years, 36,000 miles, and if they
have a warranty like that on good cars, Ford must cover them for life...


*STOP THE FLAMES!!!* I like Fords. Except Focuses. Cool car with the
reliablitiy of a Volkswagen...

"Alan Mac Farlane" > wrote in message
...
> Mike Walsh wrote:
>> The reverse gear on my 2006 Ford Fusion 5 speed manual transmission will
>> not engage. This happened after a problem occurred while parallel
>> parking. I had the transmission in reverse, then moved the shifter to put
>> it in neutral and let out the clutch. But the transmission did not go
>> into neutral. The engine did not simply stall as if it was in reverse,
>> but there was a dreadful noise like gears grinding. Now the transmission
>> will not go into reverse at all. Is there any hope of getting this
>> working without tearing the transmission apart.
>>
>
>
> only if you lost the linkage ... between the tranny and the steering post
> or tranny shift lever.

A problem as old as the hills with manual transmissions has always been that
some owners are "Gorilla Monsoons" who will apply a great deal of FORCE to
"MAKE" the vehicle go into the gear when it doesn't want to. You see linkage
that looks like a pretzel, or you see the synchro gears either stripped or
forced out of place. Usually you see that on older 4 speeds with Harry
Hotrod types. BUT we have some Scooter owners who try to do things in
shifting that are incredible. My step son has a new Honda S-1. The kid
managed to MANGLE the clutch mechanism to the tune of $2 in less than 5K
miles. He thought he was a RACE DRIVER. He managed to get it fixed under
warranty, but I knew what he did. I have seen him drive. He loves to
power-shift but the WRONG WAY.

No telling what it is - it may well be internal in the transmission, OR it
may be screwed up linkage. If it is the linkage - I'd suggest the driver
take some LESSONS.

"Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク" > wrote in message
news
>
> *STOP THE FLAMES!!!* I like Fords. Except Focuses. Cool car with the
> reliablitiy of a Volkswagen...

I guess it depends upon how you feel about VWs. I am very disappointed that
VW has not stepped up to the plate and proven that German technology can
equal or better that of Japanese.

On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:27:08 -0500, HLS wrote:

>
> "Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク" > wrote in message
> news >
>>
>> *STOP THE FLAMES!!!* I like Fords. Except Focuses. Cool car with the
>> reliablitiy of a Volkswagen...
>
> I guess it depends upon how you feel about VWs. I am very disappointed that
> VW has not stepped up to the plate and proven that German technology can
> equal or better that of Japanese.


Hey! NO PROBLEM with the Technology! German engineering is fantastic! My
brand-new '85 Jetta only had 85 HP, but felt like a lot more, had room in
the trunk for 3 bodies, could carry 5 comfortably and had features found
on cars thousands of dollars more!

They should just hand the designs over to the Japanese and let them screw
'em together!

"Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク" > wrote in message
news
>
> Hey! NO PROBLEM with the Technology! German engineering is fantastic! My
> brand-new '85 Jetta only had 85 HP, but felt like a lot more, had room in
> the trunk for 3 bodies, could carry 5 comfortably and had features found
> on cars thousands of dollars more!
>
> They should just hand the designs over to the Japanese and let them screw
> 'em together!
>
>


VW has had persistent quality problems, and corporate always backs the
dealerships
who take responsibility for NOTHING.

VW has the ability to make a really great car. They just dont always do it.

Toyota MDT in MO > wrote in news:iRO1m.2700
:

> Alan Mac Farlane wrote:
>> Jim Warman wrote:
>> >
>> There are no noises from the transmission. The car has only 21,000
>> miles on it.
>>
>>
>> take it back to the factory shop ... don't think it will cost you a
>> thing ... warrenty thingy as it must be a new car even if it is a 2006
>> would think.
>>
>> wow ... what a buy kinda sort of thing.
>>
>> 3 years old and only what ... 500 miles a month roadwork so far.
>>
>> on the face of it ... you got a good deal and it is worth keeping
>> around perhaps.
>>
>> sumbuddie just making wild guess now
>>
>> :?
>>
>>
> ? indeed. Did your post have a point?
>



He has a point, but his hat hides it.



--
Tegger

Tegger wrote:
> Toyota MDT in MO > wrote in news:iRO1m.2700
> :
>
>
>> Alan Mac Farlane wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Warman wrote:
>>>
>>> There are no noises from the transmission. The car has only 21,000
>>> miles on it.
>>>
>>>
>>> take it back to the factory shop ... don't think it will cost you a
>>> thing ... warrenty thingy as it must be a new car even if it is a 2006
>>> would think.
>>>
>>> wow ... what a buy kinda sort of thing.
>>>
>>> 3 years old and only what ... 500 miles a month roadwork so far.
>>>
>>> on the face of it ... you got a good deal and it is worth keeping
>>> around perhaps.
>>>
>>> sumbuddie just making wild guess now
>>>
>>> :?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ? indeed. Did your post have a point?
>>
>>
>
>
>
> He has a point, but his hat hides it.
>
>
>
>
Ah, very good explanation!

--
Toyota MDT in MO

Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:43:35 -0500, Toyota MDT in MO wrote:
>
>
>> Alan Mac Farlane wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Warman wrote:
>>>
>>> There are no noises from the transmission. The car has only 21,000
>>> miles on it.
>>>
>>>
>>> take it back to the factory shop ... don't think it will cost you a
>>> thing ... warrenty thingy as it must be a new car even if it is a 2006
>>> would think.
>>>
>>> wow ... what a buy kinda sort of thing.
>>>
>>> 3 years old and only what ... 500 miles a month roadwork so far.
>>>
>>> on the face of it ... you got a good deal and it is worth keeping
>>> around perhaps.
>>>
>>> sumbuddie just making wild guess now
>>>
>>> :?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ? indeed. Did your post have a point?
>>
>
> I *THINK* he was telling him to take it do the dealer and try to press for
> warranty repair. I know Toyota now has 3 years, 36,000 miles, and if they
> have a warranty like that on good cars, Ford must cover them for life...
>
>

Toyota offers 5/60 on powertrain, actually. You may be thinking of
Honda who still holds onto their 3/36 bumper to bumper warranty (and
seems to still sell cars).

> *STOP THE FLAMES!!!* I like Fords. Except Focuses. Cool car with the
> reliablitiy of a Volkswagen...
>
>

The flames would never have started had you not said that you like
Fords! :-) Ironically, if I had to recommend a Ford based on
reliability, price, and cost of ownership, I would probably start with
the Focus. That's not saying much, but I do love me some devil's advocate.

--
Toyota MDT in MO

In the US the warranty is 3 years; it is 3 months out of warranty.

Jim Warman wrote:
>
> Good grief..... check your Owner Information Guide.... In Canada the 06
> fusion has a 5 year/100,000 km powertrain warranty - one would assume
> 'similar' coverage in the US....
>
> I'm going to tell you the same thing I have to tell the guys in our
> shop..... RTFM - read the <factory> manual....
>
> "Mike Walsh" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > Jim Warman wrote:
> >>
> >> Anything is possible.... it is probability that seems to get us one way
> >> or
> >> another... How long was the grinding allowed to go on? How much has the
> >> trans been operated in it's current condition of distress?
> >
> > The grinding lasted about a second before it stalled.
> > I have driven it about 15 miles since it happened.
> >
> >> As another has commented, any diagnostic process is going to begin with
> >> "basics".... we begin with the least intrusive, simpler checks and tests
> >> and
> >> gradually work deeper - much like a doctor.
> >>
> >> According to the WSM, the G5M-5 trans has a synchronized reverse..... Can
> >> the shift lever be moved into the reverse gear position? Are there any
> >> abnormal noises? If so, when do they occur? How many miles are on the
> >> car?
> >
> > The shift lever will not go into the reverse position; with the engine
> > running or off. There are no noises from the transmission. The car has
> > only 21,000 miles on it.
> >
> >> "Mike Walsh" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> > The reverse gear on my 2006 Ford Fusion 5 speed manual transmission
> >> > will
> >> > not engage. This happened after a problem occurred while parallel
> >> > parking.
> >> > I had the transmission in reverse, then moved the shifter to put it in
> >> > neutral and let out the clutch. But the transmission did not go into
> >> > neutral. The engine did not simply stall as if it was in reverse, but
> >> > there was a dreadful noise like gears grinding. Now the transmission
> >> > will
> >> > not go into reverse at all. Is there any hope of getting this working
> >> > without tearing the transmission apart.

--
Mike Walsh

"Hachiroku ????" > wrote in message
news
> On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:43:35 -0500, Toyota MDT in MO wrote:
>
>> Alan Mac Farlane wrote:
>>> Jim Warman wrote:
>>> >
>>> There are no noises from the transmission. The car has only 21,000
>>> miles on it.
>>>
>>>
>>> take it back to the factory shop ... don't think it will cost you a
>>> thing ... warrenty thingy as it must be a new car even if it is a 2006
>>> would think.
>>>
>>> wow ... what a buy kinda sort of thing.
>>>
>>> 3 years old and only what ... 500 miles a month roadwork so far.
>>>
>>> on the face of it ... you got a good deal and it is worth keeping
>>> around perhaps.
>>>
>>> sumbuddie just making wild guess now
>>>
>>> :?
>>>
>>>
>> ? indeed. Did your post have a point?
>
> I *THINK* he was telling him to take it do the dealer and try to press for
> warranty repair. I know Toyota now has 3 years, 36,000 miles, and if they
> have a warranty like that on good cars, Ford must cover them for life...
>
>
> *STOP THE FLAMES!!!* I like Fords. Except Focuses. Cool car with the
> reliablitiy of a Volkswagen...
>
>
>

Guess I really screwed up then. In '92, I bought a 1988 VW Fox GL wagon.
1.8L/4 speed manual. I put alot of money into it, but nowhere near matchng
new car payments of any vehicle for a few years. 35 city/highway average.
Clutch assembly replaced twice, tranny once, same engine in its lifetime.
Was reliable till last year. Car pulled left from opposing lane in front of
me. VW was beyond economical repair, beyond total insurance reimbursement.
Mileage was over 350K.

Took insurance monies and my some of my own savings to put monies down on a
2008 Focus 5 spd manual, no frills whatsoever. 2 year extended warranty as
well. All last year. Took delivery on Aug. 1st. Had dealer change
oil/filter 3 times since. That's all the maintenance done. Approx. 6700
miles to date. Should I look for 350K miles again?
--
Dave