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How do repair shops price the parts they put in your car
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How do repair shops price the parts they put in your car
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Ashton Crusher > wrote: > On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:23:05 GMT, "Refinish King" > > wrote: > > >How would you know this? > > > > How do I know how the shops do business??? I've read the training > material they use to increase profits. There are a lot of different shop management training vendors out there, are you saying that you've read the materials from all of them? |
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How do repair shops price the parts they put in your car
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no computer for a few days. A rule of thumb is about the 25 to 30 % range. But, there isn't that much profit in parts anymore, when the customer can go buy for about the same price we do. RK "Ashton Crusher" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:23:05 GMT, "Refinish King" > > wrote: > >>How would you know this? >> > > How do I know how the shops do business??? I've read the training > material they use to increase profits. > > >>RK >>"Ashton Crusher" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:55:48 -0800, wrote: >>> >>>>I'm used to using the dodge dealer where i bought my truck so this >>>>question never came up. Now that I'm starting to use other shops, i'm >>>>wondering how much they typically mark up the parts they order. I >>>>just went to an NTB/Merchants place for new front upper ball joints on >>>>my dodge truck. Total cost was about $625. Each ball joint costs >>>>about $140 on my estimate (and receipt). But i know now that if i >>>>had gone to an autoparts store, they'd cost about half that. So is >>>>it typical for a 100% markup at these shops? >>>>The rest of the $625 was for labor (and shop fees and taxes)....and >>>>there was considerable labor >>>>because the old ball joints had to (sort of) cut out of the upper >>>>control arm. (side note: The ball joints normally come as part of >>>>the upper control arm, and they could have just replaced the whole >>>>upper control arm (they told me that was an option), but they said it >>>>would cost more and not even be necessary or better, though i'm >>>>realizing now that it probably would've been better to replace the >>>>whole UCA since i'd get a new one at slightly higher cost)....ANYWAY, >>>>my main question has to do with these markups of parts. Could i have >>>>just bought the parts myself and have them install? (i'm >>>>unmechanical) thanks. >>> >>> >>> Most charge double what it cost them. Overall, the typical >>> expectation at a shop is that every job will consist of somewhere >>> between 50% labor and 50% parts to 33% labor and 66% parts. They >>> really don't like doing labor only jobs because they make a lot more >>> off the parts then they do off the labor. They also charge flat rate >>> labor at most shops and a good experienced mechanic will be able to do >>> most repairs in less time then the flat rate so they come out ahead >>> there too. Last time I had front end work done they estimated the job >>> like yours, using the old control arm and putting new ball joints in >>> so it had a little extra labor, then when they were done they had used >>> a new control arm, which cost more for the parts, and still charged >>> the same total labor even though the arm saved them RR time for the >>> ball joint. So they screwed me there for an extra hour or so. >> |
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How do repair shops price the parts they put in your car
I've never replaced a seal in 15 seconds:
You have to remove parts to access the seal. I run my business honestly, if my customers want to bring their own parts, I just don't give them a 30 day labor included warranty. RK "Ashton Crusher" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 05:54:15 GMT, "Refinish King" > > wrote: > >>Sorry to reply so late: >> >>no computer for a few days. >> >>A rule of thumb is about the 25 to 30 % range. >> >> >>But, there isn't that much profit in parts anymore, when the customer can >>go >>buy for about the same price we do. >> > > Apples and oranges. If you are having the shop do the repairs you pay > the shops price for the parts. I've seen them charge $15 for a $3 seal > PLUS half an hour labor for the 10 seconds it takes to tap it into > place. If you don't want to pay their price they usually won't > accept you bringing in your own parts and I don't blame them. they > are in business to make money and I have no quibble with it when they > are an honest shop but a lot of them are crooks. > > >>RK >>"Ashton Crusher" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:23:05 GMT, "Refinish King" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>How would you know this? >>>> >>> >>> How do I know how the shops do business??? I've read the training >>> material they use to increase profits. >>> >>> >>>>RK >>>>"Ashton Crusher" > wrote in message m... >>>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:55:48 -0800, wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I'm used to using the dodge dealer where i bought my truck so this >>>>>>question never came up. Now that I'm starting to use other shops, i'm >>>>>>wondering how much they typically mark up the parts they order. I >>>>>>just went to an NTB/Merchants place for new front upper ball joints on >>>>>>my dodge truck. Total cost was about $625. Each ball joint costs >>>>>>about $140 on my estimate (and receipt). But i know now that if i >>>>>>had gone to an autoparts store, they'd cost about half that. So is >>>>>>it typical for a 100% markup at these shops? >>>>>>The rest of the $625 was for labor (and shop fees and taxes)....and >>>>>>there was considerable labor >>>>>>because the old ball joints had to (sort of) cut out of the upper >>>>>>control arm. (side note: The ball joints normally come as part of >>>>>>the upper control arm, and they could have just replaced the whole >>>>>>upper control arm (they told me that was an option), but they said it >>>>>>would cost more and not even be necessary or better, though i'm >>>>>>realizing now that it probably would've been better to replace the >>>>>>whole UCA since i'd get a new one at slightly higher cost)....ANYWAY, >>>>>>my main question has to do with these markups of parts. Could i have >>>>>>just bought the parts myself and have them install? (i'm >>>>>>unmechanical) thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Most charge double what it cost them. Overall, the typical >>>>> expectation at a shop is that every job will consist of somewhere >>>>> between 50% labor and 50% parts to 33% labor and 66% parts. They >>>>> really don't like doing labor only jobs because they make a lot more >>>>> off the parts then they do off the labor. They also charge flat rate >>>>> labor at most shops and a good experienced mechanic will be able to do >>>>> most repairs in less time then the flat rate so they come out ahead >>>>> there too. Last time I had front end work done they estimated the job >>>>> like yours, using the old control arm and putting new ball joints in >>>>> so it had a little extra labor, then when they were done they had used >>>>> a new control arm, which cost more for the parts, and still charged >>>>> the same total labor even though the arm saved them RR time for the >>>>> ball joint. So they screwed me there for an extra hour or so. >>>> |
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