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  #11  
Old July 12th 07, 01:12 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled,alt.autos.corvette
Jim Behning[_1_]
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Too funny. A front heavy car meant for cruising fast. Many would
suggest a balanced car is designed to be driven fast. Is a Skoda the
best car in the world because VAG has shares in it? At the racetrack
what cars do you see racing? I look at the American Lemans series and
I don't see anything about VW racing. I do see Audi racing. I see
Chevrolet Corvettes. I see Audi, Porsche but no VW.

I go to the Grand Am series and I see in the Koni Challenge that VW is
9 in the ST class just above Hundai. Nothing in the GS class. In the
Rolex classes they do not have any points so I guess that means they
are not racing at all. Just because a car might be able to go fast
does not mean the car is a safe well balanced car at speed. Just
because a car may be able to go fast does not mean the car is
superiour. When I have read VW reviews of actual cars that
professional drivers take out to the track for real lap times, the VWs
have not been first. Please cite any widely read periodicals that
state otherwise.

Wsting my breath here but I believe I have seen Cadillac at the race
track. I still can't recall seeing a competive VW. No, Audi is not VW.
Yes they may share some stock and some parts but they are not really
VW anymore than a Bugotti is a VW, or Saab is GM, or Mecedes is
Chrysler, or Jaguar is Ford.

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:29:17 -0700, Sal >
wrote:

>The Passat W8 is a family car and not really meant for the track. It's
>meant for Autobahn Cruising @ 155 MPH+.
> It's very front heavy and weighs 2 tons even though it's a midsize
>car in proportion. Volkswagen Autogroup makes other cars such as the
>Bugatti Veyron W16, Lamborghini Gallardo V10, Audi S6 V10 MTM, Audi
>R8, and Volkswagen Golf GTI W12 which will whoop any American car on
>the track.
>
>
>On Jul 11, 10:53 am, Jim Behning
> wrote:
>> So how does that car do on the race track? VW owner since 1977 wants
>> to know. Oh wait, you never see the car at any road courses.
>>
>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:44:15 -0700, Sal >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >270 BHP 2002 Passat W8 Six Speed Top Speed Run

>>
>> >http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...382-4e38-830f-...

>>
>> >2002 405 BHP Corvette ZO6

>>
>> >http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...8801-9a22-48a0...

>>
>> >This goes to show you the INCREDIBLE superiority of German Engineering
>> >over American Engineering when a BONE STOCK Passat W8 has a higher top
>> >speed than a Stock C5 ZO6.

>>
>> >The Passat W8 is the Cousin of the Legendary Bugatti Veyron W16 after
>> >all.

>>
>> >Passat has much better gearing ratios and a 0.27 drag coefficient.

>>
>> >According to the top speed calculator, the 2002 Passat W8 only needs
>> >411 BHP to reach 200 MPH, a Corvette would need at leas 550 BHP or
>> >more.- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>

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  #12  
Old July 12th 07, 01:18 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled,alt.autos.corvette
Sal
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The reason that the Corvette hit the rev limiter is because its top
speed is actually in 5th gear because it doesn't have enough power to
go fast in 6th gear. The W8 would hit the rev limiter too in 5th gear.
It just has the governor removed, NOT the rev limiter. The Top speed
of the Corvette ZO6 is DRAG limited anyway, not governor limited.



On Jul 11, 5:54 pm, "Spud" > wrote:
> > Have you actually watched the videos? The Passat is as smooth as silk
> > @ 174 MPH, and the ZO6s engine almost blows up when it reaches 172
> > MPH.

>
> It's called a rev limiter you moron.
>
> And the Bug's limiter was disabled.
>
> You must be a high school kid with a Cabreolet covertable.
>
> Go post on the Bug group.



  #13  
Old July 12th 07, 01:25 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled,alt.autos.corvette
Sal
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What about the 650 BHP Golf GTI W12 Twin Turbo aka Corvette SS
Killer?

On Jul 11, 10:44 pm, Bob I > wrote:
> WTFC. A Volkswagon is still a volkswagon.
>
>
>
> Sal wrote:
> > 270 BHP 2002 Passat W8 Six Speed Top Speed Run- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -



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Old July 12th 07, 03:27 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled,alt.autos.corvette
PJ[_4_]
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Sal wrote:
> The reason that the Corvette hit the rev limiter is because its top
> speed is actually in 5th gear because it doesn't have enough power to
> go fast in 6th gear. The W8 would hit the rev limiter too in 5th gear.
> It just has the governor removed, NOT the rev limiter. The Top speed
> of the Corvette ZO6 is DRAG limited anyway, not governor limited.
>
>


Madre mia --why am I answering this?

Overdrive (6th) contributes to highway fuel
economy, offers improved range, longer engine
life and avoids a gas guzzler tax. It has
proven successful in Corvettes (auto and
stick) for over 20 years. I don't find that
an undesirable quality.

Getting real: The W8, WRX have had some
temporary fascination for sports car fans in
this country since they are out of the
ordinary. Not unlike the German fascination
with low-end torque which spawned the
Berlinetta -- a good seller in Germany for a
couple of years.

--
pj
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Old July 12th 07, 07:34 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled,alt.autos.corvette
Sal
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On Jul 12, 8:12 am, Jim Behning
> wrote:
> Too funny. A front heavy car meant for cruising fast. Many would
> suggest a balanced car is designed to be driven fast. Is a Skoda the
> best car in the world because VAG has shares in it?


Skodas used to be crappy cars, but ever since VW bought them, they're
fine cars.
Hell, I'd pick a Skoda Superb over a Chevy Malibu or Ford Fusion any
day of the week give the chance.
VW sell Skoda Superbs in the US because it would harm Passat Sales. VW
also doesn't make Passat Convertibles because it would hurt A4
Convertible Sales, although the EOS does the same to a smaller degree.
If they sold Skoda Superbs in the US, they'd sell like hotcakes.
Even these last generation Skoda Superbs are beautiful family cars to
me.


http://images.google.com/images?q=Sk...mages&ct=title

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Old July 12th 07, 08:46 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled,alt.autos.corvette
Sarah Czepiel
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:25:11 -0700, Sal >
wrote:

:>What about the 650 BHP Golf GTI W12 Twin Turbo aka Corvette SS
:>Killer?

You're trying to polish a turd. Corvette people don't like turds,
polished or not.

Enjoy your VW.


:>On Jul 11, 10:44 pm, Bob I > wrote:
:>> WTFC. A Volkswagon is still a volkswagon.
:>>

  #17  
Old July 13th 07, 02:15 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled,alt.autos.corvette
Bob I
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Still just another volkswagon. You are obviously laboring under a severe
information deficit, go look up Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette, and find
out why you are held in such disdain.

Sal wrote:
> What about the 650 BHP Golf GTI W12 Twin Turbo aka Corvette SS
> Killer?
>
> On Jul 11, 10:44 pm, Bob I > wrote:
>> WTFC. A Volkswagon is still a volkswagon.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sal wrote:
>>> 270 BHP 2002 Passat W8 Six Speed Top Speed Run- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

>
>

  #18  
Old July 13th 07, 02:17 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled,alt.autos.corvette
Sal
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The Volkswagen GTI W12 Twin Turbo is a legit MID-ENGINE SUPERCAR.
The W12 Engine was actually originally designed for the VW 12 Nardo
Supercar Concept that was made to destroy Enzos on the track.
http://www.in.gr/auto/parousiaseis/f..._676_03_01.jpg
http://www.autogen.pl/cars/VolksW12N/2.jpg
http://vodila.net/sketch_images/235.jpg

Front Engine Cars like the Corvettes are mere PRETENDERS, real Super-
Cars have MID-ENGINE SETUP. Why settle for a lowly front engine car
when you can get a Mid-Engine Supercar for less money?
Here are some images that what kind of beast the W12 in the GTI really
is.
http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content...fficial_12.jpg
http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content...ficial_111.jpg

Why would anyone settle for a Front Engine car with understeer like
the Corvette SS whent they can get a Mid-Engine Exotic like the
Volkswagen GTI W12 Twin Turbo with Supercar manners on the track?




On Jul 12, 3:46 pm, Sarah Czepiel > wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:25:11 -0700, Sal >
> wrote:
>
> :>What about the 650 BHP Golf GTI W12 Twin Turbo aka Corvette SS
> :>Killer?
>
> You're trying to polish a turd. Corvette people don't like turds,
> polished or not.
>
> Enjoy your VW.
>
> :>On Jul 11, 10:44 pm, Bob I > wrote:
> :>> WTFC. A Volkswagon is still a volkswagon.
> :>>



  #19  
Old July 13th 07, 02:26 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled,alt.autos.corvette
Jim Behning[_1_]
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:34:22 -0700, Sal >
wrote:

>On Jul 12, 8:12 am, Jim Behning
> wrote:
>> Too funny. A front heavy car meant for cruising fast. Many would
>> suggest a balanced car is designed to be driven fast. Is a Skoda the
>> best car in the world because VAG has shares in it?

>
>Skodas used to be crappy cars, but ever since VW bought them, they're
>fine cars.
>Hell, I'd pick a Skoda Superb over a Chevy Malibu or Ford Fusion any
>day of the week give the chance.
>VW sell Skoda Superbs in the US because it would harm Passat Sales. VW
>also doesn't make Passat Convertibles because it would hurt A4
>Convertible Sales, although the EOS does the same to a smaller degree.
>If they sold Skoda Superbs in the US, they'd sell like hotcakes.
>Even these last generation Skoda Superbs are beautiful family cars to
>me.
>
>
>http://images.google.com/images?q=Sk...mages&ct=title


If I am not mistaken the Passat is made by Audi. So if you want to be
technical you are talking about an Audi that you think is so great,
not a VW.

Your one off discussions are silly also. There are plenty of Corvette
one off with turbos.

We had a 72 Polara in the family. It was spec'ed out by CHP to go a
minimum of 140 mph. I was not so interested in driving that 5,000
pound car 140. It got up to 120 pretty fast though. OK, not as fast as
a lot of the factory race cars you can buy but it was 5,000
pounds.Something that has the potential to go fast does not mean that
you want to drive it fast on anything but a straight road. I am not
ignorant enough to suggest that one car is superiour to another. That
is oft times as silly as saying my methane smells better than you
methane.

Fun troll, sort of.
  #20  
Old July 13th 07, 02:28 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled,alt.autos.corvette
Bob I
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Obviously you don't have a clue about design. The engine being set
BETWEEN the front and rear wheels defines mid-engine. There are forward
mounted and rear mounted mid-engines. Now go away as you are the
"pretender". You may continue your education on your own. Good-day.

Sal wrote:
> The Volkswagen GTI W12 Twin Turbo is a legit MID-ENGINE SUPERCAR.
> The W12 Engine was actually originally designed for the VW 12 Nardo
> Supercar Concept that was made to destroy Enzos on the track.
> http://www.in.gr/auto/parousiaseis/f..._676_03_01.jpg
> http://www.autogen.pl/cars/VolksW12N/2.jpg
> http://vodila.net/sketch_images/235.jpg
>
> Front Engine Cars like the Corvettes are mere PRETENDERS, real Super-
> Cars have MID-ENGINE SETUP. Why settle for a lowly front engine car
> when you can get a Mid-Engine Supercar for less money?
> Here are some images that what kind of beast the W12 in the GTI really
> is.
> http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content...fficial_12.jpg
> http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content...ficial_111.jpg
>
> Why would anyone settle for a Front Engine car with understeer like
> the Corvette SS whent they can get a Mid-Engine Exotic like the
> Volkswagen GTI W12 Twin Turbo with Supercar manners on the track?
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 12, 3:46 pm, Sarah Czepiel > wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:25:11 -0700, Sal >
>> wrote:
>>
>> :>What about the 650 BHP Golf GTI W12 Twin Turbo aka Corvette SS
>> :>Killer?
>>
>> You're trying to polish a turd. Corvette people don't like turds,
>> polished or not.
>>
>> Enjoy your VW.
>>
>> :>On Jul 11, 10:44 pm, Bob I > wrote:
>> :>> WTFC. A Volkswagon is still a volkswagon.
>> :>>

>
>

 




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