rFactor F1 Video

You don't HAVE to beta test it is the point.

Just download the damned thing, go racing, and enjoy yourself!

That's what the rest of us are doing.

-Larry

"schooner" > wrote in message
news:mBsge.36376$0X6.30677@edtnps90...
> No loss, as I said I have no time to be beta testing demos.
> When the full version is out and if it is decent and leagues are using it
> then I'll consider it. I have past the days of jumping on every new demo
> and wasting time with them until they are known to be keepers.
>
> "Larry" > wrote in message
> newsPrge.6003$Ay3.2109@lakeread06...
>> This one is your loss then. Really...
>>
>> -Larry
>>
>> "schooner" > wrote in message
>> news:ie3ge.35835$0X6.10362@edtnps90...
>>>I personally don't bother with demos anymore, no time to be beta testing
>>>software, I have limited time to sim as is. When a sim is out and proven
>>>I'll take a look.
>>>
>>> "David G Fisher" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> You guys do realize there's been a demo out for months?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> David G Fisher
>>>>
>>>> "schooner" > wrote in message
>>>> news:363ge.35833$0X6.2307@edtnps90...
>>>>> > rFactor will only have the best physics, graphics, and multiplayer
>>>> you've
>>>>> > ever seen in an auto sim. Not sure where you've been the past six
>>>> months.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kinda sounds like the marketing hype for EA's NSR and we know how that
>>>> went
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> "David G Fisher" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "Byron Forbes" > wrote in message
>>>>> >
>>>> ...
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> "David G Fisher" > wrote in message
>>>>> >> ...
>>>>> >> > Scroll to the bottom of this page.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > http://www.hsw.hu/jatekhirek_eng.shtml
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Please release this sim NOW.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > --
>>>>> >> > David G Fisher
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> <shakes head> Did you say"sim"? Looks like some need for speed
>>>>> >> garbage
>>>>> >> to me
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Right.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > rFactor will only have the best physics, graphics, and multiplayer
>>>> you've
>>>>> > ever seen in an auto sim. Not sure where you've been the past six
>>>> months.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > David G Fisher
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Is it currently being used by any leagues to run competitive points series?
I assume as a demo it is limited in some fashion or is it the complete full
meal deal as it plans to ship?

"Larry" > wrote in message
news:9%Lge.10389$Ay3.3999@lakeread06...
> You don't HAVE to beta test it is the point.
>
> Just download the damned thing, go racing, and enjoy yourself!
>
> That's what the rest of us are doing.
>
> -Larry
>
> "schooner" > wrote in message
> news:mBsge.36376$0X6.30677@edtnps90...
>> No loss, as I said I have no time to be beta testing demos.
>> When the full version is out and if it is decent and leagues are using it
>> then I'll consider it. I have past the days of jumping on every new demo
>> and wasting time with them until they are known to be keepers.
>>
>> "Larry" > wrote in message
>> newsPrge.6003$Ay3.2109@lakeread06...
>>> This one is your loss then. Really...
>>>
>>> -Larry
>>>
>>> "schooner" > wrote in message
>>> news:ie3ge.35835$0X6.10362@edtnps90...
>>>>I personally don't bother with demos anymore, no time to be beta testing
>>>>software, I have limited time to sim as is. When a sim is out and
>>>>proven I'll take a look.
>>>>
>>>> "David G Fisher" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> You guys do realize there's been a demo out for months?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> David G Fisher
>>>>>
>>>>> "schooner" > wrote in message
>>>>> news:363ge.35833$0X6.2307@edtnps90...
>>>>>> > rFactor will only have the best physics, graphics, and multiplayer
>>>>> you've
>>>>>> > ever seen in an auto sim. Not sure where you've been the past six
>>>>> months.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kinda sounds like the marketing hype for EA's NSR and we know how
>>>>>> that
>>>>> went
>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "David G Fisher" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > "Byron Forbes" > wrote in message
>>>>>> >
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> "David G Fisher" > wrote in message
>>>>>> >> ...
>>>>>> >> > Scroll to the bottom of this page.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > http://www.hsw.hu/jatekhirek_eng.shtml
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Please release this sim NOW.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > --
>>>>>> >> > David G Fisher
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> <shakes head> Did you say"sim"? Looks like some need for speed
>>>>>> >> garbage
>>>>>> >> to me
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Right.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > rFactor will only have the best physics, graphics, and multiplayer
>>>>> you've
>>>>>> > ever seen in an auto sim. Not sure where you've been the past six
>>>>> months.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > David G Fisher
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

"schooner" > wrote in
news:OfMge.37697$0X6.34810@edtnps90:

> Is it currently being used by any leagues to run competitive points
> series? I assume as a demo it is limited in some fashion or is it the
> complete full meal deal as it plans to ship?
>

It is a mulitplayer test demo. They have crippled a good portion of the
graphics and the physics. Still, when you compare it to a Touring Car mod
from F1c, you'll be pleased. I think ETCC by the RSR mod group was/is
spectacular in representing Touring Cars. The car of choice in the demo
ranges from a near street car to a full blown TC. THink a Honda Civic
morphing into a Real Time Acura Speed World Challenge Touring Car.
There is only one fictional track and only the three levels of the same
type of car, but here is where you need to pay attention.

ISI stuff works differently than Papyrus. I'm not saying better and I'm
certainly not saying worse...but different. You can be using this time to
familiarize yourself with the ISI methodology and controller setups. If
you use 100 linearty for your wheel axis in Papyrus sims, then think 50%
for ISI. If you try and use Papy numbers with rFactor, then you will have
a plowing boat of a car.

So don't worry about 'beta testing' for some company, they have already
done most of the r&D on the multiplayer aspects. What is out there now is
mainly a free classroom. It is a chance for you to get at least familiar
with how this line of sims works.

I loved the demo when it first came out...but I have rarely driven it
since, mainly because I have a league that I don't practice enough for
already, and I'm helping finish some F1c mod stuff so SSM can move on to
fFactor once it finally is released.

dave henrie

Thanks Dave, that helps. As I said I don't have much time either so I'll
pass until a full version is out. Sounds interesting though but I may be
sticking with Papy for sometime since I typically just run NASCAR ovals and
roadies as is in our league and this may not replace that unless there is a
stock car mod for it planned.

"Dave Henrie" > wrote in message
. 97.136...
> "schooner" > wrote in
> news:OfMge.37697$0X6.34810@edtnps90:
>
>> Is it currently being used by any leagues to run competitive points
>> series? I assume as a demo it is limited in some fashion or is it the
>> complete full meal deal as it plans to ship?
>>
>
> It is a mulitplayer test demo. They have crippled a good portion of the
> graphics and the physics. Still, when you compare it to a Touring Car mod
> from F1c, you'll be pleased. I think ETCC by the RSR mod group was/is
> spectacular in representing Touring Cars. The car of choice in the demo
> ranges from a near street car to a full blown TC. THink a Honda Civic
> morphing into a Real Time Acura Speed World Challenge Touring Car.
> There is only one fictional track and only the three levels of the same
> type of car, but here is where you need to pay attention.
>
> ISI stuff works differently than Papyrus. I'm not saying better and I'm
> certainly not saying worse...but different. You can be using this time to
> familiarize yourself with the ISI methodology and controller setups. If
> you use 100 linearty for your wheel axis in Papyrus sims, then think 50%
> for ISI. If you try and use Papy numbers with rFactor, then you will have
> a plowing boat of a car.
>
> So don't worry about 'beta testing' for some company, they have already
> done most of the r&D on the multiplayer aspects. What is out there now is
> mainly a free classroom. It is a chance for you to get at least familiar
> with how this line of sims works.
>
> I loved the demo when it first came out...but I have rarely driven it
> since, mainly because I have a league that I don't practice enough for
> already, and I'm helping finish some F1c mod stuff so SSM can move on to
> fFactor once it finally is released.
>
> dave henrie

>"Steve Blankenship" > wrote
> Couldn't resist revisting this in light of the GTL presentation videos
> that
> popped up on BHMS today. Assuming SimBin are using gMotor2 as well, there
> couldn't be a better example of two totally different aesthetic
> approaches.
> Load them up side by side and that rFactor formula car video looks like an
> old Ubisoft game next to GTL.



I have to agree, the first thing my mind said after viewing that rFactor F1
vid, is "MGPRS2". Everything is there, from the bland textures to the badly
done divisions between the road and the grass. It feels off.






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"ymenard" > wrote in message
...
> >"Steve Blankenship" > wrote
> > Couldn't resist revisting this in light of the GTL presentation videos
> > that
> > popped up on BHMS today. Assuming SimBin are using gMotor2 as well,
there
> > couldn't be a better example of two totally different aesthetic
> > approaches.
> > Load them up side by side and that rFactor formula car video looks like
an
> > old Ubisoft game next to GTL.
>
>
>
> I have to agree, the first thing my mind said after viewing that rFactor
F1
> vid, is "MGPRS2". Everything is there, from the bland textures to the
badly
> done divisions between the road and the grass. It feels off.

I still can't believe the things I read at ras sometimes.

--
David G Fisher

"David G Fisher" > wrote in message
...
>
> "ymenard" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >"Steve Blankenship" > wrote
> > > Couldn't resist revisiting this in light of the GTL presentation
videos
> > > that
> > > popped up on BHMS today. Assuming SimBin are using gMotor2 as well,
> there
> > > couldn't be a better example of two totally different aesthetic
> > > approaches.
> > > Load them up side by side and that rFactor formula car video looks
like
> an
> > > old Ubisoft game next to GTL.
> >
> > I have to agree, the first thing my mind said after viewing that rFactor
> F1
> > vid, is "MGPRS2". Everything is there, from the bland textures to the
> badly
> > done divisions between the road and the grass. It feels off.
>
> I still can't believe the things I read at ras sometimes.

Hehe... Actually, I was thinking back further than MGPRS2, but couldn't
remember what they called that POS. ;-) I agree the graphics in that
formula car vid are kind of cartoonish, but since I have the rFactor demo I
know the scenery generally looks good. The banners and buildings do have a
bit of that same look, but It's primarily the cars that look "gamey" in
rFactor. I think they're going for a "look" that appeals to gamers as well
as sim-heads, while the folks at SimBin have a much more focused target
market in mind. I still like rFactor, mind you - just muchly prefer the
realistic direction SimBin are going graphically.

SB

"Steve Blankenship" wrote:

> Hehe... Actually, I was thinking back further than MGPRS2, but couldn't
> remember what they called that POS. ;-) I agree the graphics in that
> formula car vid are kind of cartoonish, but since I have the rFactor demo
> I know the scenery generally looks good.
> The banners and buildings do have
> a bit of that same look, but It's primarily the cars that look "gamey" in
> rFactor. I think they're going for a "look" that appeals to gamers as
> well as sim-heads, while the folks at SimBin have a much more focused
> target market in mind.
> I still like rFactor, mind you - just muchly prefer the
> realistic direction SimBin are going graphically.

rfactor seemed to have got rid of that washed out look of the previous
engines. The cartoony cars don't bother me as I am sure some real life skins
will shortly be available after release.

I just focused on single seaters with some pretty wayward rear ends like you
would see in the lower formulas like Formula Renault etc (or even a Minardi
on the ragged edge!) and it looked great to me. Depends what you want. I'd
rather be fighting the car with some turn in oversteer whilst pulling off an
overtaking manouvre than putting in the perfect F1 lap whilst the opponent
pits.