Latest on bus crash that killed 14. Driver asleep? Speeding?Previous violation?

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stori...-at-the-wheel/

Report: Police Look Into Whether Bus Driver Fell Asleep At The Wheel

As the New York State Police Department investigates the deadly tour
bus crash in the Bronx, they're reportedly focusing on whether the
driver may have fallen asleep.

Ophadell Williams was at the wheel of the World Wide Tours bus when he
apparently lost control and crashed on the New England Thruway early
yesterday.

The bus slammed into a guard rail, overturned and hit a sign post,
slicing the roof off nearly end-to-end at window level.

Fourteen of the 32 people on board were killed. Eight remain in
serious condition at St. Barnabas and Jacobi hospitals in the Bronx.
Injuries include severe head trauma and lost limbs.

The driver remains in the hospital with non-life threatening
injuries.

The driver told police he was trying to avoid a swerving tractor-
trailer. But although State Police seized a tractor-trailer that could
have been involved, sources tell the Daily News at least one passenger
saw Williams nodding off before the crash.

Passengers reportedly told investigators the bus hit the rumble strips
three times.

"We have a number of reports, some of who are saying the driver was
operating southbound at a high rate of speed,” said Major Michael Kopy
of the NY State Police during a news conference last night. The Daily
News says the driver pleaded guilty in 2003 to driving without a
license.

Officials say they're still waiting for the results of toxicology
tests.

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On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:57:28 -0700 (PDT), Criminal Drivers Murder 35,000
Americans a Year wrote:

> http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stori...-at-the-wheel/
>
> Report: Police Look Into Whether Bus Driver Fell Asleep At The Wheel


This is one of my pet peeves with the DOT rules and regulations for CDL
drivers. Drivers who operate locally only, rarely, if ever, even get
questioned by a cop or even a DOT officer. Simply for the fact there is not
enough manpower to do so.

Tour bus operators who venture out across the country don't even cross
scales. Because they select routes that avoid these scales. As an
experienced truck driver, I never even saw a "Greyhound" bus cross a scale.
Let alone be stopped by an officer for any reason.

In this particular case, I'd have to ask, why was the driver in a condition
of "nodding off"? How long had the bus been at the casino? 10 hours?

I'd like to see more stringent and enforced rules for tour bus operators.
They should not be getting a "free ride" just because no one ever checks
them.

Near here, a bus went of the road and got airborne before it crashed.
It turns out the bus went to a gambling casino overnight and the driver
spent all night gambling and never slept.
He fell asleep on the drive home.

--
JerryD(upstateNY)

>> http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stori...-at-the-wheel/
>>
>> Report: Police Look Into Whether Bus Driver Fell Asleep At The Wheel
>
>
> This is one of my pet peeves with the DOT rules and regulations for CDL
> drivers. Drivers who operate locally only, rarely, if ever, even get
> questioned by a cop or even a DOT officer. Simply for the fact there is
> not
> enough manpower to do so.
>
> Tour bus operators who venture out across the country don't even cross
> scales. Because they select routes that avoid these scales. As an
> experienced truck driver, I never even saw a "Greyhound" bus cross a
> scale.
> Let alone be stopped by an officer for any reason.
>
> In this particular case, I'd have to ask, why was the driver in a
> condition
> of "nodding off"? How long had the bus been at the casino? 10 hours?
>
> I'd like to see more stringent and enforced rules for tour bus operators.
> They should not be getting a "free ride" just because no one ever checks
> them.

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:01:35 -0700, Evan Platt wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:06:48 -0700, richard >
> wrote:
>
>>This is one of my pet peeves with the DOT rules and regulations for CDL
>>drivers. Drivers who operate locally only, rarely, if ever, even get
>>questioned by a cop or even a DOT officer.
>
> What? I've seen local drivers pulled over plenty on commute to and
> from work.

I'll bet there were no passengers on those buses too.


>
>>Simply for the fact there is not enough manpower to do so.
>
> Ok, so what does that have to do with rules and regulations?

Do the math, asswipe.
Do I really need to explain it to you, oh great billy big rigger?
ALL CDL drivers are required to follow the rules that apply to them.

>
>>Tour bus operators who venture out across the country don't even cross
>>scales.
>
> Bull****. I've seen tour buses at the scales plenty of times.

With passengers? I doubt that.
Haven't you heard of the unwritten "law" of law enforcing?
"Thou shalt not stop a greyhound bus".

>
>>Because they select routes that avoid these scales.
>
> Around here, you often can't. (short of exiting the freeway, taking
> city streets, then getting back on the freeway.
>
>>As an experienced truck driver,
>
> LOL

At least I wasn't stuck inside of little cubicle all day long staring at
the walls as you do.

>
>>I never even saw a "Greyhound" bus cross a scale.Let alone be stopped by an officer for any reason.
>
> Well I have.

Post a photo of one. Then I'll believe it.
With passengers.

>
>>In this particular case, I'd have to ask, why was the driver in a condition
>>of "nodding off"? How long had the bus been at the casino? 10 hours?
>>
>>I'd like to see more stringent and enforced rules for tour bus operators.
>>They should not be getting a "free ride" just because no one ever checks
>>them.
>
> Who's getting a free ride?

Practically every tour bus in the country.

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 21:06:38 -0700, Evan Platt wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:32:26 -0700, richard >
> wrote:
>
>>I'll bet there were no passengers on those buses too.
>
> Couldn't tell you. I didn't stop and look.
>
>>Do the math, asswipe.
>
> Get your head out of your ass, troll.
>
> You said: "Simply for the fact there is not enough manpower to do so."
>
> Me: What does that have to do with rules and regulations?
>
>>Do I really need to explain it to you, oh great billy big rigger?
>>ALL CDL drivers are required to follow the rules that apply to them.
>
> And what does that have to do with not enough manpower, pedo troll?
>
>>> Bull****. I've seen tour buses at the scales plenty of times.
>>
>>With passengers? I doubt that.
>>Haven't you heard of the unwritten "law" of law enforcing?
>>"Thou shalt not stop a greyhound bus".
>
> No, I haven't. I've seen a greyhound bus pulled over a few times.
>
>>At least I wasn't stuck inside of little cubicle all day long staring at
>>the walls as you do.
>
> You weren't smart enough to get a job where you'd be in a cubicle.
> Your jobs were washing the toilets. And you were under qualified for
> that.
>
>>Post a photo of one. Then I'll believe it.
>>With passengers.
>
> Ok, let me hop into my time machine and get you a photo of something I
> saw in the past.
>
> Dumb****.
>
> But since you asked, here's a bus pulled over by police.
>
> With passengers.
>
> http://summitcountyvoice.com/2010/11...l-phone-pings/
>
> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2605/...9f7eb88696.jpg
>
> http://thoughtcatalog.com/wp-content...03/photo-3.jpg
>
> http://www.travelpod.com/travel-blog...2540/tpod.html
> "The highlight of the bus trip was when the bus pulled over for the
> "bus police" to get on"
>
> http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/201...alyzer_100316/
>
> How many more articles do I need to show you to prove bus drivers DO
> get pulled over, troll?

I'm talking of USA bus drivers, dip****.
The one article where the cops pinged a guy's cell phone and found him on a
bus, is not a routine "stop" as I was talking about.
The one photo of the "Fungwah" bus with the cop behind it doesn't tell me
the cop pulled the bus over.
I have driven nearly a million miles in 48 states and I still as yet have
to see one commercial bus inside a working scales, or being pulled over by
the DOT or any other officer, for any reason.

I was on a bus ride out to Colorado one year. The bus used US 6 even though
there was a perfectly good interstate just a few miles to our south, one
you could see from the bus. Most likely to avoid the scale on the
interstate.

On Mar 13, 3:08*pm, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)" >
wrote:
> Near here, a bus went of the road and got airborne before it crashed.
> It turns out the bus went to a gambling casino overnight and the driver
> spent all night gambling and never slept.
> He fell asleep on the drive home.

Did the driver survive and if so was he prosecuted?

S4B spewed:

>On Mar 13, 3:08*pm, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)" >
>wrote:
>> Near here, a bus went of the road and got airborne before it crashed.
>> It turns out the bus went to a gambling casino overnight and the driver
>> spent all night gambling and never slept.
>> He fell asleep on the drive home.
>
>Did the driver survive and if so was he prosecuted?

Nobody knows and nobody (that matters) cares, you racist american
(sic) ****tard.

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