Top ten all american sports cars

Seats up front with a sort of a seat in back for a few sacks of
groceries, not really a front and rear seat car though.How about a
rumble seat roadster car?
cuhulin

Steve Wrote:
> Scott Dorsey wrote:
>
> > Steve > wrote:
> >
> >>>Delorean
> >>
> >>Hmmm. Qualifies on most things. Except that "performance" bit....
> >
> >
> > I thought this was actually a British car. American engine, though,
> > so the oil leak rule may not apply.
> > --scott
>
> I don't actually remember where the car was assembled nor where the
> body
> and chassis were built. But I do remember that the powerplant was the
> godforsaken PRV (Pugeot-Renault-Volvo) v6 that later went into the
> Eagle
> Premier. No power AND no reliability. The best of French
> engineering.... :-/
I'm glad nobody reads any of my posts. The Delorean was built in
Belfast, Northern Ireland.


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Steve wrote:
> news wrote:
>
>
>> I'm using wikipedia's definition of a sports car:
>
> Well that was a mistake...

lol, no it's not.


dictionary.com:
"sports car
–noun
a small, high-powered automobile with long, low lines, usually seating
two persons."

IMO, "sports car" is a fairly liberal definition that depending on how
you look at it, can include stuff like Mustangs, or does not.

It's one of those "you know it when you see it" - a Honda Insight seats
two people, yet it's sure no sports car.

It's like defining "Muscle Car" - to some people, because a Trans Am is
a "pony car", that means it's not a muscle car... even though it
basically came with the same engines as a GTO and was often faster...

It's partly why I changed it to "sportY" car - I have a 2001 Trans Am
and yet do NOT consider it a sports car. I had a Fiero, it was no
sports car either.

If two seats is a serious criteria, you have to include the first
Firehawks (available as a two seater) and the Cobra R Mustang from a few
years ago - it also only came as a two seater.

Ray

What about the Saleen S7 or the Ford GT? Both highly desirable cars in
my book.

(Scott Dorsey) writes:

> Steve > wrote:
>>
>>> Delorean
>>Hmmm. Qualifies on most things. Except that "performance" bit....
>
> I thought this was actually a British car. American engine, though,
> so the oil leak rule may not apply.

It was made in Northern Ireland and had a PRV (Peugeot/Renault/Volvo)
V6 (Yuk!)

> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

news wrote:

>
> dictionary.com:
> "sports car
> –noun
> a small, high-powered automobile with long, low lines, usually seating
> two persons."

That really doesn't fit everything, either. Would you consider an early
'60s Alfa Romeo Spider Veloce a sports car? Or an MGB? Or an MG Midget?
I sure would and in fact I'd consider cars like those to be nearly
defninitive examples of the class. But they certainly aren't "high
powered" by any stretch of the imagination, not even when compared to
contemporary vehicles.
>
> IMO, "sports car" is a fairly liberal definition that depending on how
> you look at it, can include stuff like Mustangs, or does not.
>
> It's one of those "you know it when you see it" - a Honda Insight seats
> two people, yet it's sure no sports car.
>
> It's like defining "Muscle Car" - to some people, because a Trans Am is
> a "pony car", that means it's not a muscle car... even though it
> basically came with the same engines as a GTO and was often faster...

You're quite right, although I would argue that there is a more widely
bounded and accepted definition of "sports car" than there is of "muscle
car." And being a 2-seater is pretty central to the definition.

Steve wrote:
> news wrote:
>
>>
>> dictionary.com:
>> "sports car
>> –noun
>> a small, high-powered automobile with long, low lines, usually seating
>> two persons."
>
> That really doesn't fit everything, either. Would you consider an early
> '60s Alfa Romeo Spider Veloce a sports car? Or an MGB? Or an MG Midget?
> I sure would and in fact I'd consider cars like those to be nearly
> defninitive examples of the class. But they certainly aren't "high
> powered" by any stretch of the imagination, not even when compared to
> contemporary vehicles.
>>
>> IMO, "sports car" is a fairly liberal definition that depending on how
>> you look at it, can include stuff like Mustangs, or does not.
>>
>> It's one of those "you know it when you see it" - a Honda Insight
>> seats two people, yet it's sure no sports car.
>>
>> It's like defining "Muscle Car" - to some people, because a Trans Am
>> is a "pony car", that means it's not a muscle car... even though it
>> basically came with the same engines as a GTO and was often faster...
>
> You're quite right, although I would argue that there is a more widely
> bounded and accepted definition of "sports car" than there is of "muscle
> car." And being a 2-seater is pretty central to the definition.

ok, how about this list of American (GM, Ford, Chrysler, etc...) two
seater sports cars?

1. Vette
2. Viper
3. Solstice/Sky
4. Thunderbird
5. Ford GT40
6. Saleen S7 http://www.saleen.com
7. Mosler http://www.moslerauto.com
8. Fiero
9. Firehawk
http://www.yearone.com/enthusiast/ar...h_perfart.html
10. Cobra R http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_SVT_Cobra
11. Vector http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_W8
12. AMX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_AMX
13. Panoz Esperante http://www.panozauto.com

all of them are two seaters.
If they MUST be without a fixed roof, the list shrinks...

1. Vette
2. Viper
3. Solstice/Sky
4. Thunderbird
5. Panoz Esperante http://www.panozauto.com

Ray

ray wrote:

>
> ok, how about this list of American (GM, Ford, Chrysler, etc...) two
> seater sports cars?
>
> 1. Vette
> 2. Viper
> 3. Solstice/Sky
> 4. Thunderbird
> 5. Ford GT40
> 6. Saleen S7 http://www.saleen.com
> 7. Mosler http://www.moslerauto.com
> 8. Fiero
> 9. Firehawk
> http://www.yearone.com/enthusiast/ar...h_perfart.html
>
> 10. Cobra R http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_SVT_Cobra
> 11. Vector http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_W8
> 12. AMX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_AMX
> 13. Panoz Esperante http://www.panozauto.com
>
> all of them are two seaters.
> If they MUST be without a fixed roof, the list shrinks...
>
> 1. Vette
> 2. Viper
> 3. Solstice/Sky
> 4. Thunderbird
> 5. Panoz Esperante http://www.panozauto.com
>
> Ray


I like both versions of the list, but I'd add the Plymouth Prowler to
both. Retro-rod styling aside, it meets all the other requirements of
both lists.

And if we're going back to add the '55-57 Thunderchickens, there are a
few other oldies that could be added. I don't even want to start
thinking pre-war, it gets way too complicated. :-)

"Steve" > wrote in message
...
> news wrote:

>> Thunderbird
> 1955 thru 1957 ONLY- but good catch, the rest of us forgot it
> completely.

How about 2002-2005? They were two seat convertibles with a V-8.

I don't see either of the recent Cadillac 2 seaters in the list
(Allante and XLR)

How about the Buick Reatta? And the Chrylser TC?

Ed