what exactly happened here?

Hi Earle,
I must be at least irritating the vermin, as they keep changing
their addresses. There's no doubt I've killed a couple of their favorite
user names at:













God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> The most abusive postings seem to come from anonymous remailers. As far as
> I can figure out, these exist, solely to allow people to abuse Usenet with
> impunity. I have heard "freedom of speech", "freedom from political
> persecution", etc. argued for the existence of these pests, but all I have
> **seen** coming from them, is abuse.
>
> Any clue what to do about them?
>
> Earle

Yup, the more the troll posts, the more I have respect for Bill. He's
persuaded some monkey to spend hours of their time posting the same old
insult here. It's a bit like teasing a small dog ; it makes a tremendous
amound of noise while you laugh at it, but ultimately it can't do anything.

Dave

"Nathan W. Collier" > wrote in message
...
> "Josh Piela" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to understand that
> > Bill has ****ed the wrong person off this time. Correct??
>
> bill is a cornerstone of this group. he isnt going anywhere, wait it out
> and the troll will eventually troll on elsewhere.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
>
>

Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> I wonder if it would be possible for the ISP's to filter out posts from
> these anonymous remailers? After all all of this stuff has to come
> through their servers and it's wasting good bandwidth and annoying their
> customers.


YOU could filter out those posts if you so choose.

Bill has been very provocational and feels he is the channelmaster
here and it is easy to see why this has happened. As a matter of fact
if his house BLEW UP one night and everyone inside was killed including
all the other members of his family whom he has senselessly endangered
by his flamboasting I would be less than shocked. Sad of course,
because they had nothing to do with it, but it would not astonish me.

Still, their (the attackers') behavior has been very cowardly.

Since Bill does not appear to post on any other newsgroup, probably
directing your questions to another one might be helpful too.

Today Pink Freud commented courteously on the subject at hand

> On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:19:31 -0400, Josh Piela wrote:
>
> FYI Only
>
>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to
>> understand that
>> Bill has ****ed the wrong person off this time. Correct??
>
> Not quite. Not person, but persons. Many. From many
> different groups.
>
> And because of things like this:
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Hi Josh,
> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses
> you find in
> their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls
> that would spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM
> COMPLAINTS -
> http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtml USENET
> COMPLAINTS -
> http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html PROBE
> ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/9
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> The observer.
>
Several people, including yours truly, have tried to get it
back on track but some folks still want to feed the troll, the
same troll that lights down in a NG until people stop
replying, then he quickly tires and moves on. Just plonk the
fool and move on with your life, it'll help everyone, even the
mentally ill person in question.

--
ATM, aka Jerry

"Never complain, never explain" - Henry Ford II

I am in agreement with Nathan and Kate. Ignore trolls and they vanish.
They have no power if no one acknowledges them.

I like to call this the "Eeyore Effect". Trolls like to make others
feel small, especially if they're smaller than the target, anyway.
That makes the troll look big --he thinks.

Bill is admittedly controversial. But there is more admiration than
scorn; he has much knowledge that he is always willing to share, and he
has experience that few understand. And I admire his restraint. It
has been said that the greatest quality a leader can demonstrate is the
ability to ignore hatred. This is here for all to see.

I don't mind trolls being miserable by themself. But if they insist on
spreading their anger publically, it is wise to follow Bill's example.

-JD

"Bret Ludwig" > wrote

: Since Bill does not appear to post on any other newsgroup, probably
: directing your questions to another one might be helpful too.

Bret, this was sarcasm... right?

Bill has dragged these anonymous anarchists in here with him from the other
groups.

They didn't start here.

Kate

Just what makes you so goddamn proud of ****ing off people like this and
then having them follow you from group to group posting their ilk and
annoying everyone in all of the groups involved?

Honestly Bill, you might try considering the consequences of your actions.
Eventually even those that respect your knowledge and sense of humor may
even turn the other way because of your 'fan club'.
People have a low tolerance for bull****, and that's what this is. I know
that I am certainly sick to death of opening the group to see all of the
posts about your supposed affection for barnyard animals.

I suppose that this being the case I could leave, but unlike some people I
am not normally one to be chased off by undesirables, I like to be the one
to do the chasing.

So, how about you try doing whatever it is you have to do to get these guys
to leave you alone? Next time don't antagonize them.
This all falls back on YOUR shoulders, you have to be the one to deal with
it.
It's time for you to clean up the mess that you tracked into the house Bill.

Damn kids, dress them all up, wash behind their ears and they STILL
embarrass you in front of rich Aunt Tillie.

Kate


"L.W.(Bill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
: Hi Earle,
: I must be at least irritating the vermin, as they keep changing
: their addresses. There's no doubt I've killed a couple of their favorite
: user names at:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
: God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
: http://www.billhughes.com/
:
: Earle Horton wrote:
: >
: > Bill,
: >
: > The most abusive postings seem to come from anonymous remailers. As far
as
: > I can figure out, these exist, solely to allow people to abuse Usenet
with
: > impunity. I have heard "freedom of speech", "freedom from political
: > persecution", etc. argued for the existence of these pests, but all I
have
: > **seen** coming from them, is abuse.
: >
: > Any clue what to do about them?
: >
: > Earle

"Spdloader" > wrote in message
...
: Now, I thought I was very creative, Kate.
:
: ....and honest, too.
:
: Spdloader
:

Awww geeze....
c'mon now,
you know you're one of my favorites.

I thought I was your favorite brother.....even though mom always liked you
best...

"Kate" (please ask)> wrote in message
...
>
> "Spdloader" > wrote in message
> ...
> : Now, I thought I was very creative, Kate.
> :
> : ....and honest, too.
> :
> : Spdloader
> :
>
> Awww geeze....
> c'mon now,
> you know you're one of my favorites.
>
>

"JD Adams" > wrote

:
: Bill is admittedly controversial. But there is more admiration than
: scorn; he has much knowledge that he is always willing to share, and he
: has experience that few understand. And I admire his restraint. It
: has been said that the greatest quality a leader can demonstrate is the
: ability to ignore hatred. This is here for all to see.

I'm not fesharing your opinion here JD.
People can lose admiration and respect for someone, no matter what their
knowledge base is, if they consistantly go out and bring trouble home with
them. A lot of Bill's knowledge can be gained from other sources easily
enough without all of the hooey that is going along with it lately.

In this case, Bill made some waves in another group, or groups and then
rather than quash it, he encouraged it to escalate and now it has landed
here because he is so hammerheaded he will not let it go.

I say he needs to stop it.
I don't admire him for this sort of thing.

The folks in here giving him ego strokes for his actions are not helping
much either. I think Bill **** in his own mess kit.


: I don't mind trolls being miserable by themself. But if they insist on
: spreading their anger publically, it is wise to follow Bill's example.

They wouldn't have been angry if Bill would have stopped poking through the
bars with a stick.


: -JD


:Kate