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Oh, oh! Nathan's got a 'file'!

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Earle Horton wrote:
> "Nathan W. Collier" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>"Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler;
>>>she loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she
>>>doesn't want to get rid of her TJL. :-(
>>
>>i gave up a lot when i got married, but not my nuts!
>>
>>
>>
>>>If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>>
>>whats wrong with an auto?
>>
>
>
> More Classic Nathan Collier -->> http://tinyurl.com/eersv
>
> I believe that this clip addresses the automatic transmission question.
>
>
>>The automatic transmission offered no engine braking,
>>and the truck constantly tried to run away coming
>>down the grades. My wife (in her Jeep Cherokee behind
>>me) had to back off because her eyes were watering
>>from the fumes generated by my burning brakes.
>
>
>
> And I believe that this one addresses the "other" question.
>
>
>>by the time we got into montana, the wifey hated it
>>(due to all the problems along the way). with tears in
>>her eyes she begged me "please take me home,
>>nathan" so thats just what i did. there was no reasoning,
>>there was no point in even trying as i could see it in her
>>eyes that i had no choice. now im stuck here again in this
>>same house in this same [expletive deleted]-hole
>>neighborhood in this same [expletive deleted]-hole state
>>with the only difference being that now im roughly $5,000
>>poorer than i was a few weeks ago.
>
>
> Cheers.
>
> Earle
>
>
>

The truck bed is just sooooo handy though! Man, I can't believe that
Excursion gets 20 mpg! I thought getting 14+ in my Titan was great.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Thing about the 250, it has just barely enough passenger room for the family
> (3 kids, 2 dogs); we traded the wifey's minivan for the Explurgin' , so we
> could have enough pass room and the towing capacity of the 250 in the same
> vehicle. That and the 250 gets 12mpg, while the excursion gets 20.
>
> "twaldron" > wrote in message
> om...
>
>>Yeah, that's a tough call. You've got some nice vehicles. If you're going
>>to hand down the TJ, you'll start jonesing for another Jeep inside 6 mos.,
>>if you haven't already purchased one...but personally, I'd always have to
>>have a SWB one. The Excursion/F250 descision would be easy for me. Keep
>>the F250.
>>
>>tw
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>
>>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>Actually teh TJ is slated to be handed down to the oldest when he gets
>>>his DL, though he doesn't know it yet. So it will probably stay in the
>>>family.
>>>
>>>If we have to get rid of something, it'll probably be the Superduty, we
>>>don't use it much anymore since we added the Excursion to the fleet:
>>>http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>>>
>>>"twaldron" > wrote in message
.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ok, Matt...you are FAR more reasonable than this...it's not a
>>>>husband/wife-boss/servant thing. The TJL would have to be the one to go
>>>>in trade on the 4dr. Leave the SWB TJ at the crib. There will be no
>>>>more....ever.
>>>>
>>>>tw
>>>>______________________________________________ _______________________
>>>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>>______________________________________________ _______________________
>>>>
>>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I made a big boo-boo.
>>>>>
>>>>>Last night the wifey and I were talking Jeeps, and I mentioned in
>>>>>passing that the 07 Wrangler would be a redesign, with a 4-door version,
>>>>>with seating for five. She seemed mildly interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler; she
>>>>>loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she doesn't want to
>>>>>get rid of her TJL. :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>I have to think long and hard about Yes Dear-ing this one. I bought some
>>>>>time when I made the "you shouldn't buy a new design the first couple of
>>>>>model years because of the bugs" speech.
>>>>>
>>>>>If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>>>>>
>>>>>OK, not insist....more like beg.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>

"Nathan W. Collier" > wrote in message
...
> "Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
> ...
> > So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler;
> > she loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she
> > doesn't want to get rid of her TJL. :-(
>
> i gave up a lot when i got married, but not my nuts!
>
>
> > If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>
> whats wrong with an auto?
>

More Classic Nathan Collier -->> http://tinyurl.com/eersv

I believe that this clip addresses the automatic transmission question.

> The automatic transmission offered no engine braking,
> and the truck constantly tried to run away coming
> down the grades. My wife (in her Jeep Cherokee behind
> me) had to back off because her eyes were watering
> from the fumes generated by my burning brakes.


And I believe that this one addresses the "other" question.

> by the time we got into montana, the wifey hated it
> (due to all the problems along the way). with tears in
> her eyes she begged me "please take me home,
> nathan" so thats just what i did. there was no reasoning,
> there was no point in even trying as i could see it in her
> eyes that i had no choice. now im stuck here again in this
> same house in this same [expletive deleted]-hole
> neighborhood in this same [expletive deleted]-hole state
> with the only difference being that now im roughly $5,000
> poorer than i was a few weeks ago.

Cheers.

Earle

6.0L Turbodeisel. Now diesel prices are dropping compared to gas.

"twaldron" > wrote in message
om...
> The truck bed is just sooooo handy though! Man, I can't believe that
> Excursion gets 20 mpg! I thought getting 14+ in my Titan was great.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Thing about the 250, it has just barely enough passenger room for the
>> family (3 kids, 2 dogs); we traded the wifey's minivan for the Explurgin'
>> , so we could have enough pass room and the towing capacity of the 250 in
>> the same vehicle. That and the 250 gets 12mpg, while the excursion gets
>> 20.
>>
>> "twaldron" > wrote in message
>> om...
>>
>>>Yeah, that's a tough call. You've got some nice vehicles. If you're going
>>>to hand down the TJ, you'll start jonesing for another Jeep inside 6
>>>mos., if you haven't already purchased one...but personally, I'd always
>>>have to have a SWB one. The Excursion/F250 descision would be easy for
>>>me. Keep the F250.
>>>
>>>tw
>>>_______________________________________________ ______________________
>>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>_______________________________________________ ______________________
>>>
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Actually teh TJ is slated to be handed down to the oldest when he gets
>>>>his DL, though he doesn't know it yet. So it will probably stay in the
>>>>family.
>>>>
>>>>If we have to get rid of something, it'll probably be the Superduty, we
>>>>don't use it much anymore since we added the Excursion to the fleet:
>>>>http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>>>>
>>>>"twaldron" > wrote in message
y.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ok, Matt...you are FAR more reasonable than this...it's not a
>>>>>husband/wife-boss/servant thing. The TJL would have to be the one to go
>>>>>in trade on the 4dr. Leave the SWB TJ at the crib. There will be no
>>>>>more....ever.
>>>>>
>>>>>tw
>>>>>_____________________________________________ ________________________
>>>>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>>
>>>>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>>
>>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>>
>>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>>>_____________________________________________ ________________________
>>>>>
>>>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I made a big boo-boo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Last night the wifey and I were talking Jeeps, and I mentioned in
>>>>>>passing that the 07 Wrangler would be a redesign, with a 4-door
>>>>>>version, with seating for five. She seemed mildly interested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler; she
>>>>>>loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she doesn't want to
>>>>>>get rid of her TJL. :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have to think long and hard about Yes Dear-ing this one. I bought
>>>>>>some time when I made the "you shouldn't buy a new design the first
>>>>>>couple of model years because of the bugs" speech.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>OK, not insist....more like beg.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>

I live in Southeast Michigan, which negates the chances of getting a
Japanese nameplate. :-)

"Earle Horton" > wrote in message
om...
>I saw an Excursion in Vitoria, Spain. I couldn't believe it, what with the
> price of fuel over there. "Look at me! I have more money than the
> Onassises!" I wonder how they got it? You have a decent fleet, but you
> need to get some older stuff, and an econo-car or two. Like this
> http://www.puresuzuki.com/
>
> Earle
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Actually teh TJ is slated to be handed down to the oldest when he gets
>> his
>> DL, though he doesn't know it yet. So it will probably stay in the
>> family.
>>
>> If we have to get rid of something, it'll probably be the Superduty, we
>> don't use it much anymore since we added the Excursion to the fleet:
>> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>>
>> "twaldron" > wrote in message
>> m...
>> > Ok, Matt...you are FAR more reasonable than this...it's not a
>> > husband/wife-boss/servant thing. The TJL would have to be the one to go
> in
>> > trade on the 4dr. Leave the SWB TJ at the crib. There will be no
>> > more....ever.
>> >
>> > tw
>> > __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> > 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>> >
>> > "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>> >
>> > Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>> >
>> > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> > capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> > __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> >
>> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> >> I made a big boo-boo.
>> >>
>> >> Last night the wifey and I were talking Jeeps, and I mentioned in
> passing
>> >> that the 07 Wrangler would be a redesign, with a 4-door version, with
>> >> seating for five. She seemed mildly interested.
>> >>
>> >> So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler; she
>> >> loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she doesn't want to
> get
>> >> rid of her TJL. :-(
>> >>
>> >> I have to think long and hard about Yes Dear-ing this one. I bought
> some
>> >> time when I made the "you shouldn't buy a new design the first couple
> of
>> >> model years because of the bugs" speech.
>> >>
>> >> If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>> >>
>> >> OK, not insist....more like beg.
>> >>
>>
>>
>
>

I saw an Excursion in Vitoria, Spain. I couldn't believe it, what with the
price of fuel over there. "Look at me! I have more money than the
Onassises!" I wonder how they got it? You have a decent fleet, but you
need to get some older stuff, and an econo-car or two. Like this
http://www.puresuzuki.com/

Earle

"Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
...
> Actually teh TJ is slated to be handed down to the oldest when he gets his
> DL, though he doesn't know it yet. So it will probably stay in the family.
>
> If we have to get rid of something, it'll probably be the Superduty, we
> don't use it much anymore since we added the Excursion to the fleet:
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>
> "twaldron" > wrote in message
> m...
> > Ok, Matt...you are FAR more reasonable than this...it's not a
> > husband/wife-boss/servant thing. The TJL would have to be the one to go
in
> > trade on the 4dr. Leave the SWB TJ at the crib. There will be no
> > more....ever.
> >
> > tw
> > __________________________________________________ ___________________
> > 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> >
> > "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> > capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> > __________________________________________________ ___________________
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >> I made a big boo-boo.
> >>
> >> Last night the wifey and I were talking Jeeps, and I mentioned in
passing
> >> that the 07 Wrangler would be a redesign, with a 4-door version, with
> >> seating for five. She seemed mildly interested.
> >>
> >> So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler; she
> >> loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she doesn't want to
get
> >> rid of her TJL. :-(
> >>
> >> I have to think long and hard about Yes Dear-ing this one. I bought
some
> >> time when I made the "you shouldn't buy a new design the first couple
of
> >> model years because of the bugs" speech.
> >>
> >> If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
> >>
> >> OK, not insist....more like beg.
> >>
>
>

We all have our own "file"! Sshhh!

Earle

"twaldron" > wrote in message
om...
> Oh, oh! Nathan's got a 'file'!
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > "Nathan W. Collier" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>"Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >>>So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler;
> >>>she loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she
> >>>doesn't want to get rid of her TJL. :-(
> >>
> >>i gave up a lot when i got married, but not my nuts!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
> >>
> >>whats wrong with an auto?
> >>
> >
> >
> > More Classic Nathan Collier -->> http://tinyurl.com/eersv
> >
> > I believe that this clip addresses the automatic transmission question.
> >
> >
> >>The automatic transmission offered no engine braking,
> >>and the truck constantly tried to run away coming
> >>down the grades. My wife (in her Jeep Cherokee behind
> >>me) had to back off because her eyes were watering
> >>from the fumes generated by my burning brakes.
> >
> >
> >
> > And I believe that this one addresses the "other" question.
> >
> >
> >>by the time we got into montana, the wifey hated it
> >>(due to all the problems along the way). with tears in
> >>her eyes she begged me "please take me home,
> >>nathan" so thats just what i did. there was no reasoning,
> >>there was no point in even trying as i could see it in her
> >>eyes that i had no choice. now im stuck here again in this
> >>same house in this same [expletive deleted]-hole
> >>neighborhood in this same [expletive deleted]-hole state
> >>with the only difference being that now im roughly $5,000
> >>poorer than i was a few weeks ago.
> >
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> >
> >

Earle Horton wrote:
>

>
> I believe that this clip addresses the automatic transmission question.
>
> > The automatic transmission offered no engine braking,
> > and the truck constantly tried to run away coming
> > down the grades.

Sure sound to me like someone that had no clue how to drive an
automatic.

All the automatics I have ever owned had this neat little feature called
a shift lever. When I used to use it, I would actually be able to slow
my vehicle down, especially handy on long mountain passes in the
Rockies. Even better for real slow if you own a Jeep that has a low
range. You can even get a 1st gear limiter for those.

But if you are so spooked you can't handle the thought of down shifting
an auto, well maybe you shouldn't be off road to start or tackle any of
them mountain passes. At least read up on the Darwin Awards so you know
what you are getting yourself into.... ;-)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

"Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in
:

> If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the
> JK.
>
> OK, not insist....more like beg.

Why not discuss it with her and then do exactly what she wants?
Believe me, you'll be much happier in the long run!

"Watch out for a man who says he's boss in his own home because he'll
lie about other things, too!" ;-)

"Earle Horton" > wrote in message
om...
> More Classic Nathan Collier -->> http://tinyurl.com/eersv

heh.....youre obscession with me sure is cute earle. :-)


> And I believe that this one addresses the "other" question.

dont believe it does earle.....considering where im sitting right now as i
type this. try again. :-)

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