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Worth Paying for one more rotation?
The OEM tires on my '07 Accord EX-L V6 Sedan (Michelin Pilot MXM4,
215/50-17) show even tread wear but three of them are between 5/32 and 6/32 tread depth while the RF has 7/32. They've got about about 33,000 miles on them. I'm due for an A-1 service (oil change, tire rotation) and wondering if it's worth paying for the rotation seeing as how they'll probably need to replaced sooner rather than later. |
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Paladin > wrote in news:itm1dc$b7a$1
@news.albasani.net: > The OEM tires on my '07 Accord EX-L V6 Sedan (Michelin Pilot MXM4, > 215/50-17) show even tread wear but three of them are between 5/32 and > 6/32 tread depth while the RF has 7/32. They've got about about 33,000 > miles on them. > > I'm due for an A-1 service (oil change, tire rotation) and wondering if > it's worth paying for the rotation seeing as how they'll probably need > to replaced sooner rather than later. How much are they charging for the rotation itself? -- Tegger |
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On 6/20/11 3:14 PM, Tegger wrote:
> > wrote in news:itm1dc$b7a$1 > @news.albasani.net: > >> The OEM tires on my '07 Accord EX-L V6 Sedan (Michelin Pilot MXM4, >> 215/50-17) show even tread wear but three of them are between 5/32 and >> 6/32 tread depth while the RF has 7/32. They've got about about 33,000 >> miles on them. >> >> I'm due for an A-1 service (oil change, tire rotation) and wondering if >> it's worth paying for the rotation seeing as how they'll probably need >> to replaced sooner rather than later. > > > > How much are they charging for the rotation itself? > > $20 |
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Paladin > wrote in :
> On 6/20/11 3:14 PM, Tegger wrote: >> > wrote in news:itm1dc$b7a$1 >> @news.albasani.net: >> >>> The OEM tires on my '07 Accord EX-L V6 Sedan (Michelin Pilot MXM4, >>> 215/50-17) show even tread wear but three of them are between 5/32 and >>> 6/32 tread depth while the RF has 7/32. They've got about about 33,000 >>> miles on them. >>> >>> I'm due for an A-1 service (oil change, tire rotation) and wondering if >>> it's worth paying for the rotation seeing as how they'll probably need >>> to replaced sooner rather than later. >> >> >> >> How much are they charging for the rotation itself? >> >> > > $20 > For a measly $20, I'd get it done. Surely you'll get that back in slightly longer tire life, maybe even $20 more life. -- Tegger |
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On 06/20/2011 04:48 PM, Tegger wrote:
> > wrote in : > >> On 6/20/11 3:14 PM, Tegger wrote: >>> > wrote in news:itm1dc$b7a$1 >>> @news.albasani.net: >>> >>>> The OEM tires on my '07 Accord EX-L V6 Sedan (Michelin Pilot MXM4, >>>> 215/50-17) show even tread wear but three of them are between 5/32 and >>>> 6/32 tread depth while the RF has 7/32. They've got about about 33,000 >>>> miles on them. >>>> >>>> I'm due for an A-1 service (oil change, tire rotation) and wondering if >>>> it's worth paying for the rotation seeing as how they'll probably need >>>> to replaced sooner rather than later. >>> >>> >>> >>> How much are they charging for the rotation itself? >>> >>> >> >> $20 >> > > > > For a measly $20, I'd get it done. > > Surely you'll get that back in slightly longer tire life, maybe even $20 > more life. i'll take the longer survival life of the driver thanks. rotation ruins traction and braking control because it reduces the amount of actual rubber contacting the pavement. -- nomina rutrum rutrum |
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jim beam > wrote in
t: > On 06/20/2011 04:48 PM, Tegger wrote: >> >> >> For a measly $20, I'd get it done. >> >> Surely you'll get that back in slightly longer tire life, maybe even >> $20 more life. > > i'll take the longer survival life of the driver thanks. rotation > ruins traction and braking control because it reduces the amount of > actual rubber contacting the pavement. > > You have some pretty odd ideas, sir. -- Tegger |
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On 06/20/2011 05:22 PM, Tegger wrote:
> jim > wrote in > t: > >> On 06/20/2011 04:48 PM, Tegger wrote: > >>> >>> >>> For a measly $20, I'd get it done. >>> >>> Surely you'll get that back in slightly longer tire life, maybe even >>> $20 more life. >> >> i'll take the longer survival life of the driver thanks. rotation >> ruins traction and braking control because it reduces the amount of >> actual rubber contacting the pavement. >> >> > > > You have some pretty odd ideas, sir. > > one of the things you learn early on in materials science is that the micro determines the macro. [this is an observation principle many never learn, and even some who have been taught, never fully appreciate.] thus, if you methodically observe the "micro" of the tire's behavior, you will understand the "macro" of its performance. i've repeated the description of this easy-to-do-for-yourself experiment on this forum many times - chalk up some hdfb, lay it on some flat road and with your "has been in this position for a few thousand miles now" tires still in those positions, drive across it. take a pic of the rubber blocks on the tire, and what percentage of each is chalked. then rotate the tires, and repeat [taking the trouble to drive around the block to de-chalk from last time of course]. you will see a dramatic reduction in the contact area on each single block, particularly the ones at the edges of the tire. this is the reason why the "sport" car manufacturer segment recommends /against/ tire rotation - this reduced contact area. and they're making sense because some clown jumping into their m5 [bmw is one such manufacturer that recommends against rotation] and trying to take an on-ramp at the same speed they always do will quickly come to grief because of it. "good riddance to that guy" you may say, but the same applies to your wife driving the kiddies to school - her emergency braking distance will be increased in proportion to the reduced rubber contact area after a rotation. i'm sure you don't want that, and now you can do your chalk experiment, you can prove what i've said for yourself. reality is, perpetuation of the tire rotation mantra is both ill informed and anachronistic for today's radial tires. some people say it because either their cars are crap and can't track a tire straight under any circumstances, they don't know how the tire actually behaves, or because they think it's some kind of legal cya. all are ridiculous imo. -- nomina rutrum rutrum |
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On 06/21/2011 06:29 AM, Paladin wrote:
> On 6/21/11 8:45 AM, Tegger wrote: >> "Elmo P. > wrote in news:elmop- >> : >> >>> In >, >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>> i'll take the longer survival life of the driver thanks. rotation >>>>> ruins traction and braking control because it reduces the amount of >>>>> actual rubber contacting the pavement. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You have some pretty odd ideas, sir. >>> >>> ...ideas which BMW put into writing and practice some time ago, for the >>> same reasons jim outlines. >>> >>> There is no tire rotation for BMW vehicles. >> >> >> >> jim says that the reason you shouldn't rotate tires is because of >> temporarily-reduced contact patch when the tires change positions. And >> this >> is perfectly true. >> >> It's also true that if you never rotate your tires, you will maintain >> maximal contact patch through out the tires' life. For race cars, or >> road- >> going performance-cars such as BMWs, this is important when >> approaching the >> limits of the cars' capabilities. >> >> Unfortunately, maintaining maximal contact-patch has a tradeoff: shorter >> usable tire life. Without rotation, the portions of the tread that wear >> most will reach their wear-limit more quickly than if the tires had been >> subject to different wear-patterns regularly. >> >> Does the temporarily-reduced contact-patch make any real difference to >> the >> handling and safety of daily-driver Hondas that are driven the way most >> people drive them? I don't think so. I think most people appreciate >> getting >> the longest life they can out of their Honda's tires, and are unlikely to >> drive their Hondas the way race cars are driven. >> >> > > Man....ask a simple question! Hey, thanks for the advice. > > I'd post a longer reply but I'm out here on the interstate commuting to > work. I don't want to take the risk of raising the sun-tinted Polaroid > visor on my racing helmet so I can see the cell phone screen more > clearly-- nor taking off my fireproof nomex racing gloves to get my > fingers on the tiny little keyboard better. > > Shoot, there's the dreaded yellow flag-- backing it down past 150 mph > now. Good damn thing my tires are so grippy...only the inside two are > contacting the pavement as I make this tight turn... wow, i wish i lived where you live. great wide straight flat roads, perfect weather all the time, no other doofuses on the road to change lanes without using their mirrors. and no kids chasing out into the street either. at least, i hope not... -- nomina rutrum rutrum |
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