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  #131  
Old February 20th 18, 10:25 PM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
ultred ragnusen
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Default Can you teach me more about lug bolts & related tire tools?

rbowman > wrote:

> I use the HF sockets and wrenches in my bike toolkits. If the kit gets
> ripped off I can replace it for about $50 and they get the job done.
> Other HF purchases haven't worked as well. When it comes to HF, the
> fewer moving parts the better.


I agree with you that the HF quality isn't always the best, but, it's "good
enough" for some jobs, where, I can tell you that the tire-changing tools
are OK for the number of tires we will be doing in our lifetimes.

I would gladly buy a wrench set for the emergency kit of my car from HF,
but I wouldn't use it as my primary set of wrenches (almost all of which
are Craftsman, which is middle-of-the-line stuff, IMHO).

The thing I have to stress about the HF tire mounter is that you can only
use the bead breaker attachment on easy tires such as a Japanese import
economy car, where it works ok on my European sport sedan, but it fails
miserably (it literally bends) on the SUV tires.

The other thing I stress about the HF mounter is that you must bolt it
down. You can get away with not bolting it down, but it's just not worth
the trouble that causes, compared to the slight issue of drilling four bolt
holes and popping in the inserts. I just leave mine in but you can unbolt
it in a couple of minutes if you want to store it collapsed.

As for the bed breaking tool, it too has a slight problem with SUV tires,
but all tires smaller are no contest. The SUV tires are too big for the
base, so they flip up, which in one of the videos you see a guy not
realizing that. The solution is simple, which is to put a board on the
base, which prevents the wheel from popping up on the side opposite where
you're trying to break the bead. With that simple addition, it works fine
for SUV tires.

I have no complaints with the static balance tool. I think it's a bit
pricey for what it is (it's just a cone-shaped bubble balance) but it's all
aluminum and it stores easily and certainly is easy to use so it does the
job.
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  #132  
Old February 21st 18, 02:43 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Clare Snyder
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Default Can you teach me more about lug bolts & related tire tools?

On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 17:05:28 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
> wrote:

>In article >,
> alan_m > wrote:
>> I predict that staying in the EU or leaving will have exactly the same
>> result with regards car assembly - it will migrate towards the poorer
>> Eastern European countries in much the same way as many other industries
>> have disappeared from the UK during the 40 years of EEC/EU membership.

>
>> Ask French and German car workers why their jobs are at risk, and both
>> these countries are not leaving the EU.

>
>There is more to making cars - especially above budget level - than just
>finding the cheapest place to do it.



But apparently nothing the UK has to offer - - -
  #133  
Old February 21st 18, 02:45 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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On 2/20/2018 12:05 PM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article >,
> alan_m > wrote:
>> I predict that staying in the EU or leaving will have exactly the same
>> result with regards car assembly - it will migrate towards the poorer
>> Eastern European countries in much the same way as many other industries
>> have disappeared from the UK during the 40 years of EEC/EU membership.

>
>> Ask French and German car workers why their jobs are at risk, and both
>> these countries are not leaving the EU.

>
> There is more to making cars - especially above budget level - than just
> finding the cheapest place to do it.
>


The robots don't care where they are. OTOH, look where the car makers
have put up plants. No new ones in Detroit, New York, or California.
Mexico has some.

How about a Hungary Mercedes
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...t-germany.html

  #134  
Old February 21st 18, 02:53 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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On 20/02/2018 20:01, rbowman wrote:
> On 02/20/2018 05:21 AM, alan_m wrote:
>> On 20/02/2018 04:58, ultred ragnusen wrote:
>>> Â* wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Take a look at that biker's concept of a "pocket knife" at 53 seconds!
>>>>> https://youtu.be/M5_nK8V-nU0?t=53
>>>>
>>>> Compared to what's in my pocket at the moment...
>>>> http://www.coldsteel.com/recon-1-tan...0-50-edge.html
>>>>
>>>> After using it for a few years, I'm not that crazy about the tanto
>>>> style, but it is good for prying out nails.
>>>
>>> Jesus. That's battle gear for heaven's sake!
>>>
>>> This is what I consider to be a typical pocket knife.
>>> https://media.midwayusa.com/producti...365/365933.jpg
>>>

>>
>> Carry the former in the UK and you would probably be arrested if stopped
>> or if you used it in public.
>>
>>

>
> Thanks the Gods I don't live in the UK. I have many knives and I'm sure
> they are all illegal in the UK.


Thank god we don't have the killings other countries seem to suffer.


  #135  
Old February 21st 18, 05:07 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
rbowman
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On 02/20/2018 06:53 PM, Fredxx wrote:
> On 20/02/2018 20:01, rbowman wrote:
>> On 02/20/2018 05:21 AM, alan_m wrote:
>>> On 20/02/2018 04:58, ultred ragnusen wrote:
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Take a look at that biker's concept of a "pocket knife" at 53
>>>>>> seconds!
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/M5_nK8V-nU0?t=53
>>>>>
>>>>> Compared to what's in my pocket at the moment...
>>>>> http://www.coldsteel.com/recon-1-tan...0-50-edge.html
>>>>>
>>>>> After using it for a few years, I'm not that crazy about the tanto
>>>>> style, but it is good for prying out nails.
>>>>
>>>> Jesus. That's battle gear for heaven's sake!
>>>>
>>>> This is what I consider to be a typical pocket knife.
>>>> https://media.midwayusa.com/producti...365/365933.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Carry the former in the UK and you would probably be arrested if stopped
>>> or if you used it in public.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Thanks the Gods I don't live in the UK. I have many knives and I'm
>> sure they are all illegal in the UK.

>
> Thank god we don't have the killings other countries seem to suffer.
>
>

You are working on it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39729601

Try a little more diversity and you'll make the grade.
  #136  
Old February 21st 18, 05:31 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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Default Can you teach me more about lug bolts & related tire tools?

On 20/02/2018 10:45 PM, alan_m wrote:
> On 20/02/2018 08:33, ultred ragnusen wrote:
>
>> Luckily it's easy to dismount, remount, and statically balance (and
>> dynamically test) a tire yourself,

>
> You are joking! I've seen on many occasions how much effort goes into
> removing/replacing a tyre from/on the rim using the specialised tyre
> fitting equipment. There is also the 15/30 minutes for blowing up a
> completely flat tyre with one of those little 12V compressors that fit
> into the cigarette lighter socket.
>
> I can just see all those inexperienced people breaking/chipping their
> alloy rims using breaker bars.
>
> For the money I pay to get a puncture repaired (and dynamically
> balanced) by a tyre shop it's not worth the effort to even consider
> Do-it-Yourself.Â* Without researching prices, I'll bet here in the UK the
> cost of obtaining one or two proper tyre repair patches would actually
> be close to the cost of using someone who does it for a living.
>

I'm with you. Repairing punctures was something I had to do as part of
my trade. Even with the gear, it was a pain to do, especially truck and
tractor tyres. At 65, I'm quite happy to pay someone much younger to do
the job for me.


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  #137  
Old February 21st 18, 11:19 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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On 21/02/2018 01:45, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>
> The robots don't care where they are.Â* OTOH, look where the car makers
> have put up plants.Â* No new ones in Detroit, New York, or California.
> Mexico has some.


The robots may not care where they live but it still needs a large,
mainly unskilled or semi-skilled workforce to feed them and to perform
all the other tasks that currently cannot be assigned to robots.

The location of new assembly plants probably has more to do with who can
give the biggest grant or subsidy in the guise of regional aid for
deprived areas or just a government willing to forego taxes in order to
create jobs in n area.

I doubt if there are many car factories these days where a whole car is
manufactured on the premises. Often engines and gearboxes are
manufactured in a single plant and then shipped worldwide and the same
item ends up in many competing brands. In the past I have seen user
reviews where they claim that the power-train in brand X is a lot better
than that in brand Y whereas they are exactly the same.

It's much the same in other industries. How many companies actually make
the LCD screens for large screen TVs? How many consumer items are just
badged? Here in the UK well known brand names have been purchased to
allow the brand badge to be used on no-name electronics or other goods.
I'm aware of at least one item of electronics where the identical item
was sold under 4 different brand names, all at different prices, to
cater for those with brand loyalty and to fleece those who believe that
band A is better quality than brand B, even though brand B as an
independent company went bust a decade before.


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  #138  
Old February 21st 18, 11:34 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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On 21/02/2018 04:07, rbowman wrote:

> Try a little more diversity and you'll make the grade.


We are getting there. The new weapon of choice seems to be throwing acid.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/401685...rns-sufferers/

Those carrying out attacks can be charged with Grievous Bodily Harm
(GBH) with intent which carries a maximum life sentence.

The best way to avoid these attacks in the UK is don't get involved with
domestic violence and don't attend any nightclub where there only claim
to fame is that they are frequented by Z list celebrities.


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  #139  
Old February 21st 18, 11:50 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
ultred ragnusen
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rbowman > wrote:

> Can you say 'lawyer'? I've spent some time in southern AZ close to the
> border. It's refreshing to deal with Mexican mechanics. They still use a
> bit of ingenuity.


Speaking of ingenuity, check out this redneck rear rotor surfacing
technique at home, with a grinder and while the rotors are spinning.
https://youtu.be/q5p-KHkx1YA?t=123

I guess it works for driven wheels only though.
https://youtu.be/SUIJySdkCZk?t=370
https://youtu.be/xokh96wRxb4?t=236
https://youtu.be/YsfadqO9V2A?t=55
https://youtu.be/rum-Wlok7n4?t=2

I guess this is how rednecks do the non-driven wheels.
https://youtu.be/R9qCFfDiw5A?t=350
https://youtu.be/Qgz3BnWpeUg?t=22
https://youtu.be/NxLeKG-oRmc?t=67
https://youtu.be/7dFBaLCjYck?t=71
  #140  
Old February 21st 18, 12:39 PM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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On 21/02/2018 10:50, ultred ragnusen wrote:

> Speaking of ingenuity, check out this redneck rear rotor surfacing
> technique at home, with a grinder and while the rotors are spinning.


Judging by those videos you don't need to ban guns in the USA - just ban
power tools!

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