Of Old Farts and dinosaurs...

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> On Feb 28, 9:45 pm, "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote:
>
>> > If I can run the same traps as these new sedans and I only have
>> > 235, I'm pretty sure I'd wipe them out if I had 105 more ponies.
>
>> I'm not saying a Camry can walk over a Fox Mustang with no options
>> (i.e. light weight), slicks, other mods and/or a very good driver.
>> They can more than hang with the AVERAGE bone stock Fox Mustang
>> sporting a manual transmission.
>
> And I agree with this.
>
>> Run one against a bone stock Fox car with an automatic
>> and my money will be on the new Camry V-6.
>
> Me too.
>
> An otherwise stock Fox
>> Mustang with a crate motor and an AUTOMATIC transmission isn't going
>> to destroy some of these new sedans.
>
> Auto trans, 3.73 gears, shift kit and a 340 crate motor and it's a
> wipe out.
>
>> To do that they would have to run
>> 0-60 times in under five seconds and burn through the 1/4 mile in the
>> low 13 second range. IMO, you'll need a lot more than just a crate
>> motor to make that happen.
>
> See above.
>
>> A bone stock 5.0L Mustang with an automatic would be lucky to run the
>> 1/4 mile in under 15 seconds. I know because I owned one for two
>> years. They were not that fast.
>
> I agree. 73s, 08s and even 27s with the old AOD is not a rapid
> transit system. But with the normally installed 73s or 4.10s, and
> shift kit, things get livened up quite a bit.
>
>>Since 10 hp is worth about a tenth in the 1/4 mile that extra 105 hp
>>you get with the crate motor might shave a full second off the ET to
>>get the car to the high 13s at best.
>
> With just the above mods I've seen them run mid 14s.
>
>> Throw
>> slicks on the Mustang and a few other mods and things change but then
>> we are talking about a different race.
>
> Not sure how we got a 340 crate behind _just_ an automatic. I agree
> they're a bigger challenge to make them fast. I assumed we were
> talking about the common racers choice -- a 5-speed. And in this
> case, with one packing a 340 HP crate, your common Camrys, Altimas,
> etc, are going to get roasted.
>
> Patrick

The stock AOD is a POS. Throw a LenTech behind that 340 crate motor
with 3.73s (see above) and some decent rubber and you have _consistent_
mid-13s at worst. That's a fairly decent step above most cars today.