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Old March 4th 05, 10:43 PM
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Cobra Jet wrote:

> OK, fair enough. Perhaps you'd like to do the following,
> as long as you're stuck in a dead-end data-entry cubicle
> job after failing miserably as a lawyer:


I don't know where that came from, but it's a lie. What would you know
about jobs, anyway? When is the last time you held one? My guess is
you're either living on the dole, most likely on a faked-up SSI
disability, or you told a stack of lies to some plaintiff's lawyer and
scored a six figure payday somewhere along the way.

As for the rest, I've seen that "crystal ball" line of yours often
enough for it to peg MY bull**** meter. You spend half your free time
-- which is to say half your time, period! -- typing up your automotive
exploits on the Usenet, but whenever you're called on anything you hide
behind this dodge, that you have this hush-hush secret life where you
do all the reeeally cool stuff. And all this "I was there in the day"
crap. What a joke. Four years reading your posts and I've never read
a single post about you actually working on an on-topic car, or even
driving one. Let alone racing one. Plenty about lead-butting it
around in an ex-cop Crown Vic, but never a word from the real world
about anything on-topic. Just a lot of second hand info from magazines
and from web searches.

So, after four years of this same-old, here's what I know:

Starting with the often-mentioned CJ car collection, here's the
inventory, from a Sept 2004 thread:

'63 Galaxie Country Sedan Wagon - 390
'64 Monterey Marauder - 390
'64 Fairlane 500 Ranch Wagon
'65 Olds Starfire - 425
'65 Galaxie 500
'65 Comet 404
'66 Mercury Colony Park Wagon - 410
'67 Mercury Commuter Wagon
'67 Cougar - 289
'67 Cyclone GT Convertible - 390GT
'68 Olds 4-4-2 - 400
'68 Torino GT - 390GT
'68 Mustang GT/California Special - 289
'69 Plymouth Satellite - 383HP - 4 spd - 4 dr
'69 Mustang Coupe - 302
'69 Cougar XR7 428 Cobra Jet
'69 Cyclone CJ 428 Cobra Jet
'69 Fairlane 428 Cobra Jet Automatic
'69 Fairlane 428 Cobra Jet Stick
'70 Cyclone Spoiler 429 Cobra Jet
'70 Torino GT - 351C
'70 Torino Brougham 351C
'70 Plymouth Road Runner - 440HP
'72 F-250 Camper Special
'73 Mustang - engineless
'73 F-100 Ranger XLT - built 460
'76 E-250 Econoline - 351W
'86 Cougar - 232
'97 Crown Vic Police Interceptor
'?? Toyota Celica - parting out

There might be an '82 Accord in there too.

Only the '64 Fairlane wagon, the '70 Torino Brougham, the '73 F-100,
and the Crown Victoria were running as of Sept '04. The F-100 and the
Torino were recent purchases at that time, but the engine has since
been pulled from the pickup to go into the Torino, so I guess the F-100
is not running anymore, either.

The others are in storage. None of them is ever driven or worked on.
30 cars. Way more projects than you can ever hope to handle. You
could pass them along to someone who would bring them back to life.
But then what would happen to the myth of CJ? So all these cool old
cars just sit and rot.

As far as you being there "in the day," you turned 16 in about 1972,
meaning for example that you were about 5 years old when the 427 FE
came out, and about 14 when the last 428 Cobra Jet rolled off the line.


At some point in the mid-70's you bought the above-mentioned '68 289
GT/CS, and that was the beginning -- and possibly the end -- of your
actual real-world experience. You might even have street raced it a
couple times. How many actual races? Who knows? 20 per year, for two
or three years? All of them between 25 and 30 years ago. Any trips
down a real drag strip? You've mentioned ET's, so I guess you must
have run a few laps. I'm guessing not very many. I know during this
period you installed one engine in the GT/CS, so maybe you built it
too. That makes one engine you've built.

At some point in the late '70's to mid-'80's, you moved from L.A. to
Phoenix, leaving the by-then broken down GT/CS behind in Cali. You
owned a car stereo shop. And THAT'S where your question about "all the
automotive electronics" comes from -- car stereos and car alarms.
Yeah, I'm guessing you've got everybody in the NG beat on that kind of
work, by a factor of ten. Should we be impressed?

During the stereo shop era the Fox-body '86 3.8 Cougar was your driver.
I'm guessing it was also during this period that you began collecting
all the old iron. Some of the oldies must have filled the gap as
drivers, between the defunct GT/CS and the '86 Cougar. Maybe you raced
some of them, but I have never read a post saying so. Most of them,
and eventually all of them, just sat baking in the sun.

In the late '90's the '86 Cougar gave way to an '82 Accord. The Honda
was your driver from the beginning of your Usenet career until a couple
years ago, when you switched to the ex-cop '97 Crown Victoria.

So as far as I can tell the engine swap from the F-100 into the Torino
is the first time since the late '70's or early '80's that you're
actually working on a car. And during that time your REAL bad rides
have been a six-cyl Cougar, a four-cyl Honda, and a 281 ci two ton
taxicab. BBA all the way, baby.

As for NoOp Patrick, in a February 1999 post he says he has owned these
cars:

'68 383 Super Bee
'68 318 Dodge pickup
'67 283 Impala
'68 289 Comet
'76 360 Dodge pickup
'73 VW Vanagon
'87 5.0 Mustang LX - first new car
'95 Accord EX =A0
'93 Cobra

The '93 Cobra was a recent acquisition as of Feb '99.

Patrick also wrote this: "I grew up near Detroit and my two older
brothers were car crazy. =A0They owned a '69 and '72 Chevelle, '74
Javelin, '68 Mustang fastback, and a '69 Cougar XR7 convertible."

Put it all together and you'd have to say that Patrick has as much or
more hands-on experience with carbureted V8 iron as he has with the EFI
stuff.

Patrick took a car to the dragstrip for the first time in 1988, the car
being his '87 5.0. As of Sept '99 he could say he'd gone about 4-5
times per year since then. I don't think he's been back much since
'99. This is because he's a career non-commissioned officer in the Air
Force. Since I've been reading the NG, I know the USAF sent him from
Albuquerque to Turkey for a couple years, then to Florida. Between
1988 and today he's also raised two kids to college age. He sold the
'87 5.0 in 1999. He still has the Cobra, and also has a Fox-body LTD.

If you squint real hard, you might recognize these activities as "real
life." Also sometimes referred to as "pulling your own weight"; living
for something other than your own self-gratification.

I mean, here you are, nearly 50 years of age, and your only
responsibility in life is to keep a bag of cat food in the house.

So you don't care what anyone's "crystal ball" says, you've got all
these secret projects going on that you never write about. It's so
much more interesting to type that 100th reference to Arrogant *******
Ale or tell us about the glories of driving an ex cop car on the
freeway, than actually sharing a real life on-topic activity. That's
what we're supposed to believe, anyway.

Sorry, I've been seeing the same **** for four years. Now for the
first time in all those years you've actually got a project going, and
boy the attitude we're all seeing now. For the first time in 20 years
you're actually getting that black crud under your fingernails,
familiar to all of us who actually work on our cars, and the rest of us
better stand back. Super Cobra Jet, the guy who's "been there, done it
several times, got the t-shirts, and has modified the t-shirts to fit
better." All the time you know it's not true, and you let guys like
John here believe it anyway.

180 Out

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  #12  
Old March 4th 05, 10:44 PM
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Cobra Jet wrote:

> OK, fair enough. Perhaps you'd like to do the following,
> as long as you're stuck in a dead-end data-entry cubicle
> job after failing miserably as a lawyer:


I don't know where that came from, but it's a lie. What would you know
about jobs, anyway? When is the last time you held one? My guess is
you're either living on the dole, most likely on a faked-up SSI
disability, or you told a stack of lies to some plaintiff's lawyer and
scored a six figure payday somewhere along the way.

As for the rest, I've seen that "crystal ball" line of yours often
enough for it to peg MY bull**** meter. You spend half your free time
-- which is to say half your time, period! -- typing up your automotive
exploits on the Usenet, but whenever you're called on anything you hide
behind this dodge, that you have this hush-hush secret life where you
do all the reeeally cool stuff. And all this "I was there in the day"
crap. What a joke. Four years reading your posts and I've never read
a single post about you actually working on an on-topic car, or even
driving one. Let alone racing one. Plenty about lead-butting it
around in an ex-cop Crown Vic, but never a word from the real world
about anything on-topic. Just a lot of second hand info from magazines
and from web searches.

So, after four years of this same-old, here's what I know:

Starting with the often-mentioned CJ car collection, here's the
inventory, from a Sept 2004 thread:

'63 Galaxie Country Sedan Wagon - 390
'64 Monterey Marauder - 390
'64 Fairlane 500 Ranch Wagon
'65 Olds Starfire - 425
'65 Galaxie 500
'65 Comet 404
'66 Mercury Colony Park Wagon - 410
'67 Mercury Commuter Wagon
'67 Cougar - 289
'67 Cyclone GT Convertible - 390GT
'68 Olds 4-4-2 - 400
'68 Torino GT - 390GT
'68 Mustang GT/California Special - 289
'69 Plymouth Satellite - 383HP - 4 spd - 4 dr
'69 Mustang Coupe - 302
'69 Cougar XR7 428 Cobra Jet
'69 Cyclone CJ 428 Cobra Jet
'69 Fairlane 428 Cobra Jet Automatic
'69 Fairlane 428 Cobra Jet Stick
'70 Cyclone Spoiler 429 Cobra Jet
'70 Torino GT - 351C
'70 Torino Brougham 351C
'70 Plymouth Road Runner - 440HP
'72 F-250 Camper Special
'73 Mustang - engineless
'73 F-100 Ranger XLT - built 460
'76 E-250 Econoline - 351W
'86 Cougar - 232
'97 Crown Vic Police Interceptor
'?? Toyota Celica - parting out

There might be an '82 Accord in there too.

Only the '64 Fairlane wagon, the '70 Torino Brougham, the '73 F-100,
and the Crown Victoria were running as of Sept '04. The F-100 and the
Torino were recent purchases at that time, but the engine has since
been pulled from the pickup to go into the Torino, so I guess the F-100
is not running anymore, either.

The others are in storage. None of them is ever driven or worked on.
30 cars. Way more projects than you can ever hope to handle. You
could pass them along to someone who would bring them back to life.
But then what would happen to the myth of CJ? So all these cool old
cars just sit and rot.

As far as you being there "in the day," you turned 16 in about 1972,
meaning for example that you were about 5 years old when the 427 FE
came out, and about 14 when the last 428 Cobra Jet rolled off the line.


At some point in the mid-70's you bought the above-mentioned '68 289
GT/CS, and that was the beginning -- and possibly the end -- of your
actual real-world experience. You might even have street raced it a
couple times. How many actual races? Who knows? 20 per year, for two
or three years? All of them between 25 and 30 years ago. Any trips
down a real drag strip? You've mentioned ET's, so I guess you must
have run a few laps. I'm guessing not very many. I know during this
period you installed one engine in the GT/CS, so maybe you built it
too. That makes one engine you've built.

At some point in the late '70's to mid-'80's, you moved from L.A. to
Phoenix, leaving the by-then broken down GT/CS behind in Cali. You
owned a car stereo shop. And THAT'S where your question about "all the
automotive electronics" comes from -- car stereos and car alarms.
Yeah, I'm guessing you've got everybody in the NG beat on that kind of
work, by a factor of ten. Should we be impressed?

During the stereo shop era the Fox-body '86 3.8 Cougar was your driver.
I'm guessing it was also during this period that you began collecting
all the old iron. Some of the oldies must have filled the gap as
drivers, between the defunct GT/CS and the '86 Cougar. Maybe you raced
some of them, but I have never read a post saying so. Most of them,
and eventually all of them, just sat baking in the sun.

In the late '90's the '86 Cougar gave way to an '82 Accord. The Honda
was your driver from the beginning of your Usenet career until a couple
years ago, when you switched to the ex-cop '97 Crown Victoria.

So as far as I can tell the engine swap from the F-100 into the Torino
is the first time since the late '70's or early '80's that you're
actually working on a car. And during that time your REAL bad rides
have been a six-cyl Cougar, a four-cyl Honda, and a 281 ci two ton
taxicab. BBA all the way, baby.

As for NoOp Patrick, in a February 1999 post he says he has owned these
cars:

'68 383 Super Bee
'68 318 Dodge pickup
'67 283 Impala
'68 289 Comet
'76 360 Dodge pickup
'73 VW Vanagon
'87 5.0 Mustang LX - first new car
'95 Accord EX =A0
'93 Cobra

The '93 Cobra was a recent acquisition as of Feb '99.

Patrick also wrote this: "I grew up near Detroit and my two older
brothers were car crazy. =A0They owned a '69 and '72 Chevelle, '74
Javelin, '68 Mustang fastback, and a '69 Cougar XR7 convertible."

Put it all together and you'd have to say that Patrick has as much or
more hands-on experience with carbureted V8 iron as he has with the EFI
stuff.

Patrick took a car to the dragstrip for the first time in 1988, the car
being his '87 5.0. As of Sept '99 he could say he'd gone about 4-5
times per year since then. I don't think he's been back much since
'99. This is because he's a career non-commissioned officer in the Air
Force. Since I've been reading the NG, I know the USAF sent him from
Albuquerque to Turkey for a couple years, then to Florida. Between
1988 and today he's also raised two kids to college age. He sold the
'87 5.0 in 1999. He still has the Cobra, and also has a Fox-body LTD.

If you squint real hard, you might recognize these activities as "real
life." Also sometimes referred to as "pulling your own weight"; living
for something other than your own self-gratification.

I mean, here you are, nearly 50 years of age, and your only
responsibility in life is to keep a bag of cat food in the house.

So you don't care what anyone's "crystal ball" says, you've got all
these secret projects going on that you never write about. It's so
much more interesting to type that 100th reference to Arrogant *******
Ale or tell us about the glories of driving an ex cop car on the
freeway, than actually sharing a real life on-topic activity. That's
what we're supposed to believe, anyway.

Sorry, I've been seeing the same **** for four years. Now for the
first time in all those years you've actually got a project going, and
boy the attitude we're all seeing now. For the first time in 20 years
you're actually getting that black crud under your fingernails,
familiar to all of us who actually work on our cars, and the rest of us
better stand back. Super Cobra Jet, the guy who's "been there, done it
several times, got the t-shirts, and has modified the t-shirts to fit
better." All the time you know it's not true, and you let guys like
John here believe it anyway.

180 Out

  #13  
Old March 5th 05, 12:09 AM
CobraJet
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In article <8t5Wd.841$gJ3.273@clgrps13>, Merc >
wrote:

> Have you and one80out had a falling out CobraJet?


Nah, old William is just frustrated with life and he thinks he's on
a mission.

>
>
> Merc
> Thundersnake#16
> 69 machclone 351W that wants to be a 427W soooooo bad.
>
>
>
> "CobraJet" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article .com>,
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > CobraJet wrote:
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > John wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > If I may explain the diff. using a cliche:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > CJ - Been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has
> > > > > modified
> > > > > > the t-shirts to fit better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know where you newer Thundersnakes are getting your info,
> > > but
> > > > > you've pretty much got that backwards.
> > > > >
> > > > > 180 Out
> > > > >
> > > > Are you trying to convince *anyone* that Patrick knows more about
> > > > this stuff than I do?
> > >
> > > No, what I wrote is that Patrick has a better claim to "been there done
> > > that" than you do. Emphasis on the "doing," not the "knowing." I
> > > don't know where the newbies are getting their info, but it doesn't
> > > match what I've been reading in these groups the past four years.
> > >
> > > 180 Out
> > >

> >
> > OK, fair enough. Perhaps you'd like to do the following, as long as
> > you're stuck in a dead-end data-entry cubicle job after failing
> > miserably as a lawyer:
> >
> > 1) Show us all the engines, drivetrains, and automotive electronics
> > Patrick has worked on since he was born. Plug and oil changes don't
> > count.
> >
> > 2) Show us all the engines, drivetrains, and automotive electronics
> > that I have worked on since born. Also, explain how what you've seen in
> > the last four years tells you about my life experiences offline.
> > Alternately, you can give us the name of the crystal ball maker that
> > you and Patrick buy from.
> >
> > 3) Google up the thousands of RAMFM posts I've had since '98,
> > extract the flame-based content, and figure out who, besides Bill S.,
> > has flung more classic tech into this group than I.
> >
> > 4) Consult your crystal ball and see why I don't care.
> >
> > --
> > CobraJet
> > Thunder Snake #1

>
>


--
CobraJet
Thunder Snake #1
  #14  
Old March 5th 05, 12:27 AM
CobraJet
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In article . com>,
> wrote:

> Cobra Jet wrote:
>
> > OK, fair enough. Perhaps you'd like to do the following,
> > as long as you're stuck in a dead-end data-entry cubicle
> > job after failing miserably as a lawyer:


Hot damn! I snap my fingers and cubicle boy does the work! At least
you got the car list right. The rest you get a D on. Not for effort,
but for thinking that *anyone* relates his entire life to Usenet. I've
never seen a single person write a detailed biography here. Have you?

In a court of law, your smegmatic expulsion would amount to hearsay
and would fall woefully astray of conveying factual information. It's
no wonder you failed as a lawyer.

I understand you, though. You're at a crossroads in your life, and
it pains you to think that other people may have had a more interesting
past than you. But it's OK, William, you are still needed by society.

After all, *somebody* has to enter that data.

>
> I don't know where that came from, but it's a lie. What would you know
> about jobs, anyway? When is the last time you held one? My guess is
> you're either living on the dole, most likely on a faked-up SSI
> disability, or you told a stack of lies to some plaintiff's lawyer and
> scored a six figure payday somewhere along the way.
>
> As for the rest, I've seen that "crystal ball" line of yours often
> enough for it to peg MY bull**** meter. You spend half your free time
> -- which is to say half your time, period! -- typing up your automotive
> exploits on the Usenet, but whenever you're called on anything you hide
> behind this dodge, that you have this hush-hush secret life where you
> do all the reeeally cool stuff. And all this "I was there in the day"
> crap. What a joke. Four years reading your posts and I've never read
> a single post about you actually working on an on-topic car, or even
> driving one. Let alone racing one. Plenty about lead-butting it
> around in an ex-cop Crown Vic, but never a word from the real world
> about anything on-topic. Just a lot of second hand info from magazines
> and from web searches.
>
> So, after four years of this same-old, here's what I know:
>
> Starting with the often-mentioned CJ car collection, here's the
> inventory, from a Sept 2004 thread:
>
> '63 Galaxie Country Sedan Wagon - 390
> '64 Monterey Marauder - 390
> '64 Fairlane 500 Ranch Wagon
> '65 Olds Starfire - 425
> '65 Galaxie 500
> '65 Comet 404
> '66 Mercury Colony Park Wagon - 410
> '67 Mercury Commuter Wagon
> '67 Cougar - 289
> '67 Cyclone GT Convertible - 390GT
> '68 Olds 4-4-2 - 400
> '68 Torino GT - 390GT
> '68 Mustang GT/California Special - 289
> '69 Plymouth Satellite - 383HP - 4 spd - 4 dr
> '69 Mustang Coupe - 302
> '69 Cougar XR7 428 Cobra Jet
> '69 Cyclone CJ 428 Cobra Jet
> '69 Fairlane 428 Cobra Jet Automatic
> '69 Fairlane 428 Cobra Jet Stick
> '70 Cyclone Spoiler 429 Cobra Jet
> '70 Torino GT - 351C
> '70 Torino Brougham 351C
> '70 Plymouth Road Runner - 440HP
> '72 F-250 Camper Special
> '73 Mustang - engineless
> '73 F-100 Ranger XLT - built 460
> '76 E-250 Econoline - 351W
> '86 Cougar - 232
> '97 Crown Vic Police Interceptor
> '?? Toyota Celica - parting out
>
> There might be an '82 Accord in there too.
>
> Only the '64 Fairlane wagon, the '70 Torino Brougham, the '73 F-100,
> and the Crown Victoria were running as of Sept '04. The F-100 and the
> Torino were recent purchases at that time, but the engine has since
> been pulled from the pickup to go into the Torino, so I guess the F-100
> is not running anymore, either.
>
> The others are in storage. None of them is ever driven or worked on.
> 30 cars. Way more projects than you can ever hope to handle. You
> could pass them along to someone who would bring them back to life.
> But then what would happen to the myth of CJ? So all these cool old
> cars just sit and rot.
>
> As far as you being there "in the day," you turned 16 in about 1972,
> meaning for example that you were about 5 years old when the 427 FE
> came out, and about 14 when the last 428 Cobra Jet rolled off the line.
>
>
> At some point in the mid-70's you bought the above-mentioned '68 289
> GT/CS, and that was the beginning -- and possibly the end -- of your
> actual real-world experience. You might even have street raced it a
> couple times. How many actual races? Who knows? 20 per year, for two
> or three years? All of them between 25 and 30 years ago. Any trips
> down a real drag strip? You've mentioned ET's, so I guess you must
> have run a few laps. I'm guessing not very many. I know during this
> period you installed one engine in the GT/CS, so maybe you built it
> too. That makes one engine you've built.
>
> At some point in the late '70's to mid-'80's, you moved from L.A. to
> Phoenix, leaving the by-then broken down GT/CS behind in Cali. You
> owned a car stereo shop. And THAT'S where your question about "all the
> automotive electronics" comes from -- car stereos and car alarms.
> Yeah, I'm guessing you've got everybody in the NG beat on that kind of
> work, by a factor of ten. Should we be impressed?
>
> During the stereo shop era the Fox-body '86 3.8 Cougar was your driver.
> I'm guessing it was also during this period that you began collecting
> all the old iron. Some of the oldies must have filled the gap as
> drivers, between the defunct GT/CS and the '86 Cougar. Maybe you raced
> some of them, but I have never read a post saying so. Most of them,
> and eventually all of them, just sat baking in the sun.
>
> In the late '90's the '86 Cougar gave way to an '82 Accord. The Honda
> was your driver from the beginning of your Usenet career until a couple
> years ago, when you switched to the ex-cop '97 Crown Victoria.
>
> So as far as I can tell the engine swap from the F-100 into the Torino
> is the first time since the late '70's or early '80's that you're
> actually working on a car. And during that time your REAL bad rides
> have been a six-cyl Cougar, a four-cyl Honda, and a 281 ci two ton
> taxicab. BBA all the way, baby.
>
> As for NoOp Patrick, in a February 1999 post he says he has owned these
> cars:
>
> '68 383 Super Bee
> '68 318 Dodge pickup
> '67 283 Impala
> '68 289 Comet
> '76 360 Dodge pickup
> '73 VW Vanagon
> '87 5.0 Mustang LX - first new car
> '95 Accord EX *
> '93 Cobra
>
> The '93 Cobra was a recent acquisition as of Feb '99.
>
> Patrick also wrote this: "I grew up near Detroit and my two older
> brothers were car crazy. *They owned a '69 and '72 Chevelle, '74
> Javelin, '68 Mustang fastback, and a '69 Cougar XR7 convertible."
>
> Put it all together and you'd have to say that Patrick has as much or
> more hands-on experience with carbureted V8 iron as he has with the EFI
> stuff.
>
> Patrick took a car to the dragstrip for the first time in 1988, the car
> being his '87 5.0. As of Sept '99 he could say he'd gone about 4-5
> times per year since then. I don't think he's been back much since
> '99. This is because he's a career non-commissioned officer in the Air
> Force. Since I've been reading the NG, I know the USAF sent him from
> Albuquerque to Turkey for a couple years, then to Florida. Between
> 1988 and today he's also raised two kids to college age. He sold the
> '87 5.0 in 1999. He still has the Cobra, and also has a Fox-body LTD.
>
> If you squint real hard, you might recognize these activities as "real
> life." Also sometimes referred to as "pulling your own weight"; living
> for something other than your own self-gratification.
>
> I mean, here you are, nearly 50 years of age, and your only
> responsibility in life is to keep a bag of cat food in the house.
>
> So you don't care what anyone's "crystal ball" says, you've got all
> these secret projects going on that you never write about. It's so
> much more interesting to type that 100th reference to Arrogant *******
> Ale or tell us about the glories of driving an ex cop car on the
> freeway, than actually sharing a real life on-topic activity. That's
> what we're supposed to believe, anyway.
>
> Sorry, I've been seeing the same **** for four years. Now for the
> first time in all those years you've actually got a project going, and
> boy the attitude we're all seeing now. For the first time in 20 years
> you're actually getting that black crud under your fingernails,
> familiar to all of us who actually work on our cars, and the rest of us
> better stand back. Super Cobra Jet, the guy who's "been there, done it
> several times, got the t-shirts, and has modified the t-shirts to fit
> better." All the time you know it's not true, and you let guys like
> John here believe it anyway.
>
> 180 Out
>


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Old March 5th 05, 02:24 AM
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In article >, Joe
> wrote:

> CobraJet > wrote in
> :
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> >> Cobra Jet wrote:

> <non-smegma content snipped>
> > In a court of law, your smegmatic expulsion would amount to
> > hearsay

> <more non-smegma content snipped>
>
> Wow, another reference to 'smegma'. How gutteral.


Thank you. I have to keep the status quo alive here, even if I have
to coin new smegmaniferous words.

>
> Joe
> Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC


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Old March 5th 05, 02:37 AM
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> I understand you, though. You're at a crossroads in your life, and


***Instructions for reading this post***


1. Everything within () are thoughts, and there are several layers.

2. Read entirely.



Hey, CJ, just WHOA there....


((whinny, WHINN-NEH-NEH-NY [EERRRRT, TIRES GO "SCREECH"!])

(Just what the hell is this? WHAT DIID HEEEE MEAN BY THAT!!!????

A JOKE, OR WTF, OR MY GOD HE'S A DAMNED FREAKIN.....
WTF WITH THIS "CROSSROADS" BULL****??? I SWEAR, I... ARRGH

I JUST SAID THAT, DAMMIT, AND NOW -HE- PLAYS ME THE FOOL....
OH.. RRGHTFT... RAGA FRAGGA SNAGGA RAZZLE!!!

HUFF PUFF UNGH
BLOOD PRESSURE JACKS UP - GOTTA BE 200/100 -

WHAT A L-L-LIAR-! A DAMNED FOOL IDIOT! FREAKIN IGNORAMUS!
JUST WHAT IS HE SAYING!!?? MY INTEGRITY!!

WTF? SPLUTTER! RAGE!!!))

...

(Oh, FRENCH, yeah... he HATES the French... so this'll get him good!
Throw in some SPANISH, TOO, because THIS Insufferable Mofo lives in
Phoenix!! HA HAAA)

"Qu'est-ce que vous me dites, alors, Serpent de Tonnerre #1??
QUE VOULEZ-VOUS DIRE??"

żY que es esta mierda que viene de su boca?

Vous puez comme BJ, putain sale !

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(-oh, wait a minute-)

..
..
..

(-just relax, relax. Ree-lax. It was a joke -a joke-)

..
..
..

("Breathe, J, breathe... in through nose, out through mouth...
in through nose, out through mouth... now begin... repeat, relax...

..
..

your hands are warm... your feet are warm...
but *you're* cool... you're chilled out... warm... cool...

'Mel-low... mel-low... mel-low... there... you feel better, man? You
feel mellow? Yeahhhh....'

..
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(sigh)

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("Om Tryam Backam Yashamahey
Sugon Teem Push Devar Khanam
Uvwar Ukhamava Bondanam

Mirtygor Moksheeya Mamrupath
Mirtygor Moksheeya Mamrupath
Mirtygor Moksheeya Mamrupath

Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
........................"

Much better.... better....)

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Heh. Good one, CJ!

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Old March 5th 05, 03:11 AM
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CobraJet wrote:

> > > If I may explain the diff. using a cliche:


> > > CJ - Been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has
> > > modified the t-shirts to fit better.


> > > Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts.


> > I don't know where you newer Thundersnakes are getting your info,
> > but you've pretty much got that backwards.


> Are you trying to convince *anyone* that Patrick knows more about
> this stuff than I do?


Do I know more than you about this stuff...? What I think is that you
have the reference manual from hell, that's what I think. Even with
out the manual, I wouldn't doubt you know more about the classic stuff
because you live there. Automotively, for you, the world stopped
somewhere around '73-'74. So you only need to know about 10 years
worth. Study that small amount of information long enough and you
_should_ know it upside down and backwards. Myself, on the other hand,
was just like you until the '82 GT Mustang made its debut. Then I
started gobbling up info on every subsequent model year of car since,
plus some foreign, so of course my knowledge on the details of the old
stuff is going to be foggy in comparision. Try stuffing about 33 years
of automotive info in your brain. And even the 70's stuff I like to
read about now, so the 33 years of info is up to nearly 40, and
growing.

But that's just talking about "knowing". Expirience is something else.
Am I claiming, or have I ever claimed to be, a mechanic? No. Am I
afraid to get my hands dirty? No. Here's my list of things I've done:

replaced starter
rebuilt/installed carbs
replaced water pumps
replaced rocker arms
replaced cam/bearings
installed U/D pullies
installed timing chain
installed headers, x & h pipes
installed rear gears
replaced alternator
installed clutch cables/quadrants
performed brake jobs - including drum
replaced rotors & calipers
installed shift kit
replaced valve cover gaskets
replaced/swapped intake manifolds
installed shocks
replaced radiators/hoses
repacked/replaced wheel bearings
replaced a computer
installed shifters
replaced fenders/doors/hoods
stripped paint
performed bodywork/paint prep
replaced/installed oak bed in pickup
replaced/installed throttle body/EGR/TPS sensor/mass-air meter & sensor
replaced clutch on an A/C compressor
all the tune-up junk (points, plugs, wires ect.) and various sensors

Things I haven't done, but would love to. Never pulled heads, got in
the bottom end, rebuilt a trans, and have never done a clutch job
(Never needed to. My LX's had more than a 100K on its original when I
sold the car, and my Cobra's has a 100K on it now and it still has
plenty of bite). I'd like to do these four tasks, but so far I haven't
needed to. But to be honest, I wouldn't do them right now because my
Cobra is my daily driver, that is unless I had a knowledgeable friend
looking over my shoulder.

So that's it for the "plug-n-play guy".

Your turn to step up to the plate, self-proclaimed, "Mr. Gearhead".

Patrick
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Whoa! You can tell this guy *is* a lawyer. Kinda reminds me of a
young Tom Cruise grilling Jack Nickelson in the final act of a "Few
Good Men".

> > OK, fair enough. Perhaps you'd like to do the following,
> > as long as you're stuck in a dead-end data-entry cubicle
> > job after failing miserably as a lawyer:


> I don't know where that came from, but it's a lie.


It's his typical smear campaign. I've grown used to it.

<snip>

> As for the rest, I've seen that "crystal ball" line of yours often
> enough for it to peg MY bull**** meter. You spend half your free
> time -- which is to say half your time, period! -- typing up your
> automotive exploits on the Usenet, but whenever you're called on
> anything you hide behind this dodge,


Yes, the "dodge". The short list is thousands of pounds of old car
magazines, time slips, and let's add one more -- some recent pictures
of all these classics. Got links?

> that you have this hush-hush secret life where you do all the
> reeeally cool stuff. And all this "I was there in the day" crap.
> What a joke. Four years reading your posts and I've never read
> a single post about you actually working on an on-topic car, or even
> driving one. Let alone racing one. Plenty about lead-butting it
> around in an ex-cop Crown Vic, but never a word from the real world
> about anything on-topic. Just a lot of second hand info from
> magazines and from web searches.


I remember CJ showing up sometime around '97, so it isn't just "four
years" it's about eight.

> So, after four years of this same-old, here's what I know:


> Starting with the often-mentioned CJ car collection, here's the
> inventory, from a Sept 2004 thread:


> '63 Galaxie Country Sedan Wagon - 390
> '64 Monterey Marauder - 390
> '64 Fairlane 500 Ranch Wagon
> '65 Olds Starfire - 425
> '65 Galaxie 500
> '65 Comet 404
> '66 Mercury Colony Park Wagon - 410
> '67 Mercury Commuter Wagon
> '67 Cougar - 289
> '67 Cyclone GT Convertible - 390GT
> '68 Olds 4-4-2 - 400
> '68 Torino GT - 390GT
> '68 Mustang GT/California Special - 289
> '69 Plymouth Satellite - 383HP - 4 spd - 4 dr
> '69 Mustang Coupe - 302
> '69 Cougar XR7 428 Cobra Jet
> '69 Cyclone CJ 428 Cobra Jet
> '69 Fairlane 428 Cobra Jet Automatic
> '69 Fairlane 428 Cobra Jet Stick
> '70 Cyclone Spoiler 429 Cobra Jet
> '70 Torino GT - 351C
> '70 Torino Brougham 351C
> '70 Plymouth Road Runner - 440HP
> '72 F-250 Camper Special
> '73 Mustang - engineless
> '73 F-100 Ranger XLT - built 460
> '76 E-250 Econoline - 351W
> '86 Cougar - 232
> '97 Crown Vic Police Interceptor
> '?? Toyota Celica - parting out


> There might be an '82 Accord in there too.


I think he dumped this one, or it's now on blocks too.

CJ, here's what I would do. You're 50. You have more project cars
than you have years left driving. The market prices for these cars is
high right now. Even if they're in rough shape you could still net a
tidy sum. I would pick maybe 3-4 of the good/really special ones from
your lot and keep them. All the rest I'd sell, and the proceeds I
would take and do a complete resto on those 3 or 4 special ones. I'd
rather have 3-4 cherries, than 20+ hulks. Let the young guys bring
those others back, you spend some time enjoying/driving a few, if it is
only 3 or 4. Do it, now!

<snip>

> The others are in storage. None of them is ever driven or worked on.
> 30 cars. Way more projects than you can ever hope to handle. You
> could pass them along to someone who would bring them back to life.
> But then what would happen to the myth of CJ? So all these cool old
> cars just sit and rot.


Be good to them, CJ... let 'em go. Imagine some young guy bringing one
back to life and then bringing it over for you to approve. In my book,
THAT would be pretty freaking awesome!

> As for NoOp Patrick,


Oh ****, the Cruise missile is onto me.

> in a February 1999 post he says he has owned these cars:


> '68 383 Super Bee


Either I fat fingered or you did. It was a '69.

> '68 318 Dodge pickup
> '67 283 Impala
> '68 289 Comet
> '76 360 Dodge pickup
> '73 VW Vanagon
> '87 5.0 Mustang LX - first new car
> '95 Accord EX ?


The Accord is the wife's car.

> '93 Cobra


> The '93 Cobra was a recent acquisition as of Feb '99.


It was December '98, which makes it anything but "recent". She's just
about to turn 100K, but it still looks/runs like a car less than half
her age.

> Patrick also wrote this: "I grew up near Detroit and my two older
> brothers were car crazy. ? They owned a '69 and '72 Chevelle, '74
> Javelin, '68 Mustang fastback, and a '69 Cougar XR7 convertible."


Later my one brother added a '90 GT 'vert and a '66 Shelby GT-350H.

> Put it all together and you'd have to say that Patrick has as much or
> more hands-on experience with carbureted V8 iron as he has with the
> EFI stuff.


Carbs, never again. Unless it's complex carbs before a workout/run.

> Patrick took a car to the dragstrip for the first time in 1988, the
> car being his '87 5.0. As of Sept '99 he could say he'd gone about
> 4-5 times per year since then. I don't think he's been back much
> since '99. This is because he's a career non-commissioned officer in
> the Air Force. Since I've been reading the NG, I know the USAF sent
> him from Albuquerque to Turkey for a couple years, then to Florida.
> Between 1988 and today he's also raised two kids to college age.


The kids. My son is like a brother and he's my very best friend. He
is an *amazing* kid -- a two time Congressional Medal award winner,
graduated second in his class of nearly 200 with a 4.6 something GPA,
and earned a scholorship at a TOP university. His maturity at 19
rivals some adults at 40, I kid you not. My daughter is not as gifted,
but what a fighter. Worked her butt off and paid cash for her first
car, and has paid nearly every penny of her college so far. She'll
earn her associates in June. She's awesome... a beauty inside and out.
The guy that gets her is going to be one lucky dude.

Sorry, can't mention the kids or I'll start rambling.

> He sold the '87 5.0 in 1999. He still has the Cobra, and also has a
> Fox-body LTD.


I raced the LX so many times on the strip and street the carpeting
under the gas pedal was probably worn through. I got groups of time
slips from that car. It's amazing the original clutch/trans never
hiccuped.

Patrick
'93 Cobra

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Old March 5th 05, 01:03 PM
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> John wrote:
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>> If I may explain the diff. using a cliche:

>
>> CJ - Been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has
>> modified the t-shirts to fit better.

>
> That's yet to be determined.
>
>> Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts.

>
> And my t-shirts say, has completed 5Ks, 10Ks and half marathons. Wanna
> race?


Sure, using my rules. The first one to puke wins!

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Old March 5th 05, 01:31 PM
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> John wrote:
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>> If I may explain the diff. using a cliche:
>>
>> CJ - Been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has

> modified
>> the t-shirts to fit better.
>>
>> Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts.

>
> I don't know where you newer Thundersnakes are getting your info, but
> you've pretty much got that backwards.


Backwards? That's not my perception. Patrick definitely knows more about
this stuff than me, but CJ is on a higher level than that. Could CJ be
creating all that information and responses by sitting in front of his Mac
with a stack of magazines and books by his side and not having "walked the
walk", in essence, creating his CJ persona? I don't think so. Again, my
perception.

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