"Sobriety Checkpoints"

Jim Yanik wrote:

> Bob Lutz > wrote in
> newsan.2005.01.07.01.55.12.626542@blutz:
>
>
>>As my fellow Coloradoans are aware, they just wrapped up their holiday
>>weekend "The Heat is On" campaign.
>>
>>This may have been answered elsewhere, if so, point me in the right
>>direction.
>>
>>How exactly does the state get away with stopping motorists at a
>>'checkpoint'? Seems to me they have to have 'probable cause', and I'm
>>not sure the mere act of driving late at night constitutes that.
>>
>>
>
>
> One way is calling it "random" because they take 10 cars and let the rest
> pass while the grill the 10 captives.Then grab 10 more.
> It truly IS unconstitutional;it interferes with their free travel without
> probable cause.It should not matter what mode of transportation is being
> used.It's no different than being accosted by highwaymen.

Not here (DC and VA) they don't. They block off a road and stop
everybody. Now they only give "extra attention" to those actually
appearing inebriated, but EVERYONE has to stop, there's no flagging down
of every 3rd car or anything, it is a hard checkpoint.

>
> A prime example of how our Judges are destroying the Constitution,by
> judicial activism.
> Any decent judge would/should toss out any arrests made by "sobriety
> checkpoints".(roadblocks)
> It would be different if the police had rolling wolf-packs and observed a
> vehicle behaving erratically,saw an infraction,or noticed a vehicle problem
> such as a dead or wrongly aimed headlight,or excessively loud stereo.It
> would even be legit for them to wait down the road from known bars and stop
> those observed to be driving erratically.
>

Agreed 100%. Probably would be more effective as well.

nate

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>James C. Reeves Jan 6, 7:57 pm

>How does the level of penalty change the method/type of enforcement?

Hey stupid. If DUIs knew they'd get prison time, they wouldn't drive
drunk and we wouldn't need checkpoints. And those few that still did
drive would find themselves in prison and no longer on the highways.
STOP BEING A CRIMINAL CODDLER.

>James C. Reeves Jan 6, 7:57 pm

>How does the level of penalty change the method/type of enforcement?

Hey stupid. If DUIs knew they'd get prison time, they wouldn't drive
drunk and we wouldn't need checkpoints. And those few that still did
drive would find themselves in prison and no longer on the highways.
STOP BEING A CRIMINAL CODDLER.

But the real answer still is stiff penalties. You can't let these
deadly murderers off with fines.. If you knew that a DUI conviction
meant mandatory prison time and suspension of DL for 5 years following
incarceration, would you do it?

STOP THE CRIMINAL CODDLING

But the real answer still is stiff penalties. You can't let these
deadly murderers off with fines.. If you knew that a DUI conviction
meant mandatory prison time and suspension of DL for 5 years following
incarceration, would you do it?

STOP THE CRIMINAL CODDLING

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

> But the real answer still is stiff penalties. You can't let these
> deadly murderers off with fines.. If you knew that a DUI conviction
> meant mandatory prison time and suspension of DL for 5 years following
> incarceration, would you do it?
>
> STOP THE CRIMINAL CODDLING
>

I don't do it, you illiterate moron. I'm still inconvenienced and
delayed by the police, even though they have no reason to suspect me of
being under the influence of anything harder than caffeine.

nate

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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

> But the real answer still is stiff penalties. You can't let these
> deadly murderers off with fines.. If you knew that a DUI conviction
> meant mandatory prison time and suspension of DL for 5 years following
> incarceration, would you do it?
>
> STOP THE CRIMINAL CODDLING
>

I don't do it, you illiterate moron. I'm still inconvenienced and
delayed by the police, even though they have no reason to suspect me of
being under the influence of anything harder than caffeine.

nate

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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> But the real answer still is stiff penalties. You can't let these
> deadly murderers off with fines.. If you knew that a DUI conviction
> meant mandatory prison time and suspension of DL for 5 years
following
> incarceration, would you do it?
>
> STOP THE CRIMINAL CODDLING
Right on! Arrest Tubby Kennedy for murder, NOW!!!

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> But the real answer still is stiff penalties. You can't let these
> deadly murderers off with fines.. If you knew that a DUI conviction
> meant mandatory prison time and suspension of DL for 5 years
following
> incarceration, would you do it?
>
> STOP THE CRIMINAL CODDLING
Right on! Arrest Tubby Kennedy for murder, NOW!!!

Yup. Just like murderers, rapists, and robbers know they'll get prison
time. That's why there are no murders, rapes, or robberies in America.
Care to try again when you've grown a clue?