Tire question

Next time I plan on driving 250 mph or re-fitting my Concorde I'll
insist on Michelin. Until then I'll go with something that offers a
far better ROI.



On May 31, 8:55*pm, wrote:
> Only Michelin runs on the world's fastest production cars (>250MPH
> Bugatti Veyron) and they came up with an aviation tire solution after
> the Concord accident in Paris that every other company is now using.
> (That Concord was using GoodYear).
>
> Why would anyone want anything less than a Michelin??
>

On May 31, 10:44*pm, Gary L. Burnore > wrote:
> On Sun, 31 May 2009 21:45:12 -0400, Nate Nagel > top
> posted like an ignorant moron and wrote:
>
> >I agree that Michelin makes a good tire
>
> Sure, if you want to over-pay for a name.

In the case of my pickup truck, they were actually less expensive than
the comparable BFG tire.

>
> > and in fact I have a set on my
> >truck. *They no longer make a tire in the factory size for my car
> >however (215/60VR15) apparently 60 series tires are no longer
> >performance tires!
>
> The size of the tire has nothing to do with the performance rating.

It does when nobody makes a V-rated tire in the size that I need!

>
> > Which is a shame because I still have a pair of good
> >XGT V4s... *only affordable option in that size/speed rating is
> >Yokohama, and that's a summer only tire.
>
> So what's your point? *You'd run a "performance" tire in snow?

My point is that I now need to run two different sets of tires
depending on the season, because nobody makes a V-rated all season
tire in my size. I probably could find an all season tire with a
lower speed rating, but good luck finding a tire shop that will sell
you an H-rated tire for a car that is supposed to have V-rated
tires...

Additionally, I am annoyed that I can't buy Michelins in particular,
because I have had repeated balance/trueness problems with the
Yokohamas, while experience has taught me that it is very rare to have
these issues with Michelins. Oddly enough I have *not* had those
problems with my Dunlop snow tires.

nate

> wrote:
>
>When I had a big name shop do some brake work for me, I asked them
>to rotate the tires. I am not on the highway much, so the shimmy
>problem was sort of ignorable. Now I see that I've got tire damage.
>So, this is, like, due to the tires not being balanced, right?

Maybe. What kind of damage is it? When did you last have an alignment?
Was it aligned by someone who knew what they were doing or a kid from the
chain store?

If it WAS a balancing issue, it may have been balanced when it left the
shop but one of the weights got damaged.

>They were nice new tires when I bought the car a couple of years ago.
>I suppose I don't have any griping rights with the brake shop, how
>about the tire shop the previous owner got them from?

No, you have only yourself to blame, for ignoring the shimmy. If you have
a front-end issue, you can put new tires on there and damage those too.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

"T & K kloth" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Built_Well" > wrote in message
>> anews.com...
>> > Hi gang! Well, time to rotate tires and change oil again. My '06
> Camry's
>> >
>> > manual calls for simple front-to-rear tire rotation, keeping the tires
> on
>> >
>> > the * same side * of the car. However, my tires are not
>> > uni-directional
>> >
>> > tires (there is no arrow displayed on the sidewall), so I was wondering
> if
>> >
>> > it would be okay on the Camry LE to rotate its tires front to rear and
>> >
>> > criss-cross the rear tires to the front, so eventually every tire will
> do
>> >
>> > service at each of the 4 axles? This would seem to me to provide the
> most
>> >
>> > even wear on each of the 4 tires. Anything wrong with my plan? And
>> > why
>> >
>> > would the manual instruct owners to rotate tires as if the tires were
>> >
>> > uni-directional, even though the tires are not unidirectional? The
>> >
>> > manual's method keeps tires on the same side of the vehicle forever.
>> >
>> > Thanks very much in advance :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Radial tires do not like to change sides. Rotate front to rear, do not
>> cross.
>>
>
> Sorry Jeff, your information is out of date.
>
> Tim K
>
>

Tell that the the automakers and the tire companies.

>
> I also have an Avalon. Michelins, even with rotation, lasted less than
> 30K.
> These tires dont have a long treadlife.
>
> I just replaced them with Kumho Platinums, assymetric, with 60K treadlife.
> So far, they are great.
>

Let me be a little more specific. These PARTICULAR Michelins dont seem to
have
a long treadlife.

I have had several sets of Michelins of other types, on other cars, and have
gotten
ca 70K out of them. I am in general a strong supporter of Michelin.

I had looked into buying a Porsche but was put off by the expensive tires
which had to
be changed very frequently ( 15-20K miles or so). They were that way to
give the ride
that many Porsche owners wanted. Same for Avalon, I think.

> >
> > I also have an Avalon. Michelins, even with rotation, lasted less than
> > 30K.
> > These tires dont have a long treadlife.
> >

This is surprising. I bought Michelins for my old Camry not too long ago.
The original Michelins on the car had 85K+ miles on them. The least
expensive Michelins I could find had a 45K mile tread life. I think
something else is going on here. Were the tires properly inflated? Did
they wear evenly? Do you like to smoke the tires when pulling away from the
light? Wait, I take that last question back. I don't think that's possible
with an Avalon.

Tim K
1997 Avalon > 2003 Camry > 2008 Avalon

"T & K kloth" > wrote in message
...
>
>> >
>> > I also have an Avalon. Michelins, even with rotation, lasted less than
>> > 30K.
>> > These tires dont have a long treadlife.
>> >
>
> This is surprising. I bought Michelins for my old Camry not too long ago.

####Your old Camry didnt come with this type of tire. (and it IS a fairly
expensive tire...I believe they were $185 each to replace) It is VERY
possible
to buy Michelins that will give you 70-80k for some applications.

> The original Michelins on the car had 85K+ miles on them. The least
> expensive Michelins I could find had a 45K mile tread life. I think
> something else is going on here. Were the tires properly inflated? Did
> they wear evenly?

####The tires were properly inflated, and were rotated. They wore very
evenly and had great traction. I couldnt believe it either, but found them
on
Tire Rack and other users who reviewed tdhem seem to have similar results.


>Do you like to smoke the tires when pulling away from the light?
>Wait, I take that last question back. I don't think that's possible with
>an Avalon.

It would be very possible with this one, but - no - I dont smoke the tires.

That's right. The Michelin Primacy at Costco is about $125 w/
installation. And these have a 600 tread rating (approx 60K miles)
with a 60K mile warranty. And if people are saying the cheap
Bridgestones last only 15-20K miles then owners shouldn't pay more
than $35-50 having a Bridgestone installed (otherwise these cheap
tires would cost too much).



On Jun 3, 1:07*pm, "T & K kloth" > wrote:
> This is surprising. *I bought Michelins for my old Camry not too long ago.
> The original Michelins on the car had 85K+ miles on them. *The least
> expensive Michelins I could find had a 45K mile tread life. *I think
> something else is going on here. *Were the tires properly inflated? *Did
> they wear evenly? *Do you like to smoke the tires when pulling away from the
> light? *Wait, I take that last question back. *I don't think that's possible
> with an Avalon.
>
> Tim K
> 1997 Avalon > 2003 Camry > 2008 Avalon

LOL. Avalons smoking tires. That's a good one.

On Jun 4, 2:17*pm, "HLS" > wrote:
> >Do you like to smoke the tires when pulling away from the *light?
> >Wait, I take that last question back. *I don't think that's possible with
> >an Avalon.

wrote:
> LOL. Avalons smoking tires. That's a good one.
>
> On Jun 4, 2:17 pm, "HLS" > wrote:
>>> Do you like to smoke the tires when pulling away from the light?
>>> Wait, I take that last question back. I don't think that's possible with
>>> an Avalon.
If the drive axle tires are sitting on one of those stick-on white
stripes, not at all hard. My minivan, with even less power, does it easily.