Removing RTV from Paint

Bud, you played 'Chicken Little' and lied off the bat on this thread.
That is why Bill called you a Troll, he was right and spotted it.

I was really patient and tried to walk you threw it slowly figuring you
were some 16 year old with his first Jeep or something, only to have you
come back and call me 'condescending.'

Here is your lie quoted:

Thanks everyone for your feedback. So far I've got "nothing", fingers,
erasers, old credit cards, alcohol and gasoline. Something has to work!

End quote.

This means to me anyway, you have tried all the above and nothing
worked. Right? I mean what else 'could' it mean?

This is in response to me saying: 'Maybe an eraser? If it 'is' RTV, it
will rub off with your finger. An old credit card works. You can also
get a liquid gasket remover stuff that is supposed to dissolve it.
Gasoline will dissolve it, but it takes a little while.'

End quote.

Then I came back and said: 'Then you don't have RTV there'..

Bill said the same, Roy figured the same, Snow figured the same, Paul
figured the same.

If you had of just told the truth that you never tried squat, instead
you just were too busy complaining, we wouldn't be having this exchange
right now.

Then when I insist on still politely calling your bull ****, by saying
once again: 'I will say again. You 'cannot' have RTV there!' Then
'you' call 'me' condescending and a know it all.

All this BS because you told us a lie.

I will leave this alone now, hopefully you get the point.

Mike

SoK66 wrote:
>
> Mike, you're out of line and I'm not going to submit to this from you. I
> asked this group a simple and serious Goddamn question in order to to solve
> a very troubling problem I was having that wasn't of my making. I got
> several kind responses, but was then inexplicably called a "troll" by Bill,
> apparently just for having asked the question: Jeezus!!!
>
> After all the responses I received, I did not LIE (where the Hell did you
> get that?), I simply recapped all the suggestions everyone had given me and
> I then tried them one at a time. Subsequently I posted the results. Sorry if
> that offended you.
>
> The fact that you took my reposts the wrong way is your problem, not mine.
> You took it the wrong way, I suspect, because that's what you wanted to do,
> for heaven knows what reason. I can't for the life of me understand why a
> poster on this PUBLIC newsgroup asking honest questions has to put up with
> this, but it's your choice to be a jerk if you want to be.
>
> After every other suggestion the good folks had given me to remove the RTV
> from my Jeep's paint had failed, the last thing I tried before trailering
> the Jeep over to the body shop to have the damn RTV, paint & all stripped
> off & re-shot, was your idea to use gasoline. I saved that one for last
> because I simply didn't want to fill my enclosed garage with gas fumes and
> risk blowing my friggin' house up! I had to remove a a stripe of RTV almost
> four feet long and 1/2 inch wide. In the end it took A LOT of gas-soaked
> rags, a lot of time, a lot of scrubbing, all the while I'm inhaling the damn
> gasoline fumes hoping nothing such as the lights, etc. in the garage causes
> a spark and blows me to kingdom come.
>
> The gas got it off. Yes, Mike, your idea worked, and I thanked you for it as
> the earlier posts will show.
>
> I didn't need to be insulted in the process, and I will not accept your
> condesending attitude without comment. Go ahead and rationalize your
> inappropriate behavior on this forum any way you like, but I didn't, and
> don't appreciate it.
>
> We all participate here because we have a common interests in Jeeps and
> things automotive. If you feel the need to attack people simply beacuse they
> have the audacity to ask questions that you don't happen to like, or think
> are stupid, you may want to examine your own motives before you go off on
> people.
>
> Again, thanks to everyone who responded to my problem. I really appreciated
> the positive feedback I received.
>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> ...
> > SoK66 wrote:
> >>
> >> Nah, it's black Permatex RTV for sure. The problem is that even after I
> >> sliced off the thickest parts of the bead (which was almost 4ft long) the
> >> remaining residue is thick and stuck to the paint like its shadow. I
> >> think
> >> what's confusing everyone is that it isn't like a machined surface with
> >> just
> >> a bit of RTV skin left on. Sure, it will rub off a tiny bit at a time,
> >> but I
> >> have to go 4 ft, and it's about 1/4 - 1/2" wide and still maybe 1/16"
> >> thick
> >> in some spots. So, when you just rub on it do get a little bit of it off,
> >> but it just uncovers more.
> >>
> >> But, OK, here's what I tried today. Got some of the 3M Adhesive remover
> >> someone suggested, which didn't even faze the stuff. Then I tried a
> >> special
> >> rubber wheel (designed to attach to a drill or angle grinder) for
> >> removing
> >> tape stripe reside. All this did was rubbed it off a tiny bit, but for
> >> the
> >> most part it bounced right off the stuff. Finally, I tried some white gas
> >> on
> >> a rag and a plastic pot scrubber and .....VOILA! Took it off, if not
> >> quickly, and just left some tiny scratches in the surface which I can get
> >> after later with a buffing wheel and some polish later.
> >>
> >> I got my rocker guards back from the powder coater today. He recommended
> >> a
> >> clearcoat over them and they came out great. The powder coat should hold
> >> up
> >> a lot better than did "Rattlecan black" Krylon.
> >>
> >> Many thanks to all who responded with suggestions...even you, Bill!
> >>
> >> Jerry McG. (Bill's Troll ;-)
> >>
> >
> > Ahh, so I see my first suggestion worked in the end after all eh?
> >
> > I apologize if I ended up being 'condescending' later in that thread.
> >
> > I meant to be insulting and call you a liar and a troll only looking for
> > attention at the same point in the thread Bill called your BS or better
> > 'Chicken Little'.
> >
> > To quote your lie:
> >
> > Thanks everyone for your feedback. So far I've got "nothing", fingers,
> > erasers, old credit cards, alcohol and gasoline
> >
> > Instead I was polite.
> >
> > I now know you for what you are so I will not be polite any more.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Bud, you played 'Chicken Little' and lied off the bat on this thread.
That is why Bill called you a Troll, he was right and spotted it.

I was really patient and tried to walk you threw it slowly figuring you
were some 16 year old with his first Jeep or something, only to have you
come back and call me 'condescending.'

Here is your lie quoted:

Thanks everyone for your feedback. So far I've got "nothing", fingers,
erasers, old credit cards, alcohol and gasoline. Something has to work!

End quote.

This means to me anyway, you have tried all the above and nothing
worked. Right? I mean what else 'could' it mean?

This is in response to me saying: 'Maybe an eraser? If it 'is' RTV, it
will rub off with your finger. An old credit card works. You can also
get a liquid gasket remover stuff that is supposed to dissolve it.
Gasoline will dissolve it, but it takes a little while.'

End quote.

Then I came back and said: 'Then you don't have RTV there'..

Bill said the same, Roy figured the same, Snow figured the same, Paul
figured the same.

If you had of just told the truth that you never tried squat, instead
you just were too busy complaining, we wouldn't be having this exchange
right now.

Then when I insist on still politely calling your bull ****, by saying
once again: 'I will say again. You 'cannot' have RTV there!' Then
'you' call 'me' condescending and a know it all.

All this BS because you told us a lie.

I will leave this alone now, hopefully you get the point.

Mike

SoK66 wrote:
>
> Mike, you're out of line and I'm not going to submit to this from you. I
> asked this group a simple and serious Goddamn question in order to to solve
> a very troubling problem I was having that wasn't of my making. I got
> several kind responses, but was then inexplicably called a "troll" by Bill,
> apparently just for having asked the question: Jeezus!!!
>
> After all the responses I received, I did not LIE (where the Hell did you
> get that?), I simply recapped all the suggestions everyone had given me and
> I then tried them one at a time. Subsequently I posted the results. Sorry if
> that offended you.
>
> The fact that you took my reposts the wrong way is your problem, not mine.
> You took it the wrong way, I suspect, because that's what you wanted to do,
> for heaven knows what reason. I can't for the life of me understand why a
> poster on this PUBLIC newsgroup asking honest questions has to put up with
> this, but it's your choice to be a jerk if you want to be.
>
> After every other suggestion the good folks had given me to remove the RTV
> from my Jeep's paint had failed, the last thing I tried before trailering
> the Jeep over to the body shop to have the damn RTV, paint & all stripped
> off & re-shot, was your idea to use gasoline. I saved that one for last
> because I simply didn't want to fill my enclosed garage with gas fumes and
> risk blowing my friggin' house up! I had to remove a a stripe of RTV almost
> four feet long and 1/2 inch wide. In the end it took A LOT of gas-soaked
> rags, a lot of time, a lot of scrubbing, all the while I'm inhaling the damn
> gasoline fumes hoping nothing such as the lights, etc. in the garage causes
> a spark and blows me to kingdom come.
>
> The gas got it off. Yes, Mike, your idea worked, and I thanked you for it as
> the earlier posts will show.
>
> I didn't need to be insulted in the process, and I will not accept your
> condesending attitude without comment. Go ahead and rationalize your
> inappropriate behavior on this forum any way you like, but I didn't, and
> don't appreciate it.
>
> We all participate here because we have a common interests in Jeeps and
> things automotive. If you feel the need to attack people simply beacuse they
> have the audacity to ask questions that you don't happen to like, or think
> are stupid, you may want to examine your own motives before you go off on
> people.
>
> Again, thanks to everyone who responded to my problem. I really appreciated
> the positive feedback I received.
>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> ...
> > SoK66 wrote:
> >>
> >> Nah, it's black Permatex RTV for sure. The problem is that even after I
> >> sliced off the thickest parts of the bead (which was almost 4ft long) the
> >> remaining residue is thick and stuck to the paint like its shadow. I
> >> think
> >> what's confusing everyone is that it isn't like a machined surface with
> >> just
> >> a bit of RTV skin left on. Sure, it will rub off a tiny bit at a time,
> >> but I
> >> have to go 4 ft, and it's about 1/4 - 1/2" wide and still maybe 1/16"
> >> thick
> >> in some spots. So, when you just rub on it do get a little bit of it off,
> >> but it just uncovers more.
> >>
> >> But, OK, here's what I tried today. Got some of the 3M Adhesive remover
> >> someone suggested, which didn't even faze the stuff. Then I tried a
> >> special
> >> rubber wheel (designed to attach to a drill or angle grinder) for
> >> removing
> >> tape stripe reside. All this did was rubbed it off a tiny bit, but for
> >> the
> >> most part it bounced right off the stuff. Finally, I tried some white gas
> >> on
> >> a rag and a plastic pot scrubber and .....VOILA! Took it off, if not
> >> quickly, and just left some tiny scratches in the surface which I can get
> >> after later with a buffing wheel and some polish later.
> >>
> >> I got my rocker guards back from the powder coater today. He recommended
> >> a
> >> clearcoat over them and they came out great. The powder coat should hold
> >> up
> >> a lot better than did "Rattlecan black" Krylon.
> >>
> >> Many thanks to all who responded with suggestions...even you, Bill!
> >>
> >> Jerry McG. (Bill's Troll ;-)
> >>
> >
> > Ahh, so I see my first suggestion worked in the end after all eh?
> >
> > I apologize if I ended up being 'condescending' later in that thread.
> >
> > I meant to be insulting and call you a liar and a troll only looking for
> > attention at the same point in the thread Bill called your BS or better
> > 'Chicken Little'.
> >
> > To quote your lie:
> >
> > Thanks everyone for your feedback. So far I've got "nothing", fingers,
> > erasers, old credit cards, alcohol and gasoline
> >
> > Instead I was polite.
> >
> > I now know you for what you are so I will not be polite any more.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

How about

"I have a number of things to try, hopefully one of them will work" ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
Here is your lie quoted:
>
> Thanks everyone for your feedback. So far I've got "nothing", fingers,
> erasers, old credit cards, alcohol and gasoline. Something has to work!
>
> End quote.
>
> This means to me anyway, you have tried all the above and nothing
> worked. Right? I mean what else 'could' it mean?

How about

"I have a number of things to try, hopefully one of them will work" ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
Here is your lie quoted:
>
> Thanks everyone for your feedback. So far I've got "nothing", fingers,
> erasers, old credit cards, alcohol and gasoline. Something has to work!
>
> End quote.
>
> This means to me anyway, you have tried all the above and nothing
> worked. Right? I mean what else 'could' it mean?

More F**Kin' BULL SH*T! Anyone with that amount of modifications on
a YJ knows what "Room-Temperature Vulcanizing" is, and how to work with
it! Like all trolls, you haven't the balls to sign your posts, nor use a
real address, and further spoof your address with "newsdawg", therefo
you are a TROLL and LIAR! And frankly, insulting to our intelligence.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

SoK66 wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, Dave. There was no justification for the crap I took in asking this
> simple question. I had RTV, normally used to seal machined components used
> inappropriately on a finished surface and I just needed some ideas on how to
> get it off without damaging the paint. Most, including you, kindly offered
> useful suggestions. Unfortunately, two decided to be jerks, for God knows
> what reason.
> I've got about $50k involved in this YJ, and another $25k in a CJ
> retoration, I have better things to do with my time than troll usenet Jeep
> groups.

More F**Kin' BULL SH*T! Anyone with that amount of modifications on
a YJ knows what "Room-Temperature Vulcanizing" is, and how to work with
it! Like all trolls, you haven't the balls to sign your posts, nor use a
real address, and further spoof your address with "newsdawg", therefo
you are a TROLL and LIAR! And frankly, insulting to our intelligence.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

SoK66 wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, Dave. There was no justification for the crap I took in asking this
> simple question. I had RTV, normally used to seal machined components used
> inappropriately on a finished surface and I just needed some ideas on how to
> get it off without damaging the paint. Most, including you, kindly offered
> useful suggestions. Unfortunately, two decided to be jerks, for God knows
> what reason.
> I've got about $50k involved in this YJ, and another $25k in a CJ
> retoration, I have better things to do with my time than troll usenet Jeep
> groups.

Geez Dave, your treating this troll like it's just some poor lonely
person willing to lie for attention. Can't you tell the difference?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> How about
>
> "I have a number of things to try, hopefully one of them will work" ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Geez Dave, your treating this troll like it's just some poor lonely
person willing to lie for attention. Can't you tell the difference?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> How about
>
> "I have a number of things to try, hopefully one of them will work" ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Clearly not :-)

Hell, I just like to give people the benefit of the doubt, unless they are
blatently rude.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> Geez Dave, your treating this troll like it's just some poor lonely
> person willing to lie for attention. Can't you tell the difference?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > How about
> >
> > "I have a number of things to try, hopefully one of them will work" ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Clearly not :-)

Hell, I just like to give people the benefit of the doubt, unless they are
blatently rude.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> Geez Dave, your treating this troll like it's just some poor lonely
> person willing to lie for attention. Can't you tell the difference?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > How about
> >
> > "I have a number of things to try, hopefully one of them will work" ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ