oil filter cross reference question

Have some spare oil filters that I thought were left over from an old
car which I no longer have - trying to figure out if I can use them on
my newer cars. The two cars I have now:

-96 626, 4cyl, recommended fram filter ph6607
-02 Altima, 4cyl, recommeded fram filter ph7317

The cross referencing tool at Fram's web site says that my old filters
(STP S-02867) can be cross referenced to all of these fram numbers:
PH3593A, PH3950, PH5343, PH6607, PH7317. This sounds like good news to
me - but ph6607 & ph7317 (the two models recommended for my cars) look
physically different in size. How can the STP filter cross reference
both fram models if they're different sizes? Should I not be concerned
about this?

The important dimensions are the trhead of the center hole, and the ID/OD of the
gasket. Case size is secondary.

On 20 Dec 2004 09:04:18 -0800, wrote:

||Have some spare oil filters that I thought were left over from an old
||car which I no longer have - trying to figure out if I can use them on
||my newer cars. The two cars I have now:
||
||-96 626, 4cyl, recommended fram filter ph6607
||-02 Altima, 4cyl, recommeded fram filter ph7317
||
||The cross referencing tool at Fram's web site says that my old filters
||(STP S-02867) can be cross referenced to all of these fram numbers:
||PH3593A, PH3950, PH5343, PH6607, PH7317. This sounds like good news to
||me - but ph6607 & ph7317 (the two models recommended for my cars) look
||physically different in size. How can the STP filter cross reference
||both fram models if they're different sizes? Should I not be concerned
||about this?
||

Texas Parts Guy

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, wrote:

> The important dimensions are the trhead of the center hole, and the
> ID/OD of the gasket. Case size is secondary.

-Presence/absence/rating of antidrainback valve
-Presence/absence/rating of overpressure relief valve
-Flow capacity of filter media
-Internal dimensions of filter cartridge relative to oil uptake pipe

There is a LOT more to interchangeability of an oil filter than "will it
mount".

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:36:00 -0500, "Daniel J. Stern" > wrote:

||On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, wrote:
||
||> The important dimensions are the trhead of the center hole, and the
||> ID/OD of the gasket. Case size is secondary.
||
||-Presence/absence/rating of antidrainback valve
||-Presence/absence/rating of overpressure relief valve
||-Flow capacity of filter media
||-Internal dimensions of filter cartridge relative to oil uptake pipe
||
||There is a LOT more to interchangeability of an oil filter than "will it
||mount".

I realize that. All modern filters for the cars he mentioned would have
anti-drainback and overpressure valves, as well as adequate flow capacity
assuming regular oil changes.
For someone trying to use an STP filter - and using Fram as a reference - I
figured the finer points would be lost.
Texas Parts Guy

In article >, wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:36:00 -0500, "Daniel J. Stern" >
wrote:
>
>||On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, wrote:
>||
>||> The important dimensions are the trhead of the center hole, and the
>||> ID/OD of the gasket. Case size is secondary.
>||
>||-Presence/absence/rating of antidrainback valve
>||-Presence/absence/rating of overpressure relief valve
>||-Flow capacity of filter media
>||-Internal dimensions of filter cartridge relative to oil uptake pipe
>||
>||There is a LOT more to interchangeability of an oil filter than "will it
>||mount".
>
>I realize that. All modern filters for the cars he mentioned would have
>anti-drainback and overpressure valves, as well as adequate flow capacity
>assuming regular oil changes.
> For someone trying to use an STP filter - and using Fram as a reference - I
>figured the finer points would be lost.
>Texas Parts Guy

FRAM seems to be pretty "liberal" on their cross reference #'s.
You might also want to check some other filter sites, such as wix.com etc.

"Daniel J. Stern" wrote:
>
> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, wrote:
>
> > The important dimensions are the trhead of the center hole, and the
> > ID/OD of the gasket. Case size is secondary.
>
> -Presence/absence/rating of antidrainback valve
> -Presence/absence/rating of overpressure relief valve
> -Flow capacity of filter media
> -Internal dimensions of filter cartridge relative to oil uptake pipe
>
> There is a LOT more to interchangeability of an oil filter than "will it
> mount".

I think I'd just toss an old filter rather than use it on a
new vehicle. The paper elements dry out and start to rot,
the rubber gasket hardens, the anti-drainback seal hardens
and maybe doesn't seat so well, etc. Why take a change to
save a few dollars. However, if anybody really likes using
old oil filters, I have a couple of 5 or 6 year old
cartridge filters for a 1966 MF-175 Tractor I will let you
have for the cost of shipping. No gauranteess of quality!

Ed

FYI for everyone - it's wixfilters.com now, not wix.com. I went to
their site, and for my year, make, model, engine, etc. (96 mazda) they
said wix part #51357 which does NOT correspond to PH6607. I guess I'll
use the frams this time around, chuck the old ones, and maybe use wix
filters from here on out.

Have others used Wix filters on this board - satisfied with them??

> FRAM seems to be pretty "liberal" on their cross reference #'s.
> You might also want to check some other filter sites, such as wix.com
etc.


Bill wrote:
> In article >, wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:36:00 -0500, "Daniel J. Stern"
>
> wrote:
> >
> >||On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, wrote:
> >||
> >||> The important dimensions are the trhead of the center hole, and
the
> >||> ID/OD of the gasket. Case size is secondary.
> >||
> >||-Presence/absence/rating of antidrainback valve
> >||-Presence/absence/rating of overpressure relief valve
> >||-Flow capacity of filter media
> >||-Internal dimensions of filter cartridge relative to oil uptake
pipe
> >||
> >||There is a LOT more to interchangeability of an oil filter than
"will it
> >||mount".
> >
> >I realize that. All modern filters for the cars he mentioned would
have
> >anti-drainback and overpressure valves, as well as adequate flow
capacity
> >assuming regular oil changes.
> > For someone trying to use an STP filter - and using Fram as a
reference - I
> >figured the finer points would be lost.
> >Texas Parts Guy
>

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 wrote:

> Have others used Wix filters on this board - satisfied with them??

Wix generally makes much, much better filters than Fram.

wrote:
> FYI for everyone - it's wixfilters.com now, not wix.com. I went to
> their site, and for my year, make, model, engine, etc. (96 mazda) they
> said wix part #51357 which does NOT correspond to PH6607. I guess I'll
> use the frams this time around, chuck the old ones, and maybe use wix
> filters from here on out.
>
> Have others used Wix filters on this board - satisfied with them??
>

For my 01 TA, I run either ACDelco or Wix or Purolator filters.
I really wish someone (even Consumer Retards) would do an oil filter
test that was more than a "cut it open, measure the filter" test.*

On my Fiero (96-99), I don't think the Canadian Tire (fram) filters'
anti-drainback valves worked - clatter at startup. Since then I avoid
Canadian Tire (fram) filters. The various horror stories I've heard
about Fram don't help either.

*by real test, I mean connecting a filter up to equipment and pumping
oil through it - measure flow rates, how much contaminants it can hold,
etc etc... instead of "the fram filter looks cheap and the wix filter
has the prettiest filter media..."

Ray

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:37:12 -0800, (Bill) wrote:

||In article >, wrote:
||
||>On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:36:00 -0500, "Daniel J. Stern" >
||wrote:
||>
||>||On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, wrote:
||>||
||>||> The important dimensions are the trhead of the center hole, and the
||>||> ID/OD of the gasket. Case size is secondary.
||>||
||>||-Presence/absence/rating of antidrainback valve
||>||-Presence/absence/rating of overpressure relief valve
||>||-Flow capacity of filter media
||>||-Internal dimensions of filter cartridge relative to oil uptake pipe
||>||
||>||There is a LOT more to interchangeability of an oil filter than "will it
||>||mount".
||>
||>I realize that. All modern filters for the cars he mentioned would have
||>anti-drainback and overpressure valves, as well as adequate flow capacity
||>assuming regular oil changes.
||> For someone trying to use an STP filter - and using Fram as a reference -
I
||>figured the finer points would be lost.
||>Texas Parts Guy
||
||FRAM seems to be pretty "liberal" on their cross reference #'s.
||You might also want to check some other filter sites, such as wix.com etc.

Fram is pretty liberal on what they call a good oil filter.
Texas Parts Guy