Hey Ya'll!

thanks Jenn!

--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty


"jbjeep" > wrote in message
...
: Welcome the the madhouse Kate! =)
: -jenn
:
:
: On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:58:26 GMT, "Kate" > wrote:
:
: >>Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: >>I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
: >>
: >>After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
top
: >>for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: >>I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: >>The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
but
: >>I will get used to it.
: >>
: >>In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
: >>comfort, style and versitility.
: >>I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
doing
: >>some exploring.
: >>
: >>I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
: >>Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: >>exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: >>
: >>Oh!
: >>I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
Irish
: >>woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
republican.
: >>I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
: >>worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: >>
: >>Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!

I have the tow hooks (front and rear) next on my wish list.
Looks like i am thinking in the right direction Phew!

--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty


"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
: Welcome aboard.
:
: I don't know what folks are doing for raising clearance, but skid plates
: are the best first investment as you likely remember from the CJ days.
: At least the CJ's 'came' with oil pan skid plates and nice tranny/t-case
: and gas tank skids.
:
: Tow hooks are a good second thing.
:
: Mike
: 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
: 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
:
: Kate wrote:
: >
: > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
: >
: > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
top
: > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
but
: > I will get used to it.
: >
: > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
: > comfort, style and versitility.
: > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
doing
: > some exploring.
: >
: > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
: > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: >
: > Oh!
: > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
Irish
: > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
republican.
: > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
: > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: >
: > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty

Sorry... for... what?
did you break wind? ;¬D
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty


"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
: Sorry.
: God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
: http://www.billhughes.com/
:
: Kate wrote:
: >
: > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
: >
: > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
top
: > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
but
: > I will get used to it.
: >
: > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
: > comfort, style and versitility.
: > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
doing
: > some exploring.
: >
: > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
: > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: >
: > Oh!
: > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
Irish
: > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
republican.
: > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
: > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: >
: > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty

Thanks Billy Ray.
I rather suspected this would be the case.
I know it isn't what many consider a serious off roader but I plan to have
some fun with it.

I don't think I am going to do any extreme rock climbing with it, or putting
a huge lift, or cutting the fenders off or anything like that.
It only has 100 miles on it and still needs to be broken in.

I considered other options, but this is the best for my lifestyle. I'm no
soccer mom, but I do need to haul my grandson now and then, so I sacrificed
my Cobra for this.
It had better be fun or else.

I'm used to getting ribbed and usually can handle it. When I get so I can't
I say so.

--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty


"Billy Ray" > wrote in message
...
: Kate,
:
: You will probably get some flak about your KJ not being a 'real' Jeep.
But
: then neither was my XJ or my current WJ.
:
: After some initial razzing you will get a lot of information here. Most
: will be good and as another Jeeper said the bad information will get a lot
: of comments and corrections.
:
: Don't be afraid or reluctant to ask 'stupid' questions as there are plenty
: of people wondering the same thing.
:
: No one here was born an expert, they all learned from someone else and by
: trial and error.
:
: --
: .
: (remove SPAM)
: 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
: Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
: Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
: .
: "Kate" > wrote in message
: link.net...
: > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
: >
: > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
top
: > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
: > but
: > I will get used to it.
: >
: > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
: > comfort, style and versitility.
: > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
doing
: > some exploring.
: >
: > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
: > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: >
: > Oh!
: > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
Irish
: > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: > republican.
: > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
: > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: >
: > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
: >
:
:

Ok, here is what I have.
The important parts:
3.7 V6, auto tranny (I did that on purpose, tired of shifting) Command-Trac
Part time 4wd, 3.73 rear end, 17x7.5 wheels with Goodyear P235/65R17 tires.
I got it with the Limited package 28G and a gob of other goodies that really
have no effect on the vehicle as far as being a 4 wheeler.

I have the skid plated on order, they should be on by Wednesday. next I am
getting tow hooks put on it.
From there... I am not too sure.
I have to get used to it. Hell I haven't even activated the Sirius radio yet
or tried the disk changer.

What I AM interested in is how to goose up this six banger for some more
horsepower without voiding my warranty.

--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty


"Billy Ray" > wrote in message
...
: Tell us more about your Liberty's current setup.
:
: Have you a build sheet? If not you can get one via e-mail from Jeep or at
: any Jeep parts counter at no charge. All you will need is the VIN number.
:
: In the back you can use a trailer hitch for the tow hook.
:
: --
: .
: (remove SPAM)
: 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
: Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
: Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
: .
: "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
: ...
: > Welcome aboard.
: >
: > I don't know what folks are doing for raising clearance, but skid plates
: > are the best first investment as you likely remember from the CJ days.
: > At least the CJ's 'came' with oil pan skid plates and nice tranny/t-case
: > and gas tank skids.
: >
: > Tow hooks are a good second thing.
: >
: > Mike
: > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
: > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
: >
: > Kate wrote:
: >>
: >> Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: >> I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
: >>
: >> After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
top
: >> for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: >> I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: >> The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
: >> but
: >> I will get used to it.
: >>
: >> In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
for
: >> comfort, style and versitility.
: >> I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
doing
: >> some exploring.
: >>
: >> I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
: >> Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: >> exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: >>
: >> Oh!
: >> I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
Irish
: >> woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: >> republican.
: >> I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
: >> worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: >>
: >> Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: >>
: >> --
: >> Kate
: >> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
:
:

You're a good guy, nice to have you with us, hope they don't laugh
you off the trail:
http://www.billhughes.com/temp/LibertyAndTraction.mpeg
http://www.lostkjs.com/forum/phpBB2/
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O


Kate wrote:
>
> Sorry... for... what?
> did you break wind? ;¬D
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty

"Carl Saiyed" > wrote in message
...
: 2" Spacer lift,

Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's ok!

new shocks,
but, but, but these ARE new.
Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?

sway bar discos
HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!

and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?

: you'll do OK.
Thanks!
:¬D


--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty

:
: Carl
:
: "Kate" > wrote in message
: link.net...
: > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
: >
: > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
top
: > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
: but
: > I will get used to it.
: >
: > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
: > comfort, style and versitility.
: > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
doing
: > some exploring.
: >
: > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
: > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: >
: > Oh!
: > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
Irish
: > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: republican.
: > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
: > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: >
: > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
: >
:
:

Thanks Jaco, I have been lurking a little,
Looks like there is pleanty to go around.

--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty


"jaco" > wrote in message
...
: Welcome to the group Kate - there really is alot of excellent resources
here
: and they will correct the ones that are not so excellent ;-)
:
: "Kate" > wrote in message
: link.net...
: >>
: > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
: >
:
:

Hey now! I've done my share of pointing and giggling.

--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty


"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
: You're a good guy, nice to have you with us, hope they don't laugh
: you off the trail:
: http://www.billhughes.com/temp/LibertyAndTraction.mpeg
: http://www.lostkjs.com/forum/phpBB2/
: God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:
:
: Kate wrote:
: >
: > Sorry... for... what?
: > did you break wind? ;¬D
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty

Kate,

Which Goodyear tires did you get? I am guessing Wrangler HPs which are a
...... fair ... street tire but you won't be getting too far off-road with
those.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS

The MT/Rs that Carl mentioned are off-road mud tires and it sounds like you
would have little need for them.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT

If possible you might see if you can get the dealer to swap you a set of All
Terrain tires. They all have a deal with a local tire company although the
swapping is easier done before the sales papers are signed. At the very
least the ATs will give you better winter performance.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT

Everyone has their own favorite tire manufacturer, BFG is popular here but
not universal (I have Kumho Venture AT-825s on my Grand Cherokee, see chart
above)

Depending on how high you lift your Liberty you might need new (longer)
shocks or shock extensions.

The 'discos' are sway bar disconnects. You need to disconnect the sway bar
for full articulation off-road but you don't sound to be planning that
either.

A towing point front and rear is important off-road so if you get stuck
someone can pull you out without endangering your axles or body. (The KJ's
not yours) A trailer receiver counts as a rear tow point and allows the
addition of additional carriers, etc. that may be of interest now or in the
future. If money is a consideration you only 'need' one tow hook in the
front.

Take a look at Bill's video. The KJ got stuck because of design limitations
and driver inexperience. The passenger rear tire spun because it had little
traction and the standard differential will allow the tire with less
traction to spin freely and the tire with traction to remain still. You can
'remedy' the open differential by applying the brakes while giving it gas.
The resistance from the brake will often trick the differential into
thinking both tires have equal traction. If you were just ordering the KJ
now you could add the posi-traction option that does this automatically. It
is not as good as a true 'locker' but is much better than nothing. The
driver should also have been further to the left, ALWAYS select your line
when given the chance.

While you are at it get a set of substantial rubber floor mats to replace
the carpeted ones that came from the factory. Your KJ isn't like your old
CJ where you could just go to the carwash with the top off to clean the
interior.

I am not sure how many people in this newsgroup have experience with the 3.7
liter V-6 engine as it is fairly new but I am sure some of them know where
to look and call for good information


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"Kate" > wrote in message
link.net...
>
>
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" > wrote in message
> ...
> : 2" Spacer lift,
>
> Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's ok!
>
> new shocks,
> but, but, but these ARE new.
> Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
>
> sway bar discos
> HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
>
> and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
>
> : you'll do OK.
> Thanks!
> :¬D
>
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
> :
> : Carl
> :
> : "Kate" > wrote in message
> : link.net...
> : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
> though.
> : >
> : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
> top
> : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
> bit
> : but
> : > I will get used to it.
> : >
> : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
> for
> : > comfort, style and versitility.
> : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
> doing
> : > some exploring.
> : >
> : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
> : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> : >
> : > Oh!
> : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
> Irish
> : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
> : republican.
> : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
> and
> : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> : >
> : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> : >
> : > --
> : > Kate
> : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : >
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>