RIM SIZE FOR 2006 WRANGLER (con't)

This is just an update from the previous post that I had going a
couple of weeks ago. I got my new BFG Muds installed on 8/31/07 and
they look AWESOME! The spare tire did fit under the third brake
light, but there is only about 1/8 inch of room to spare. You will
definitely not get a bigger tire under there unless you do some
modifications. I also had to shave off the rounded part of the rubber
tire stop that is mounted under the tail gate because the gate would
not shut properly due to the bigger tire hitting it prior to the gate
closing properly. Five minutes with a Ginsu knife and all is good
now! LOL

I was concerned about the additional size and weight of the new tire
compared to my stock tire, but I spoke to the service dept. from the
dealership I purchased the Wrangler at and this is what they told me:

My stock tires were the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (215/75/15) and weigh
25 pounds each. The Rubicon's tires are just a hair smaller than my
BFG Muds (30.5/9.5/16), and they are mounted on the tail gate without
any known problems. I was informed that the tail gates on the newer
TJ's have been reinforced to hold the weight of the larger Rubicon
tires. I have discovered that the STOCK Rubicon tires are the
Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs and they are 30.5/9.5/16 and weigh 49 pounds
each. My BFG Muds are 31/10.5/15 and weigh 43 pounds each. So in all
reality, the stock Rubicon's tires weigh 6 pounds MORE than my BFG
Muds. In the future, I will probably get a rear bumper/oversize tire
carrier combo to carry the 31 inch tire. I doubt I will have any
problems with the tire mounted like it is because I don't do any off-
roading to speak of that would bounce the hell out of the spare tire.
I just don't feel comfortable leaving the tire mounted there
indefinitely.

Glad to hear.
Could you send a link with some pictures?

Bill Spiliotopoulos,
'96 XJ,
'06 TJ.

"Tracie" > wrote in message
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> This is just an update from the previous post that I had going a
> couple of weeks ago. I got my new BFG Muds installed on 8/31/07 and
> they look AWESOME! The spare tire did fit under the third brake
> light, but there is only about 1/8 inch of room to spare. You will
> definitely not get a bigger tire under there unless you do some
> modifications. I also had to shave off the rounded part of the rubber
> tire stop that is mounted under the tail gate because the gate would
> not shut properly due to the bigger tire hitting it prior to the gate
> closing properly. Five minutes with a Ginsu knife and all is good
> now! LOL
>
> I was concerned about the additional size and weight of the new tire
> compared to my stock tire, but I spoke to the service dept. from the
> dealership I purchased the Wrangler at and this is what they told me:
>
> My stock tires were the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (215/75/15) and weigh
> 25 pounds each. The Rubicon's tires are just a hair smaller than my
> BFG Muds (30.5/9.5/16), and they are mounted on the tail gate without
> any known problems. I was informed that the tail gates on the newer
> TJ's have been reinforced to hold the weight of the larger Rubicon
> tires. I have discovered that the STOCK Rubicon tires are the
> Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs and they are 30.5/9.5/16 and weigh 49 pounds
> each. My BFG Muds are 31/10.5/15 and weigh 43 pounds each. So in all
> reality, the stock Rubicon's tires weigh 6 pounds MORE than my BFG
> Muds. In the future, I will probably get a rear bumper/oversize tire
> carrier combo to carry the 31 inch tire. I doubt I will have any
> problems with the tire mounted like it is because I don't do any off-
> roading to speak of that would bounce the hell out of the spare tire.
> I just don't feel comfortable leaving the tire mounted there
> indefinitely.
>

The only rhing you'll have to watch for, is when
you're parked at a angle, whereas the passenger side is
lower than the drivers side. Make sure you don't let the tailgate
swing freely open. The swing stops on the hinges are not quite
strong enough to stop the gate with the heavier tire.
I did it once with my Stock Rubicon and it swing past
the stops and rammed into the tail light. Luckily they
replaced the damaged hinges and tail light under warrenty.
But they didn't want to.

Tracie wrote:
> This is just an update from the previous post that I had going a
> couple of weeks ago. I got my new BFG Muds installed on 8/31/07 and
> they look AWESOME! The spare tire did fit under the third brake
> light, but there is only about 1/8 inch of room to spare. You will
> definitely not get a bigger tire under there unless you do some
> modifications. I also had to shave off the rounded part of the rubber
> tire stop that is mounted under the tail gate because the gate would
> not shut properly due to the bigger tire hitting it prior to the gate
> closing properly. Five minutes with a Ginsu knife and all is good
> now! LOL
>
> I was concerned about the additional size and weight of the new tire
> compared to my stock tire, but I spoke to the service dept. from the
> dealership I purchased the Wrangler at and this is what they told me:
>
> My stock tires were the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (215/75/15) and weigh
> 25 pounds each. The Rubicon's tires are just a hair smaller than my
> BFG Muds (30.5/9.5/16), and they are mounted on the tail gate without
> any known problems. I was informed that the tail gates on the newer
> TJ's have been reinforced to hold the weight of the larger Rubicon
> tires. I have discovered that the STOCK Rubicon tires are the
> Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs and they are 30.5/9.5/16 and weigh 49 pounds
> each. My BFG Muds are 31/10.5/15 and weigh 43 pounds each. So in all
> reality, the stock Rubicon's tires weigh 6 pounds MORE than my BFG
> Muds. In the future, I will probably get a rear bumper/oversize tire
> carrier combo to carry the 31 inch tire. I doubt I will have any
> problems with the tire mounted like it is because I don't do any off-
> roading to speak of that would bounce the hell out of the spare tire.
> I just don't feel comfortable leaving the tire mounted there
> indefinitely.
>

On Sep 5, 12:32 pm, FrankW > wrote:
> The only rhing you'll have to watch for, is when
> you're parked at a angle, whereas the passenger side is
> lower than the drivers side. Make sure you don't let the tailgate
> swing freely open. The swing stops on the hinges are not quite
> strong enough to stop the gate with the heavier tire.
> I did it once with my Stock Rubicon and it swing past
> the stops and rammed into the tail light. Luckily they
> replaced the damaged hinges and tail light under warrenty.
> But they didn't want to.
>
>
>
> Tracie wrote:
> > This is just an update from the previous post that I had going a
> > couple of weeks ago. I got my new BFG Muds installed on 8/31/07 and
> > they look AWESOME! The spare tire did fit under the third brake
> > light, but there is only about 1/8 inch of room to spare. You will
> > definitely not get a bigger tire under there unless you do some
> > modifications. I also had to shave off the rounded part of the rubber
> > tire stop that is mounted under the tail gate because the gate would
> > not shut properly due to the bigger tire hitting it prior to the gate
> > closing properly. Five minutes with a Ginsu knife and all is good
> > now! LOL
>
> > I was concerned about the additional size and weight of the new tire
> > compared to my stock tire, but I spoke to the service dept. from the
> > dealership I purchased the Wrangler at and this is what they told me:
>
> > My stock tires were the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (215/75/15) and weigh
> > 25 pounds each. The Rubicon's tires are just a hair smaller than my
> > BFG Muds (30.5/9.5/16), and they are mounted on the tail gate without
> > any known problems. I was informed that the tail gates on the newer
> > TJ's have been reinforced to hold the weight of the larger Rubicon
> > tires. I have discovered that the STOCK Rubicon tires are the
> > Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs and they are 30.5/9.5/16 and weigh 49 pounds
> > each. My BFG Muds are 31/10.5/15 and weigh 43 pounds each. So in all
> > reality, the stock Rubicon's tires weigh 6 pounds MORE than my BFG
> > Muds. In the future, I will probably get a rear bumper/oversize tire
> > carrier combo to carry the 31 inch tire. I doubt I will have any
> > problems with the tire mounted like it is because I don't do any off-
> > roading to speak of that would bounce the hell out of the spare tire.
> > I just don't feel comfortable leaving the tire mounted there
> > indefinitely.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Bill --

I will try to get some pics later this evening. I am not very good at
setting up links to my pics, so if I can't I may need your e-mail addy
to send them to you. I will attempt it though.

Frank --

Thanks for that insight. I didn't think about that. I haven't had
that situation happen yet, but I will remember that should I ever be
parked at that angle.

Stock wheels are very small, and they also don't look like a nice fit to the
TJ. After fitting the larger wheels the look is greatly improved and you may
not want the lift anymore, unless you experience rubbing problems. Since you
don't have intention to do much off-roading, you may not need it at all.

The email on my post headers is valid. It would be better though to setup a
link for everybody to be able to take a look.

Bill Spiliotopoulos,
'96 XJ,
'06 TJ.

"Tracie" > wrote in message
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> On Sep 5, 12:32 pm, FrankW > wrote:
>> The only rhing you'll have to watch for, is when
>> you're parked at a angle, whereas the passenger side is
>> lower than the drivers side. Make sure you don't let the tailgate
>> swing freely open. The swing stops on the hinges are not quite
>> strong enough to stop the gate with the heavier tire.
>> I did it once with my Stock Rubicon and it swing past
>> the stops and rammed into the tail light. Luckily they
>> replaced the damaged hinges and tail light under warrenty.
>> But they didn't want to.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tracie wrote:
>> > This is just an update from the previous post that I had going a
>> > couple of weeks ago. I got my new BFG Muds installed on 8/31/07 and
>> > they look AWESOME! The spare tire did fit under the third brake
>> > light, but there is only about 1/8 inch of room to spare. You will
>> > definitely not get a bigger tire under there unless you do some
>> > modifications. I also had to shave off the rounded part of the rubber
>> > tire stop that is mounted under the tail gate because the gate would
>> > not shut properly due to the bigger tire hitting it prior to the gate
>> > closing properly. Five minutes with a Ginsu knife and all is good
>> > now! LOL
>>
>> > I was concerned about the additional size and weight of the new tire
>> > compared to my stock tire, but I spoke to the service dept. from the
>> > dealership I purchased the Wrangler at and this is what they told me:
>>
>> > My stock tires were the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (215/75/15) and weigh
>> > 25 pounds each. The Rubicon's tires are just a hair smaller than my
>> > BFG Muds (30.5/9.5/16), and they are mounted on the tail gate without
>> > any known problems. I was informed that the tail gates on the newer
>> > TJ's have been reinforced to hold the weight of the larger Rubicon
>> > tires. I have discovered that the STOCK Rubicon tires are the
>> > Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs and they are 30.5/9.5/16 and weigh 49 pounds
>> > each. My BFG Muds are 31/10.5/15 and weigh 43 pounds each. So in all
>> > reality, the stock Rubicon's tires weigh 6 pounds MORE than my BFG
>> > Muds. In the future, I will probably get a rear bumper/oversize tire
>> > carrier combo to carry the 31 inch tire. I doubt I will have any
>> > problems with the tire mounted like it is because I don't do any off-
>> > roading to speak of that would bounce the hell out of the spare tire.
>> > I just don't feel comfortable leaving the tire mounted there
>> > indefinitely.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Bill --
>
> I will try to get some pics later this evening. I am not very good at
> setting up links to my pics, so if I can't I may need your e-mail addy
> to send them to you. I will attempt it though.
>
> Frank --
>
> Thanks for that insight. I didn't think about that. I haven't had
> that situation happen yet, but I will remember that should I ever be
> parked at that angle.
>

On Sep 5, 3:38 pm, c > wrote:
> There are several free sites that you can upload pictures to.www.flickr.comis one I use, and there are many others. Flickr is very
> easy to use.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> > Bill --
>
> > I will try to get some pics later this evening. I am not very good at
> > setting up links to my pics, so if I can't I may need your e-mail addy
> > to send them to you. I will attempt it though.
>
> > Frank --
>
> > Thanks for that insight. I didn't think about that. I haven't had
> > that situation happen yet, but I will remember that should I ever be
> > parked at that angle.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

OK.....I think I got it right. I have uploaded some pics of my jeep
on the flickr.com website. Here is the address to view them:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/firebutie/

On Sep 5, 9:02 pm, c > wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
> > On Sep 5, 3:38 pm, c > wrote:
> >> There are several free sites that you can upload pictures to.www.flickr.comisone I use, and there are many others. Flickr is very
> >> easy to use.
>
> >> Chris
>
> >>> Bill --
> >>> I will try to get some pics later this evening. I am not very good at
> >>> setting up links to my pics, so if I can't I may need your e-mail addy
> >>> to send them to you. I will attempt it though.
> >>> Frank --
> >>> Thanks for that insight. I didn't think about that. I haven't had
> >>> that situation happen yet, but I will remember that should I ever be
> >>> parked at that angle.- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > OK.....I think I got it right. I have uploaded some pics of my jeep
> > on the flickr.com website. Here is the address to view them:
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/firebutie/
>
> Looks good!
>
> Chris- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks! I am considering taking off the black hoop in the front and
buying the chrome plated grille inserts....just can't decide if that
would be too much bling or not. Any opinion on that?

"Tracie" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> On Sep 5, 9:02 pm, c > wrote:

>
> Thanks! I am considering taking off the black hoop in the front and
> buying the chrome plated grille inserts....just can't decide if that
> would be too much bling or not. Any opinion on that?
>

Bling = bad. If you are planning on going in the dirt, you won't notice the
bling anyway.

Tires look good, after looking at it I must say I think a 1" spacer lift
would probably keep the wheelwells from looking overstuffed, although you
should be alright to drive now.

Love the color, too, I wonder why...

http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/matt_photos/tj.gif

On Sep 5, 9:46 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote:
> "Tracie" > wrote in message
>
> ps.com...
>
> > On Sep 5, 9:02 pm, c > wrote:
>
> > Thanks! I am considering taking off the black hoop in the front and
> > buying the chrome plated grille inserts....just can't decide if that
> > would be too much bling or not. Any opinion on that?
>
> Bling = bad. If you are planning on going in the dirt, you won't notice the
> bling anyway.
>
> Tires look good, after looking at it I must say I think a 1" spacer lift
> would probably keep the wheelwells from looking overstuffed, although you
> should be alright to drive now.
>
> Love the color, too, I wonder why...
>
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/matt_photos/tj.gif

Thanks for the responses. I really think the chrome grille inserts
would look too "blingy" (I just needed to hear that from someone
else). Bling is definitely the look that I DON'T want! LOL And I
honestly don't like the titanium look either. I thought about getting
the front and rear double tube bumpers (not in stainless though....in
powder coated black).

The puddle under the passenger side lower control arm is what I think
is condensation from running the vents in the defrost/floor mode on
cool air. I have stuck my finger in the puddle in the past and it
comes up clear. This happens every time I run the vents this way. Uh-
oh....is that not supposed to happen? It doesn't do this on the
driver's side, but from my understanding, the cooling system is on the
passenger side. I have opened the hood and have noticed some minor
condensation on the metal tubes near the firewall (?) on the passenger
side. Normal or not?

I am considering a spacer lift for now....but thought about getting a
2" inch spacer lift with longer shocks and front/rear extended bump
stops. Although a 1" spacer lift wouldn't look bad either. As it is
right now, I have to stand on my toes just to get my butt up on the
seat when getting in (I am 5 feet 7 inches tall). And that's without
a lift at all! I can drive it OK for right now. Knock on wood, I
have not had any rubbing yet either. I did buy a handy dandy SS pack
of washers just in case though. LOL

On Sep 5, 11:46 pm, c > wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
> > On Sep 5, 9:46 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote:
> >> "Tracie" > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...
>
> >>> On Sep 5, 9:02 pm, c > wrote:
> >>> Thanks! I am considering taking off the black hoop in the front and
> >>> buying the chrome plated grille inserts....just can't decide if that
> >>> would be too much bling or not. Any opinion on that?
> >> Bling = bad. If you are planning on going in the dirt, you won't notice the
> >> bling anyway.
>
> >> Tires look good, after looking at it I must say I think a 1" spacer lift
> >> would probably keep the wheelwells from looking overstuffed, although you
> >> should be alright to drive now.
>
> >> Love the color, too, I wonder why...
>
> >>http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/matt_photos/tj.gif
>
> > Thanks for the responses. I really think the chrome grille inserts
> > would look too "blingy" (I just needed to hear that from someone
> > else). Bling is definitely the look that I DON'T want! LOL And I
> > honestly don't like the titanium look either. I thought about getting
> > the front and rear double tube bumpers (not in stainless though....in
> > powder coated black).
>
> > The puddle under the passenger side lower control arm is what I think
> > is condensation from running the vents in the defrost/floor mode on
> > cool air. I have stuck my finger in the puddle in the past and it
> > comes up clear. This happens every time I run the vents this way. Uh-
> > oh....is that not supposed to happen? It doesn't do this on the
> > driver's side, but from my understanding, the cooling system is on the
> > passenger side. I have opened the hood and have noticed some minor
> > condensation on the metal tubes near the firewall (?) on the passenger
> > side. Normal or not?
>
> > I am considering a spacer lift for now....but thought about getting a
> > 2" inch spacer lift with longer shocks and front/rear extended bump
> > stops. Although a 1" spacer lift wouldn't look bad either. As it is
> > right now, I have to stand on my toes just to get my butt up on the
> > seat when getting in (I am 5 feet 7 inches tall). And that's without
> > a lift at all! I can drive it OK for right now. Knock on wood, I
> > have not had any rubbing yet either. I did buy a handy dandy SS pack
> > of washers just in case though. LOL
>
> I think you're making a good choice not to bling it up. The monochrome
> type look is what I like best, maybe with the exception of nice wheels.
> You really cant go wrong with black bumpers on a Jeep though. I think a
> 1 or 2" lift would add more to the look than anything. The wheel wells
> look a little crowded like Matt said. You don't want too much lift for
> the tires either. That looks equally bad. You're well on your way to a
> very nice rig. I'm jealous. :P
>
> Chris- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks. I will keep more pictures coming in as I do the modifications
in the very near future. I agree the wheel wells do look a little
stuffed, but I just wanted to get the bigger tires on for instant
gratification for the time being. LOL
It's a slow project, but it's coming around. I am beginning to
understand now why they are called "JEEPS"

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