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how come new VW's appear to be junk?
On 2003-07-05 03:40:58 +0000, ztip guy said:
> Seems to be a few general problems with the A4-body-type VW's and VW's in > general in North America; namely, window actuator assemblies, relatively > poor instrumentation reliability, a dealership network considered to be of > lower quality, and a few other engine-specific issues such as intake > clogging/EGR clogging (TDI engines), oil consumption (2.0L engines), and > coilpacks (1.8T engines, V6 engines to a lesser extent). > > The much malaligned window actuator assemblies were formerly constructed out > failure-prone plastic, but these parts have been redesigned to use much > stronger metal components. The fix has been fitted to later-production > 2002's, and all 2003's, and is retrofittable, often free of charge, into > earlier models. > > Instrumentation issues consist mainly of, but not entirely limited to, MAF's > (Mass Airflow Sensors), and basically all the VW engine designs have issues. > Do not know if this has been fixed yet; there are options for > higher-reliabilty aftermarket replacements, however, these have not been > sanctioned by the factory. Lots, and lots of other instruments wired into > the ECU as well -- the sheer multitude used in VW's (as compared with other > makes) makes them a target for failure. > > The dealership network, it seems, hasn't invested properly in technician > training, and this is especially prevalent when dealing with some of the > more lesser-sold engine types (ie: TDI, W8, etc, etc.). Also, there seems > to be a reimbursement structure in place between VW Corporate and the > dealership network which actively encourages the dealers to cut corners when > performing warranty service, or to outright deny warranty service altogether > on deficiencies that are deemed to be minor. VW shouldn't be obligated to > replace wear and tear items that have been abused....but an old grandma > shouldn't stand accused of being abusive to her VW with 20k miles on it > because the brake pads were defective to begin with, hence their premature > failure. > > The other issues I've mentioned are specific to invididual types of engines. > The diesels clog up -- there is an aftermarket computer modification which > can make this a virtual non-issue. The oil consumption problems were real > and led to quite a bit of dissatisfaction -- a year old car shouldn't burn > any oil, nevermind a quart every thousand or two miles. The coilpacks were > outright defective, a source of huge frustration, but they were defective > models and VW has fixed them. > > One thing to keep in mind -- do you honestly believe you'd have less > problems had you purchased a low-end BMW, Mercedes or Audi? Probably not -- > they're manufactured with quite similar failure-prone parts. And if you > compare VW's with Japanese or American cars....you must consider that nearly > every VW sold is 'fully loaded' by American standards -- power windows, > built-in alarm system, all the bells and whistles.. So..much more stuff to > fail. > > One last thing -- don't let anyone, or any dealer tell you that VW's sell > for what the sticker or the website says. Such claims are totally > ridiculous; sales for VW aren't very good lately and though they will try > every salesman trick in the book, you shouldn't buy one unless you're paying > well under sticker. Well under. > > > wrote in message > ... >> I know you people will probbly take this personally...but i gotta >> point this out >> >> I have noticed nothing but people bitching and complaining about >> "check engine lights". My brother is shopping for a new car, and he >> looked into a book called "lemon-aid" . It points out that new VW's >> are nothing but junk. Everyone i know with a new VW, has nothing but >> problems with them. I am a loyal VW fan, but i think that VW are not >> what they used to be. And the prices are terrible. Anyone have any >> idea of when VW is gonna address all the problems with their current >> cars, and release a VW that doesnt have any problems? Very well written. Thank you. I own a 2008 R32, about $10,000 in repairs around the 100,000 mile mark. But am still driving it and I love it. |
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