Detroit Vs Japan

RJ proclaimed:
> L.W.(ßill) Hughes III > wrote:
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>> And what was wrong with these "Vega,
>
>
> A much shorter essay would be the list of what was right with the Vega.
>
> The car was a disaster from every dimension a car can be graded.

Actually much of what was wrong with the Vega had more to do with
excessive cost cutting, not the concept. The problems with stuff
falling off [e.g. carbs] were caused by intentionally leaving off
washers to save a few bucks. The concept of the aluminum engine
wasn't what was wrong, as Porsche used it very successfully on the
928, it was the crappily cheap cooling system that did much of the
damage. The Cosworth Vega was a good idea and a great car until
the damn GM bean counters turned it into a piece of overpriced
junk on wheels.

RJ proclaimed:

> L.W.(ßill) Hughes III > wrote:
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>> ONCE AGAIN, NOT ONE EXAMPLE!
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>
> In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the
> worst rust bucket I ever saw.
>
> Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer.

The champions of that era were the Jaguar XKE with a body structure
perfectly designed to catch moisture...and the 911 Porsche which on
a quiet night you could actually hear corrode.

Ruel Smith proclaimed:

> RJ wrote:
>
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>>In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the
>>worst rust bucket I ever saw.
>>
>>Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer
>
>
> Man... Those Japanese cars from that same era, especially the Datsuns,
> rusted pretty easily and pretty badly.

Yup. The big difference was the steel. You could cut an american
steel body with just an ordinary hardened steel bit in a Dremel. The
darned Datsun steel was so hard you needed carbide bits. That
hardness was not a good thing...made them very brittle and a true
bitch to undent.

Well, the 8-4-2 wasn't the best engine ever put into production. As
for the diesel, simply not strong enough bottom end for the crap most
drivers tried to do to them. Still not as dumb an idea as the early
911T that had an external oil filler...about where you'd expect to
find the gas tank filler.


L.W.(ßill) Hughes III proclaimed:

> I don't know of any "soft" camshafts made by anyone.
> GM, shouldn't have made the nineteen to one, from the standard
> passenger car's 350" small block. They failed because people including
> the tanker truck drivers kept put gasoline into them.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Stephen Cowell wrote:
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>>Here's two... soft '80s Olds camshafts, and the conversion
>>diesels. Plenty more where that came from... now you can't
>>say 'never' again!
>>__
>>Steve
>>.

Well witches are not in my Bible, First Presbyterian:
http://www.billhughes.com/dogtag.jpg What are you, Muslim? My wish is to
send all you and your kind, Al-Qa'ida Jihad to Allah
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O


Stephen Cowell wrote:
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> Perhaps not in version 31 (look at your link)... what about KJV?
>
> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...:18;&version=9
>
> Exodus 22:18?
>
> 18Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
>
> I assert that KJV would be included in 'any Bible'... so
> your assertion is proven false.... plenty more about
> witchcraft, etc. in there. Your brand of Bible says:
>
> 18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.
>
> Which I agree *completely* changes the meaning... I mean,
> 'sorceress'? Much more badass!
>
> > http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksea...&qs_version=31
>
> > And I am a Christian.
>
> What brand? Local franchise, or one of the Biggies? We'll
> assume you're not Coptic or Gnostic...
> __
> Steve
> .

LOL. Ruel, sounds Iranian, he'd fit right in San Diego.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
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> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year ill
> just consider the source and smile. another career you may consider is
> driving a cab. i hear they earn even more. :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Let me put gasoline into any diesel car of your choice and you see
what happens. Plus the people weren't use to changing the filter twice
as often, as their gas engines. You try and find a '80 Mercedes diesel
still on the road. Of course there are plenty of Ford gas engines:
http://www.billhughes.com/smog.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O


Stephen Cowell wrote:
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> "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I don't know of any "soft" camshafts made by anyone.
>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/groups... 2&qt_s=Search
>
> Eight hits...
>
> > GM, shouldn't have made the nineteen to one, from the standard
> > passenger car's 350" small block. They failed because people including
> > the tanker truck drivers kept put gasoline into them.
>
> Oh, now you're admitting a mistake by GM! I've helped you
> eliminate another 'never' from your vocabulary! You're welcome...
> you remember your assertion, right? It went like:
>
> > What reliability problems were there? People bashing American
> > products say that, but are never capable of giving us an example.
>
> I'm helping you learn!
> __
> Steve
> .

nah, the Alfa Sud beat both of them easily.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Lon" > wrote in message
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> RJ proclaimed:
>
> > L.W.(ßill) Hughes III > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> ONCE AGAIN, NOT ONE EXAMPLE!
> >
> >
> > In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the
> > worst rust bucket I ever saw.
> >
> > Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer.
>
> The champions of that era were the Jaguar XKE with a body structure
> perfectly designed to catch moisture...and the 911 Porsche which on
> a quiet night you could actually hear corrode.

blimey, what version are you using Bill ?

Exodus 22:18

American Standard Version "Thou shalt not suffer a sorceress to live."
The Answer: Put to death any woman who does evil magic.
Amplified Bible: You shall not allow a woman to live who practices sorcery.
Good News Version: Put to death any woman who practices magic.
James Moffatt Translation: You shall not allow any sorceress to live.
Jerusalem Bible: You shall not allow a sorceress to live.
King James Version: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
Living Bible: A sorceress shall be put to death.
Modern Language Bible: Allow no sorceress to live.
New American Bible: You shall not let a sorceress live.
New American Standard Bible: You shall not let a sorceress live.
New Century Version: Put to death any woman who does evil magic.
New International Version: Do not allow a sorceress to live.
New Living Translation: A sorceress must not be allowed to live.
New Revised Standard Version: You shall not permit a female sorcerer to
live.
New World Translation: You must not preserve a sorceress alive.
The Promise: Contemporary English Version: Death is the punishment for
witchcraft.
Revised Standard Version: You shall not permit a sorceress to live.
Revised English Bible: You must not allow a witch to live.


Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> Well witches are not in my Bible, First Presbyterian:
> http://www.billhughes.com/dogtag.jpg What are you, Muslim? My wish is to
> send all you and your kind, Al-Qa'ida Jihad to Allah
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>
> >
> > Exodus 22:18?

"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> LOL. Ruel, sounds Iranian, he'd fit right in San Diego.

i was actually trying to help the guy with a bit of friendly reality.
hopefully he'll figure it out eventually.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com