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"Best" shocks for both on/off road
John Davies wrote:
> I really like the Old Man Emus for all-around use. Never tried them on > a Wrangler tho..... The OME shocks on the Wrangler are just great, I tried them for a while. However the adjustability of the Rancho can't be beat. Also note the the comfort level depends more on the springs rather than the shocks. A.B. ShortWheelbase.com |
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John Davies wrote:
> I really like the Old Man Emus for all-around use. Never tried them on > a Wrangler tho..... The OME shocks on the Wrangler are just great, I tried them for a while. However the adjustability of the Rancho can't be beat. Also note the the comfort level depends more on the springs rather than the shocks. A.B. ShortWheelbase.com |
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A.B. wrote:
> Also note the the comfort level depends more on the springs rather than > the shocks. I certainly disagree with that. Shocks have far more impact on ride quality than springs do, within reason. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
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A.B. wrote:
> Also note the the comfort level depends more on the springs rather than > the shocks. I certainly disagree with that. Shocks have far more impact on ride quality than springs do, within reason. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
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Jerry Bransford wrote:
> A.B. wrote: > >> Also note the the comfort level depends more on the springs rather >> than the shocks. > > > I certainly disagree with that. Shocks have far more impact on ride > quality than springs do, within reason. Well, I've driven a YJ fitted with Rancho 9000 and the ride was horrible no matter which setting they were on since the YJ also had horrible Procomp leaf springs. Changing the springs to OME made a world of difference still with the same shocks. Remember the shocks are there just to control the bouncing movement of the springs and nothing else. Take off your shocks and drive around for a while, you'll notice you have the same comfort level as with the shocks fitted. The drive will be very bouncy mind you, which is why the shocks are there in the first place, to control the bounce. If the shocks valving are properly tuned for the weight of the vehicle and the driving style, then the shock will 'let' the springs absorb bumps and articulate well while still controlling spring bounce. If the shock valve setting is too hard the shock will fight the spring and will try to limit its movement and hence the harsh ride. However that doesn’t mean that a properly valved shock gives you a better ride, it means that a properly valved shock will not fight the spring which does almost all the work and will let it absorb bumps while controlling bounce and not hindering articulation. A.B. ShortWheelbase.com |
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Jerry Bransford wrote:
> A.B. wrote: > >> Also note the the comfort level depends more on the springs rather >> than the shocks. > > > I certainly disagree with that. Shocks have far more impact on ride > quality than springs do, within reason. Well, I've driven a YJ fitted with Rancho 9000 and the ride was horrible no matter which setting they were on since the YJ also had horrible Procomp leaf springs. Changing the springs to OME made a world of difference still with the same shocks. Remember the shocks are there just to control the bouncing movement of the springs and nothing else. Take off your shocks and drive around for a while, you'll notice you have the same comfort level as with the shocks fitted. The drive will be very bouncy mind you, which is why the shocks are there in the first place, to control the bounce. If the shocks valving are properly tuned for the weight of the vehicle and the driving style, then the shock will 'let' the springs absorb bumps and articulate well while still controlling spring bounce. If the shock valve setting is too hard the shock will fight the spring and will try to limit its movement and hence the harsh ride. However that doesn’t mean that a properly valved shock gives you a better ride, it means that a properly valved shock will not fight the spring which does almost all the work and will let it absorb bumps while controlling bounce and not hindering articulation. A.B. ShortWheelbase.com |
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> Well, I've driven a YJ fitted with Rancho 9000 and the ride was horrible
> no matter which setting they were on since the YJ also had horrible > Procomp leaf springs. Changing the springs to OME made a world of > difference still with the same shocks.> I agree, the springs make up the basic suspension dynamics, the shocks simply provide the fine tuning. For example, two years ago I installed a Skyjacker 2.5" kit on my '76 CJ5 restoration project. The vendor only had the "matching" Skyjacker Nitro (gas) shocks for the kit so I opted for them. The ride quality was dreadful. To see what was the basic cauise of the harsh ride I removed the shocks entirely and drove it around. The result was that the springs were far too stiff for the little 6 banger cJ5, the shocks just made the condition worse. The vendor swapped out the Nitros for a set of Hydro (standard) shocks and ther was just a small bit of improvement. After 12k miles the springs have sftened a bit, but still aren't to my liking. |
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> Well, I've driven a YJ fitted with Rancho 9000 and the ride was horrible
> no matter which setting they were on since the YJ also had horrible > Procomp leaf springs. Changing the springs to OME made a world of > difference still with the same shocks.> I agree, the springs make up the basic suspension dynamics, the shocks simply provide the fine tuning. For example, two years ago I installed a Skyjacker 2.5" kit on my '76 CJ5 restoration project. The vendor only had the "matching" Skyjacker Nitro (gas) shocks for the kit so I opted for them. The ride quality was dreadful. To see what was the basic cauise of the harsh ride I removed the shocks entirely and drove it around. The result was that the springs were far too stiff for the little 6 banger cJ5, the shocks just made the condition worse. The vendor swapped out the Nitros for a set of Hydro (standard) shocks and ther was just a small bit of improvement. After 12k miles the springs have sftened a bit, but still aren't to my liking. |
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