Where do we get the money to fix our highway bridges? - Drasticallyraise fines for highway crimes

Hit speeders with a $100 fine for each excessive mph and DUIs with
$10,000 fine and red light runners with $1000 fine. Make the criminals
pay, not the law-abiding citizens.

On Aug 4, 9:02 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
> wrote:
> Hit speeders with a $100 fine for each excessive mph and DUIs with
> $10,000 fine and red light runners with $1000 fine. Make the criminals
> pay, not the law-abiding citizens.

Between unpaid fines and the decline in violations, you wouldn't
collect enough money to fix a single overpass. Infrastructure takes
tens of billions of dollars.

The way to raise the money is to raise gasoline taxes, which haven't
been adjusted in more than a decade. It would also encourage
conservation. Sixty cents a gallon, multiplied by the four hundred
million gallons of gasoline per day we consume is two hundred and
forty million dollars per day or a bit over seventy billion dollars
per year. With one hundred million households in the U,S. that works
out to a "burden" of $2.40 per household per day, or less than the
cost of one gallon of gas.


Bo Raxo

Bo Raxo:

<< reply limited to m.t.r and r.a.d >>

> On Aug 4, 9:02 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
> > wrote:
> > Hit speeders with a $100 fine for each excessive mph and DUIs with
> > $10,000 fine and red light runners with $1000 fine. Make the criminals
> > pay, not the law-abiding citizens.
>
> Between unpaid fines and the decline in violations, you wouldn't
> collect enough money to fix a single overpass. Infrastructure takes
> tens of billions of dollars.

Not to mention the reduction in vehicles thot would be on the roads.
Implement a fine system like S&DDAM's proposal and I'll only drive when
absolutely necessary and do a hell of alot more bike riding.

> The way to raise the money is to raise gasoline taxes, which haven't
> been adjusted in more than a decade. It would also encourage
> conservation.

This is exactly what needs to be done.

> Sixty cents a gallon, multiplied by the four hundred
> million gallons of gasoline per day we consume is two hundred and
> forty million dollars per day or a bit over seventy billion dollars
> per year. With one hundred million households in the U,S. that works
> out to a "burden" of $2.40 per household per day, or less than the
> cost of one gallon of gas.

My idea for changing the gas tax would be to create a sliding tax scale
that keeps the price of gas at a minimum of $3.00 per gallon. If market
forces send the price of gas below $3.00, then the tax is raised to
bring the price to $3.00. If prices climb then the tax is reduced -
there is a minimum tax ( a rax floor, so to speak) of $1.00 per gallon,
however, so that the price of gas can go over $3.00, but there is still
the minimum tax. My only catch would be that the money collecred *MUST*
be used for highway/road and other transportation related improvements
(this would include funding for mass transit in places where it
currently does not exist). The way I see it, this plan would encourage
conservation (by way of high gas prices), fund some much needed road
repair/improvements and maybe, just maybe help get us off foreign oil.


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On Aug 5, 12:09 am, Bo Raxo > wrote:
> On Aug 4, 9:02 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
>
> > wrote:
> > Hit speeders with a $100 fine for each excessive mph and DUIs with
> > $10,000 fine and red light runners with $1000 fine. Make the criminals
> > pay, not the law-abiding citizens.
>
> Between unpaid fines and the decline in violations, you wouldn't
> collect enough money to fix a single overpass. Infrastructure takes
> tens of billions of dollars.
>
> The way to raise the money is to raise gasoline taxes, which haven't
> been adjusted in more than a decade.

The money is there. Minnesota is currently spending $500 million on a
new Twins ball park. There's also talk of a $1 new football stadium
for the Vikings.

I will NEVER support raising taxes of any kind when BS like this is
spent, then a second later the same people who spend it tell us
there's not enough money for real needs.

Larry Bud wrote:
>On Aug 5, 12:09 am, Bo Raxo > wrote:
>> On Aug 4, 9:02 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
>>
>> > wrote:
>> > Hit speeders with a $100 fine for each excessive mph and DUIs with
>> > $10,000 fine and red light runners with $1000 fine. Make the criminals
>> > pay, not the law-abiding citizens.
>>
>> Between unpaid fines and the decline in violations, you wouldn't
>> collect enough money to fix a single overpass. Infrastructure takes
>> tens of billions of dollars.
>>
>> The way to raise the money is to raise gasoline taxes, which haven't
>> been adjusted in more than a decade.
>
>The money is there. Minnesota is currently spending $500 million on a
>new Twins ball park. There's also talk of a $1 new football stadium
>for the Vikings.
>
>I will NEVER support raising taxes of any kind when BS like this is
>spent, then a second later the same people who spend it tell us
>there's not enough money for real needs.

Really. But you have to remember, for the "average" American, sports
is a CRITICAL component of their life. Yet another reason it doesn't
concern me when the "average" American loses their jobs to
`foreigners'.




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On Aug 5, 9:25 am, Larry Bud > wrote:

>
> The money is there. Minnesota is currently spending $500 million on a
> new Twins ball park. There's also talk of a $1 new football stadium
> for the Vikings.
>
> I will NEVER support raising taxes of any kind when BS like this is
> spent, then a second later the same people who spend it tell us
> there's not enough money for real needs.

Raising taxes is one thing, but raising fines assessed to criminals is
another. I have no problem with the latter, but then i'm not a
coddler.

On Aug 5, 5:16 am, necromancer
> wrote:
> Bo Raxo:
>
> << reply limited to m.t.r and r.a.d >>
>
> > On Aug 4, 9:02 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
> > > wrote:
> > > Hit speeders with a $100 fine for each excessive mph and DUIs with
> > > $10,000 fine and red light runners with $1000 fine. Make the criminals
> > > pay, not the law-abiding citizens.
>
> > Between unpaid fines and the decline in violations, you wouldn't
> > collect enough money to fix a single overpass. Infrastructure takes
> > tens of billions of dollars.
>
> Not to mention the reduction in vehicles thot would be on the roads.
> Implement a fine system like S&DDAM's proposal and I'll only drive when
> absolutely necessary and do a hell of alot more bike riding.

Don't you mean walking? Bicycles and motorists obey the same rules of
the road in every state and province.

On Aug 5, 8:25 am, Larry Bud > wrote:
> The money is there. Minnesota is currently spending $500 million on a
> new Twins ball park. There's also talk of a $1 new football stadium
> for the Vikings.
>
> I will NEVER support raising taxes of any kind when BS like this is
> spent, then a second later the same people who spend it tell us
> there's not enough money for real needs.

No kidding. Minnesota really screwed the pooch by building public
works that only benefit wealthy athletes, their managers and their
ball clubs. You wouldn't believe how much indignation and surprise
the MLB demonstrated when they offered Portland a team on the
condition they build a new stadium on public money. Portland's
reaction? "Are you assholes high? Get lost! If you want to move a
team here, use one of the existing stadiums or build it yourselves!
Y'all are millionaires!" "But every other city builds us a stadium!"
"Get bent! They all show a lack of common sense and we're not making
that mistake here!"

Portland remains the largest US city with no MLB team. Good riddance
to bad sportsmen.

On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:10:42 -0000, in misc.transport.road
Paul Johnson > wrote in
. com>:
>On Aug 5, 5:16 am, necromancer
> wrote:
>> Bo Raxo:
>>
>> << reply limited to m.t.r and r.a.d >>
>>
>> > On Aug 4, 9:02 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
>> > > wrote:
>> > > Hit speeders with a $100 fine for each excessive mph and DUIs with
>> > > $10,000 fine and red light runners with $1000 fine. Make the criminals
>> > > pay, not the law-abiding citizens.
>>
>> > Between unpaid fines and the decline in violations, you wouldn't
>> > collect enough money to fix a single overpass. Infrastructure takes
>> > tens of billions of dollars.
>>
>> Not to mention the reduction in vehicles thot would be on the roads.
>> Implement a fine system like S&DDAM's proposal and I'll only drive when
>> absolutely necessary and do a hell of alot more bike riding.
>
>Don't you mean walking? Bicycles and motorists obey the same rules of
>the road in every state and province.
>
If motorists obeyed the law the way bicylists (yes, I am a bicyclist and
it pains me to say this) do, there would be a quarter million deaths and
ten million maimings a year in automobile crashes.

"necromancer" > wrote in message
th.net...
> Bo Raxo:
>
> << reply limited to m.t.r and r.a.d >>
>
>> On Aug 4, 9:02 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
>> > wrote:
>> > Hit speeders with a $100 fine for each excessive mph and DUIs with
>> > $10,000 fine and red light runners with $1000 fine. Make the criminals
>> > pay, not the law-abiding citizens.
>>
>> Between unpaid fines and the decline in violations, you wouldn't
>> collect enough money to fix a single overpass. Infrastructure takes
>> tens of billions of dollars.
>
> Not to mention the reduction in vehicles thot would be on the roads.
> Implement a fine system like S&DDAM's proposal and I'll only drive when
> absolutely necessary and do a hell of alot more bike riding.
>
>> The way to raise the money is to raise gasoline taxes, which haven't
>> been adjusted in more than a decade. It would also encourage
>> conservation.
>
> This is exactly what needs to be done.
>
>> Sixty cents a gallon, multiplied by the four hundred
>> million gallons of gasoline per day we consume is two hundred and
>> forty million dollars per day or a bit over seventy billion dollars
>> per year. With one hundred million households in the U,S. that works
>> out to a "burden" of $2.40 per household per day, or less than the
>> cost of one gallon of gas.
>
> My idea for changing the gas tax would be to create a sliding tax scale
> that keeps the price of gas at a minimum of $3.00 per gallon. If market
> forces send the price of gas below $3.00, then the tax is raised to
> bring the price to $3.00. If prices climb then the tax is reduced -
> there is a minimum tax ( a rax floor, so to speak) of $1.00 per gallon,
> however, so that the price of gas can go over $3.00, but there is still
> the minimum tax. My only catch would be that the money collecred *MUST*
> be used for highway/road and other transportation related improvements
> (this would include funding for mass transit in places where it
> currently does not exist). The way I see it, this plan would encourage
> conservation (by way of high gas prices), fund some much needed road
> repair/improvements and maybe, just maybe help get us off foreign oil.

I've been for this for years. The gas tax is the solution for equitable
transportation funding. I also think privatizing highways is a neat idea
(but not other roads).