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Old September 6th 05, 02:09 AM
Bret Ludwig
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Default Ya ready for diesel yet?

It's a matter of time now! Aside from a few stubborn goofs like =DFill,
y'all are going to start thinking diesel pretty soon. Of course when
the craze starts, the price of suitable engines is going to
skyrocket...too bad I have a few in my garage, isn't it?

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Old September 6th 05, 02:45 AM
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Bret Ludwig wrote:

> It's a matter of time now! Aside from a few stubborn goofs like ßill,
> y'all are going to start thinking diesel pretty soon. Of course when
> the craze starts, the price of suitable engines is going to
> skyrocket...too bad I have a few in my garage, isn't it?
>


Every time gas prices skyrocket, people start smoking the diesel pipe.
Too bad it's not a real solution.

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Old September 6th 05, 02:58 AM
Bret Ludwig
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twaldron wrote:
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> > It's a matter of time now! Aside from a few stubborn goofs like =DFill,
> > y'all are going to start thinking diesel pretty soon. Of course when
> > the craze starts, the price of suitable engines is going to
> > skyrocket...too bad I have a few in my garage, isn't it?
> >

>
> Every time gas prices skyrocket, people start smoking the diesel pipe.
> Too bad it's not a real solution.
>



It works pretty well for me. 30% better mileage on 15% cheaper fuel
(as of right now) with torque out the butt and no electronics....yeah,
total horsepower is lower, but I'm not drag racing a 4WD.

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Old September 6th 05, 03:55 AM
L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
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I will have to call you a liar. Gasoline is the cheapest most
powerful energy we may use in a car. Just look how you had to increase
the size of your jets.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> It works pretty well for me. 30% better mileage on 15% cheaper fuel
> (as of right now) with torque out the butt and no electronics....yeah,
> total horsepower is lower, but I'm not drag racing a 4WD.

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Old September 6th 05, 11:29 PM
Bret Ludwig
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L=2EW. Hughes III (=DFill) wrote:
> I will have to call you a liar. Gasoline is the cheapest most
> powerful energy we may use in a car. Just look how you had to increase
> the size of your jets.
> God Bless America, =DFill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>


I will have to call you insane as usual, because diesels have no jets
or carburetors. All diesels have high pressure timed mechanical or
electromechanical fuel injection.

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Old September 7th 05, 01:55 AM
L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
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What do you think is on the end of an injector? It is metered
orifice same as a jet at end of the solenoid or mechanical pump. Trucker
slang this line is metered by a button. In this example you may see the
jet: #8, piston: #13, inlet fuel line: # 7, solenoid: #6:
http://www.tpub.com/content/dieselge...84-24P_143.htm
It's not complicated. I hope you are learning something along with
frustrating me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Bert Ludwig wrote:
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> I will have to call you insane as usual, because diesels have no jets
> or carburetors. All diesels have high pressure timed mechanical or
> electromechanical fuel injection.

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Old September 6th 05, 04:50 AM
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"If" the diesel craze ever did take of, you'd be crying the blues as prices rose
with demand.

And you'd still have to live with the smell. LOL



In message .com>, "Bret
Ludwig" wrote:

>
>twaldron wrote:
>> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>> > It's a matter of time now! Aside from a few stubborn goofs like ßill,
>> > y'all are going to start thinking diesel pretty soon. Of course when
>> > the craze starts, the price of suitable engines is going to
>> > skyrocket...too bad I have a few in my garage, isn't it?
>> >

>>
>> Every time gas prices skyrocket, people start smoking the diesel pipe.
>> Too bad it's not a real solution.
>>

>
>
> It works pretty well for me. 30% better mileage on 15% cheaper fuel
>(as of right now) with torque out the butt and no electronics....yeah,
>total horsepower is lower, but I'm not drag racing a 4WD.

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Old September 6th 05, 04:58 AM
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bllsht did pass the time by typing:
> "If" the diesel craze ever did take of, you'd be crying the blues as prices
> rose with demand.
>
> And you'd still have to live with the smell. LOL


Like most of Europe where diesel is the #1 type of fuel sold?

hint, it's not that bad >if< properly refined. OF course
they do pay out the ass for it.

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Old September 6th 05, 05:19 AM
L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
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Look how dirty their homes are, then try to tell me it's cleaner.
http://www.contactpakistan.com/Commu.../article22.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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DougW wrote:
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> Like most of Europe where diesel is the #1 type of fuel sold?
>
> hint, it's not that bad >if< properly refined. OF course
> they do pay out the ass for it.
>
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Old September 9th 05, 02:56 PM
SoK66
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> It works pretty well for me. 30% better mileage on 15% cheaper fuel (as of
> right now) with torque out the butt and no electronics....yeah, total
> horsepower is lower, but I'm not drag racing a 4WD.<


While diesels may generally get better mileage, it's not that simple. It
depends upon what vehicle you're talking about.
I have an '04 Ford Super Duty 6.0 PowerStroke, gets about 16.5 city, 21
highway. Towing the Jeep & trailer, a task for which it is absolutely
fantastic, it gets 12-13 mpg.
(A comparable V10 Triton gets around 10 city, 14 highway, towing will likely
get around 6-8.) Overall, not bad, but tthe PowerStroke is certainly no fuel
miser.

Even more to consider when looking at diesels, all of them carry a pricing
disadvatage. The PowerStroke option is nearly $5,000, and if you throw in
the 4 speed Torqshift trans, the only automatic option, that's another
$1,500. Best calculation, takes around 300,000 miles to break even vs. a
gasoline alternative.

As for a diesel fuel price advantage, that's total horse ****. Around here
diesel has been selling higher than regular for more than two years now, and
is getting set to do it's annual winter price runup, where it will end up
priced between regular and premium. The refiners excuse being that it
competes with home heating oil for the idiot Yankees who, despite being
warned for years, haven't converted to gas or electric heat.


 




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