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Old September 20th 07, 12:32 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled
CamLowes
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Not to pontificate, but in essence that is the problem:
"some pretty out of touch decisions."

US Automakers, like the US itself, should've taken the hint after something
called the "Arab Oil Embargo" and smartened up.
They didn't, the goverment didn't and most importantly, "we" didn't. The
Dodge/Plymoth- Omni / Horizon, K-car, Pacer, Pinto and other stop gap models
built by the "Big 3" were quickly replaced by the mini van, SUV and of
course the "Macho Package Dodge Dakota 4x4", with optional gun rack,
trailer-towing package, beer refrigerator and let's not forget our old
friend from the 60's- the Hemi. (Oh yeah, and of course the ever present
American flag and Marine Corp / NRA / Harley sticker.)

We getting exactly what we deserve, except now along with money were paying
a price literally with our children's blood.
It's not really "low class" as much as it's Darwinism, education, and
economics at work in it's most brutal form.

(sorry "griff" i accidentally sent this to u on the first post)


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Old September 20th 07, 02:50 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled
Jim Behning[_1_]
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:32:06 -0400, "CamLowes" >
wrote:

>Not to pontificate, but in essence that is the problem:
>"some pretty out of touch decisions."
>
>US Automakers, like the US itself, should've taken the hint after something
>called the "Arab Oil Embargo" and smartened up.
>They didn't, the goverment didn't and most importantly, "we" didn't. The
>Dodge/Plymoth- Omni / Horizon, K-car, Pacer, Pinto and other stop gap models
>built by the "Big 3" were quickly replaced by the mini van, SUV and of
>course the "Macho Package Dodge Dakota 4x4", with optional gun rack,
>trailer-towing package, beer refrigerator and let's not forget our old
>friend from the 60's- the Hemi. (Oh yeah, and of course the ever present
>American flag and Marine Corp / NRA / Harley sticker.)
>
>We getting exactly what we deserve, except now along with money were paying
>a price literally with our children's blood.
>It's not really "low class" as much as it's Darwinism, education, and
>economics at work in it's most brutal form.
>
>(sorry "griff" i accidentally sent this to u on the first post)
>

To some degree manufacturers make what they think will sell the best.
I do not need a 300 hp diesel engine to tow a 5-7,000 pound trailer.
If I was buying a new truck I have no practical diesel option. I think
only one friend has a redneck truck with a Dodge V8. Now you know that
Flowmaster might lose a lot of sales f they stopped putting V8s in
trucks.

Too many people that think they need crazy fast acceleration they
never use.
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Old September 20th 07, 04:27 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled
Dave[_39_]
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"CamLowes" > wrote in message
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> Not to pontificate, but in essence that is the problem:
> "some pretty out of touch decisions."
>
> US Automakers, like the US itself, should've taken the hint after
> something
> called the "Arab Oil Embargo" and smartened up.
> They didn't, the goverment didn't and most importantly, "we" didn't. The
> Dodge/Plymoth- Omni / Horizon, K-car, Pacer, Pinto and other stop gap
> models
> built by the "Big 3" were quickly replaced by the mini van, SUV and of
> course the "Macho Package Dodge Dakota 4x4", with optional gun rack,
> trailer-towing package, beer refrigerator and let's not forget our old
> friend from the 60's- the Hemi. (Oh yeah, and of course the ever present
> American flag and Marine Corp / NRA / Harley sticker.)
>
> We getting exactly what we deserve, except now along with money were
> paying
> a price literally with our children's blood.
> It's not really "low class" as much as it's Darwinism, education, and
> economics at work in it's most brutal form.
>
> (sorry "griff" i accidentally sent this to u on the first post)
>


Consumer selection decisions based on safety (IE bigger is safer mindset),
and fashionable for SUVs. The Ford Pinto died a long time before any real
SUV showed its face.

There's nothing wrong with the hemispherical head design used by Chrysler.
The engine displacement in conjunction with that design has been always
excessive for realistic street use.

What's going on now is that automakers have tweaked motors substantially,
but have not downsized the engine they tweaked. More power, slightly better
mpg. What is the obvious solution for more mpg without the previous
increase in power? Automakers don't want to have to re-engineer the
manufacture of smaller engines due to the cost in redo in manufacturing
costs they say. Basically, they work with a known product/engine instead of
something smaller to begin with. So, we pay for their faults.
Dave


 




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